I'm aginst outright racing around ppl. I'm gulity of the occasional 0-60 burst in front of a ricer or whatever. But I won't "race" on the street anymore. I have a wife/kid to take care of.

 

I'm aginst outright racing around ppl. I'm gulity of the occasional 0-60 burst in front of a ricer or whatever. But I won't "race" on the street anymore. I have a wife/kid to take care of.

Yeah, I do that... but it's a short burst and if there's traffic, it's no burst.

 

I'm with you on this Wicked - although I'm surprised you'd start a controversial thread

Speed kills. I'm not being self-righteous b/c I've done my share so stupid stuff - I've also cut people out of cars after they did stupid things - or like you pointed out, were minding their own business and got hit by someone doing something stupid.

 

A girl was killed where I grew up much like the last clip. Two idiots racing through a downtown. One racer was 20ish, the other was 40ish. Girl was innocent bystander. The 40 year old went to his shop after the race and stripped his car of all race gear to try to hide that he was involved. Ended up losing his business and serving time.

Street racing is stupid. Period.

 

I'll say it i'm young adn do love speed. However when it comes to heavey traffic speed is the last thing on my mind. If you really feel the need to race on a track or go somewhere, where the public won't be involved. I remember when i was in victoria we were driving through a busey part of the city and these 3 rice racers came ripping in and out of traffic. :slap:

 

its been real hard on me too. Forget the death of the four year old that happened when i was a teen for just a sec. Lets just say i find it very very hard to control my temper when people are playing around with me or others and i've got my son in the backseat singing blues clues. The things i'd do to those people if he wasnt lookin

 

Yeah, I'm with you there. I've had a few knuckle draggers attempt to goad me into racing when my kids have been in the back. Idiots.

Racing on the street should have comparable time to driving drunk if you're caught. There are PLENTY of tracks available and they've even got staff to clean up the goo that's left when you smack your fancy new car into the wall.

Cheers,

 

I can't agree more. Most of you know where I work and what I do for a living, so I wont get into that. It's sad to see so many young lives trashed. However, I will NEVER work traffic, because I am not a hypocrite. I love burning any little piece of **** ricer that wants to test an SRT8.
A double standard, I guess...

 

There is a time and a place to drag race. No need to be doing it on the street. Most drag strips have a friday night street race or a grudge run night or something that if you want to race someone thats the place to do it.
People will always drag race on the street. Lets just hope nothing happens to our loved ones or people we know. Be safe and just take a second and think before you mash the loud pedal on a busy highway or a city street, it could save you and others alot of heart ache. Peace.....

 

People will always drag race on the street. Lets just hope nothing happens to our loved ones or people we know.

This is my biggest fear. Usually on Friday and Saturday nights I can hear crotch rockets and ricers hauling a$$ on the major street just a 1/2 mile from my house. Cars are always speeding up and down my street just because it one of a few without big speed bumps. But I will say this here and now. If some street racing idiot kills someone I love, they better die too or be on the next rocket off this planet, because I WILL come after them. No remorse.

The problem with most street racers is that there is the attitude that "nothing bad will ever happen to me." Give me a break.

 

99% of my racing is on a track. Once in a great while I will run someone from 0 to 60
if the roads are clear.

 

I'm 41 years old. I'm a licensed skydiver and been doing it for about 20 years. I lost about 10 friends to rig malfunctions and other airplane incidents.

I still skydive.

I've been riding and racing crotch rockets since 1989. I've been killed once and in the hospital many times. The doctors swore I'd never function again.

I still ride, fast.

Deaths of others only makes me love that danger even more. To me, there is a huge thrill in placing my life in the hands of death. It makes me feel alive to defy death.

Is it only a matter of time? Sure.

But, isn't it only a matter of time until I die from old age or other complications? You BET!

I'm only going to live once and, by God, it's going to be a great life full of no fear of anything.

Stopping one method of people dying for no reason will only create another. It's impossible to stop it, or slow it down. It's mother nature controlling the ecological carrying capacity. You might think "well there's no reason for innocent children to die like that", but I believe you're wrong. Stop them from dying one way, and mother nature will kill them in another way.

 

I'm 41 years old. I'm a licensed skydiver and been doing it for about 20 years. I lost about 10 friends to rig malfunctions and other airplane incidents.

I still skydive.

I've been riding and racing crotch rockets since 1989. I've been killed once and in the hospital many times. The doctors swore I'd never function again.

I still ride, fast.

Deaths of others only makes me love that danger even more. To me, there is a huge thrill in placing my life in the hands of death. It makes me feel alive to defy death.

Is it only a matter of time? Sure.

But, isn't it only a matter of time until I die from old age or other complications? You BET!

I'm only going to live once and, by God, it's going to be a great life full of no fear of anything.

Damn....you are HARD :bowdown:

I'm guilty of street racing for money...but as of recently i let it go after hearing of friends getting probation, jail time, etc....

Scared me outta it!

Time to hit up the strips!

 

ill race buddies to the speed limit...but thats about it. I have a 3.5, im not gonna go around lookin to race n/e thing.

 

And I think most people can except that you enjoy living on the edge, it is a free country.
I personally have no issue with adrenaline junkies living their life, but when it comes to public streets, your putting others at risk because of your desire to go fast.
That is where people have a problem.
If some kid wants to hit the track or an abandoned road and kill themselves for a rush, there is not much anyone can say. But when they do it on a crowded street it is socially unacceptable and should be condemned.

 

If 100 people are saved from getting hit by drunk divers and dying, 100 people will die in another way.

What I'm saying is you can't stop death. Only the method of which people die will change. But, the end result will be the same.

 

Your right, but I hope to enjoy what I have left of my life with my family and friends and die of old age without some jackass without any consideration for other peoples plans or lives killing us off prematurely. By your logic Thumper we might as well just push the button and burn ourselves up cause, WHAT THE HELL, WE'RE ALL JUST GONNA DIE ANYWAY! :icon_mad::slap::rocket:

 

I'll admit I race every now and then but nothing like that.... Some people think their cars can handle high speeds and going around turns or flying through traffic but 99% of the time they're wrong and this is what happens.... I only race from a stop light(me and the guy are 1st in line and it's a straight road ahead with a pretty high speed limit) or I might gun it ever now and then when I jump on the interstate and there's no cars..... A car is kind of like a loaded gun.... it's okay when you have control of it but when you become stupid and careless bad things happen...

 

I can;t beleive I am doing this but....

Ease up on thumper guys.

His post didn;t outright support street racing. Now he may support it, but his post were more about living on the edge. Not that he street races.

Now he could jump in and make this support of him fall apart, but from what I read in his post he is just that he has a different view on life and how to live it.,....not a support of street racing.

Thumper....its your turn.

 

Fate will get you, and if I decide to tempt Fate I make sure I impact other people as little as possible if at all. I don't want other people doing it for me just so they can have a thrill. If your gonna put my life at risk for your fun you better hope I die cause if I don't...

 

Fate will get you, and if I decide to tempt Fate I make sure I impact other people as little as possible if at all. I don't want other people doing it for me just so they can have a thrill. If your gonna put my life at risk for your fun you better hope I die cause if I don't...

It comes down to the right time and place, a busy freeway or crowded parking lot is NOT the right place. Go to the track or find an empty stretch of road. If I kill myself, No Foul, If I kill someone else then I hope there is a hell cause I should end up there.

 

I also want to point out that when I say "YOU" in my posts I'm not speaking to anyone Specific, Just a generalization, I luv:SM120: everone on this forum

 

Not sure the we all are going to die someday philosophy makes driving wreckless on public streets work for me.
But hey to each their own
You wont stop people from doing it, any more than you will change the fact that most find it wrong
Speed like any risky behavior can be accomplished in a safer more acceptable manner than on a public street

 

I am guessing the pro street racing crowd will find this a tough thread LOL

 

Not at all. It is a very good thread.\\

I race on the streets and love it. But I don't race it nearly as much as I did when I was young. I also make sure there are no other cars around.

But, it is good that people are calling out unsafe practices.

Yes, street racing is not even close to being as big a crime as drunk driving but we still can reduce the deaths.

The problem with the track is you have to wait and arrange stuff - it is like planned sex versus on the spot!

Plus, the track is only a 1/4 mile. These cars are just warming up at that point. The car is a beast from 70 to 130

But my racing days are almost done.

 

With tracks having regular street legal nights, there really is no excuse for racing on the streets. I'm guilty of the occassional fast run up to the speed limit, but I'll ease off after that.

One thing, though, at a recent street legal race in San Diego, the police were sitting around outside the gates and pulling people over, popping hoods and ticketing for mods. Situations like that only force street racing to the streets that John Q Public is driving on. I think the police need to be intelligent about the big picture when they are doing their job.

 

thats the worst thing the cops could ever do. are they remedial or something?

when i went to mopar day i dident see a cop anywhere. i do think cps should hang out outside sows/races to keep ppl from taking the adrenaline with them.

 

I love the controversy these threads stir up. Do I personally advocate street racing..........no, I advocate against it mostly. However can I say I am not guilty of engaging in it......no, otherwise I would be a liar. I race at the strip as pretty well every other friday night during the summer months is a street legal night. I also drive somewhat at a professional level as my job involves a company truck and thousands of miles every year. I also hold a Class 1 license ( same as Class A in the states) and have a clean record and cheap insurance.

Can I say however I have never been nudged into a street race with my SRT.......no I can't. I really only have raced out on open highways and because of one experience I got away with will never race in an urban environment again( no one was hurt or even endangered in that case). I pretty well never race anyone on the road but I do open the car up and l;et her go occasionally. If I didn't want to do that I wouldn't have bought an SRT8 to begin with. Maybe that coupled with the fact I drive in a truck monitored by a GPS that I can't exceed 75 mph for more than 30 seconds without getting bothered has something to do with that too.

I do speed but keep it in check with what I know I can get away with, and with a radar detector. Hence why I have a clean driving record.

How many collisions have I been involved in..........2........one my fault and one not. Were either speed related......nope. I rearended a car when I was 16 years old, not paying attention. The second one was a guy trying to run a red light. I have not been involved in any traffic incidents since 2003 and try to keep it that way. Then again I also live out in the sticks and not in a large city either. That also makes a difference as I am not a daily city street commuter. I only really see Edmonton for pleasure use only.

What I like is the righteous that spout off but then if asked the hard questions turn out to be hypocrites. Why did you buy a 350 hp or a 425 hp car if you never want to use it. Kind of pointless isn't it. If you go out and rug it on a highway by yourself even up to the speed limit you are not being any better. Less of a chance of danger.....yes.........but you can still lose control and "get dead" at 65 mph as well. The forces are exponential as the speed increases but it's still very possible none the less. I praise those that have the self control to never speed and only track race, if that is the truth, I admit you are a better man than I.

 

I think Thumpers ideals would be a bit different if he had children. I believe he doesn't (and I could be wrong).

It all sounds justifiable until you think about some douchebag killing your child.

Some of the comments from the videos:

"DNALI
the broad at 1:40 sec need to shut the **** up. like we know wat would have happend if there was people in the way sherlock. keep you mouth closed.

blackevomr69
exactly i was thinking the same thing. what a dumb ****. ****, if there was a kid in their way , then we need to talk about how parents should atually watch their ****ing kids for once rather than leting them run around the streets."

Nothing like making the victim the perpetrator.


My thoughts go more along the lines of this guy:




" What is funny is when the street racers come to the track, and get crushed. They think they know how to drive. Then they learn that the people who know what they are doing are at the track. If you street race, then I personally wish you the worst."



I'm not against getting on it once in a while. I'm against putting innocent lives in danger.

Racing in an urban setting or on a filled highway is just plain ignorant.

 

so if I understand your last paragraph, people who oppose street racing are hypocrites if the every exceed the speed limit?
just looking for clarification of the statement not judging it

What I like is the righteous that spout off but then if asked the hard questions turn out to be hypocrites. Why did you buy a 350 hp or a 425 hp car if you never want to use it. Kind of pointless isn't it. If you go out and rug it on a highway by yourself even up to the speed limit you are not being any better. Less of a chance of danger.....yes.........but you can still lose control and "get dead" at 65 mph as well. The forces are exponential as the speed increases but it's still very possible none the less. I praise those that have the self control to never speed and only track race, if that is the truth, I admit you are a better man than I.

 

That's cool, no problem. I look at it this way. If you drive along at 80 mph on an open highway where the posted speed limit is 65 mph does that automatically make you safer than 2 vehicles that accelerate to that speed and then let off. No, not really. You could drop your coffee and lose control, miss that kid that isn't looking, or swerve to miss a small animal.

I of course will be countered by the acceleration factor and maybe that is key. Generally two people that are racing will reach that speed faster and did it by running the car as hard as it can go. Another driver though that is just doing 80 mph may slowly accelerate to that speed thus eliminating the slip and slide danger acceleration factor. Either way though, you are still breaking a law and still could lose control. The chances with street racing are much higher as you get tunnel vision much like a police officer in a pursuit usually does. Adrenaline does that. But complacancy at 80 mph on the highway is nearly as dangerous. You start to drift off and not totally pay attention because of distraction or boredom or whatever. There are a pile more people killed every year from lack of paying attention behind the wheel than there ever is from racing. Does that make racing ok...........no, most certainly not. However does that make the general complacent speeder ok instead.......no. Even at the limit it's dangerous. We had a slogan from the police that was "Don't fool yourself, speed kills". No, more accurately it's "Don't fool yourself, complacency kills" I would rather an attentive driver at 90 mph over the average driver at 65 mph.

 

good thread... i know i posted two kill threads a while ago but really drive like grandpa 90% of the time... the other 10% is to hear what i paid for... the HEMI ROAR:rocker:

 

I live my life asking the question "what could go wrong?" I try to anticipate and prevent "accidents". Maybe it's because I'm an IT guy working with customers' corporate data all day long. I'm not a chicken but I prefer calculated, reasonable risks.

Street racing isn't a good idea, period. There are too many variables that can't be predicted.

I applaud you for starting this thread, wicked. It's not a popular viewpoint in particular. I just want you to know that you and your kid never have to worry about their safety from me.

"Yeah, it's got a Hemi... but I'm in control."

 

"Yeah, it's got a Hemi... but I'm in control."

:clap::beerchug:

 

yeah, you don't want to end up like this guy