Super Charger........nuff said, my bro's will back me up with the technical info....:driving:

 

Yep on the supercharger, 6LBS boost max.....480-500 rwhp...good to go!!!

 

zactly... supacharga:rocker:

 

Not sure why guys are saying to go with a supercharger, it really depends on your goals. Off the bat though, I would say a twin turbo has a hell of a lot more potential up side. On a stock ride though, a twin turbo may not be necessary as the vehicle has enough torque to get you going til boost is built.

 

Thanx for the quick response out there..His Motor is stock all he's put on is a performance exhaust, intake, and the predetor chip...other than that bone stock srt8.
If anyone else has any opinions on this It would be a big help thanx

 

I'd say supercharger cause it's power on demand rather than waiting on a Turbo(s) to spool up and then give you boost.

 

The exact reason i was gunna say super charger ...theres a difference between power and raw power ...all you muscle heads will back that up haha

 

What KCC said and besides the stock engine can't handle a ton of boost without turning into a ticking bomb anyway. :blowingup:

 

x2 - Can't handle the boost

 

I've read a lot of articles, all saying that both is good, as long as you get boost. Here's a link to some dynos on sts turbos. Pretty good numbers.

http://ststurbo.com/dodge_chrysler_lx

If you can get a system designed right, you won't have any lag. I've been talking to a few guys that are looking at getting turbos over SCs and I've been leaning in that direction myself.

Here's another site where the guy actually makes them specifically for MOPAR. His Grand Cherokee has very nice numbers:

http://www.nctsllc.com/

I hope this helps as far as turbos go. SCs are good, I wanted one, but I've really been looking into both so I can make the right decision.

 

I think for most folks especially with a stock motor the S/C option is the easiest bolt on and go F/I mod. Turbo's are great especially if you are planning on forging and upping the boost later. If you want to go Turbo IMo the best system we have seen to date for the Hemi is the Hellion Twin Turbo...if I wen't Turbo that would be my choice bar none!

More info here...
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118499&highlight=hellion

I do think for most folks a Vortech, or Procharger is the best bet bang for the buck, ease of tuning, and ease of installation.

To the OP feel free to shoot me a PM or give us a call if you have any questions we carry and have installed all the major Supercharger systems for the Hemi and can answer your questions based on first hand knowledge and point you in the direction of what would be best for your goals.

 

Most turbos are going to be more "economical" since they run off waste gas, instead of using mechanics to make power.
Why not do a twin charged setup Turbo AND Supercharger. Supercharger gets ya off the line and spools the turbo, then the turbo keeps ya goin after the supercharger stops building boost.

 

Don't forget a transmission upgrade whichever way you choose. The turbo set up will probably be more expensive and more difficult.

 

LOL thank you Deuuuce !... oh yes... that another headache all together..

With Twin Turbos located UP FRONT... it is a MESS to do anything within the engine bay... with all the plumbing that is associated with it everything must be dropped out to get to it.

So engine work becomes a quite a headache\chore.

 

ncts makes nice stuff give Tim a call! Twins are not needed a single will provide enough boost. Stock engines cant handle much anyway. Run a stall converter and lag is not an issue 4psi off the line. More torque with turbos than superchargers but turbos are more expensive and more difficult to tune. Tim has an engine management system that is better for forced induction than cmr tunes

 

Thanx again to all that are replying...Tons of Great Information
We just got done talking about what he would like to do..But a few Questions Came up..
If we Were to Install a supercharger/Procharger we have heard that if the belt Breaks during driving there is a huge chance it will mess your engine up? Also we have heard that kenne bell supercharger is a great way to up the hp anyone know anything about this kind of supercharger? Also if it comes to getting a turbo will you always have turbo lag or is there a way to reduce it? or is it all on how you tune it?

Oh and the Twin turbo system wont be going near the engine if we decide to go with turbos it will be towards the end of the Exhaust Thanx

Thanks To all that have posted on my Thread

 

a super charger is more practical and classic and if your opinion is like mine your getting more raw power from the super charger ...turbos require other things in order for them to work properly.

 

for our cars supercharger is the way to go...the engine bay is tight enough as it is to run intercooler piping and then you have to figure out where to mount the intercooler. You have to run an intercooler with a turbo set-up or you will have extreme detonation.

 

NOT TRUE! no intercooler needed methanol injection takes place of the cooler and is a more efficient way of cooling

 

Use less than 1 gallon between oil changes unless running at the track a lot cost only 1.19 methanol is a great choice for all forced induction set ups. its only used over 2psi boost and it reduces egts 400+degrees hence reducing combustion temps reducing detonation.

 

For most of us we don't live at the track so a supercharger will do just fine. With those that have a lot of money and want to build 1,000+ rwhp beasts then a twin turbo setup will be the way to go. You will have to go with forged internals so the boost doesn't blow the block to pieces.

For the majority that have our Chargers as daily drivers a supercharger will do just fine - otherwise you're just splitting hairs.

 

Sorry wife's car 7 1/2 psi turbocharged bone stock internal 5.7 driven daily with 2 car seats in the back & double stroller in the trunk running high 12's and a personal best 111mph on 22 inch street tires in full street trim no slicks and over 2 second 60's hoping for better ET with drag radials

 

Single turbo works on the street

 

Twin turbos function the same as a single turbo it all in the sizing of the turbo. Twin turbos just sound cool. Sizing is the key with turbos too big of one = tons of lag or more boost than you could ever use Too small you run out of boost up stairs. Properly sized they provide boost to optimize the power band

 

You brought out some good points and I follow what your saying. Reason some folks go the Twin Turbo route is that ... believe it or not its not as expensive as you may think. Twin Turbos were chosen to lessen the lag ( though it is STILL there).... also to produce power QUICKER... and produce boost at a lower RPM. Again some of us still have street driven cars... and not a built for the Track monster.

I started driving Turbo's sometime ago in the street ... and with the same amout of boost ... but sure not the power. 1988 Chrysler Conquest TSI.... which had a small turbo.. again for lowering of lag time... thing was a inline 4 making 200 hp at the most...

 

dont go sts, I had that turbo for 5 months and sold that sh!t luckly. BIGGEST waste of $8K / mistake of my whole life.

 

for those of you talking about turbo lag get out of the 80's. turbo technology has come a long ways and you can easily have a 500-800hp car with very very little lag if any noticeable at all.

 

Pretty true but take a look at the 5mph-60mph roll-on times of turbo cars vs. N/A cars. The STi, Evo etc. still fall a little flat.

Now going from a roll at 60mph, that's a different story but a lot of guys will still brake boost...

 

im going to have to say alot of you guys are misinformed on turboing etc, lag? like mentioned earlier this isnt the 80's guys, there's billet ballbearing turbo's that spool almost instantly. Turbo's are always better at the track i find as well because your not making all that low raw power right out of the whole and having traction issues, a turbo set up is no harder to tune then a s/c set up is either, its a no brainer even on a daily driver, no whining, no belt slippage, and better fuel economy and you have the veratility to change how much power you make with the push of a buttom,no silly pulley changes.

 

I disagree at least with a tuning & I have a turbo on my 5.7 charger. The lx platform is one of the most difficult vehicles to properly tune regardless of forced induction method. Believe me I have drove some supercharged lx's that ran horrible i have tried some cmr tunes that suck some not so bad but none that ran right. A turbos boost is not as predictable as supercharger which adds another variable making tuning for supercharger simpler but, the lx pcm cannot compensate for boost. All forced induction lx's really need a different or add on engine management system. If they didn't we would not see all the engine failures on forced induction applications.

 

supercharger if you want to brag numbers, turbo if you want real world performance gain, turbo you get max boost from a very early point in rpms, supercharger looks good on paper from max dyno output but it is gradual increase of power, they did a comparison on youtube on drag strip i belive and it was hands down turbo.... either way if you want to take it past 5-6 lbs you are talking rebuild forged...

 

I'd say supercharger also

 

Hellion twins

I have a Hellion twin kit on my Challenger and it is bad ass! No lag at all! It came with a tune and drives great. Twin turbo out run superchargers every time. Check out this video, stock motor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqjmArvoIDs&feature=player_embedded

610 hp!

Just my 2 cents

 

I read that Andy made 900 HP at the tire with 15 lbs!

 

like most of you are saying... turbos are way more efficient cuz you can use a turbo set up with 5 lbs a boost that will give uthe same results or better than a s/c with 8 lbs of boost but its way more complicated to fabricate everything for the turbo then it is for the s/c plus there IS definitely lag whether its for just a couple 100ths of a second or not but you can get passed that by using a shot of nitrous to spool them the cons of this are that the amount of power your going to be exerting on ur engine is a lot and you would have to forge everything and replace rear end and plus tranny issues so ull also need upgrade there also even with a big kenne bell u could have to do all this also unless u stay with low boost thats why its more economically efficient to use a procharger or vortec or something thats not going to let u use 23 lbs and blow ur car up

 

You dont have to have 23 lbs of boost with a turbo. You put the boost wherever you want. 5, 6, 10 etc. The is only lag if you have a weak 4 cyl. There is no lag with a 6.1 l hemi. The kit bolts on with no fabricating.

Just my 2 cents. Love my twin turbos!