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As an alignment guy (and a bit of a perfectionist) it absolutely pisses me off when folks don't set the rear toe evenly. I get it on the front, a little wiggle and the other side goes out but the back is farking fixed. One doesn't move when you move the other one.

That's a great deal better than the before, I just wouldn't have taken it off the rack like that lol.
 
Took it back and they did another alignment but it made no difference at all. I will say it's more like it will start tracking to the left under harder acceleration if you take your hands off the steering wheel. Is this maybe a radial pull issue with the rear tires? Has anyone else noticed this? Attached alignment printout.
Are you having to fight the wheel to keep it straight, or does it only drift when you take your hand off the wheel?

I ask, because that could be the crown in the road, tire pressure or indeed a bad tire.

Double check your pressures..don't go by the stupid gauge in the car, they're notorious for reading close but not exactly right.

I don't remember if you have, but it doesn't take much to swap sides with the front tires to see if it swaps sides with the drift. If it does, it's the tire.

Also, make sure you're driving on different roads/ lanes to alleviate road crown. We have roads down here that I actually have to grip the steering wheel to keep it straight instead of my usual 2 finger grip on the steering wheel.
 
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Are you having to fight the wheel to keep it straight, or does it only drift when you take your hand off the wheel?

I ask, because that could be the crown in the road, tire pressure or indeed a bad tire.

Double check your pressures..don't go by the stupid gauge in the car, they're notorious for reading close but not exactly right.

I don't remember if you have, but it doesn't take much to swap sides with the front tires to see if it swaps sides with the drift. If it does, it's the tire.

Also, make sure you're driving on different roads/ lanes to alleviate road crown. We have roads down here that I actually have to grip the steering wheel to keep it straight instead of my usual 2 finger grip on the steering wheel.
Only drifts when I take my hands off the wheel and only when accelerating; when coasting it tracks straight (and consistently pulling left regardless of the road I'm on). At this point I'm also thinking it's the tires since I noticed this after a rotation and alignment. Any suggestions on if it would be a rear tire or a front tire? Also, would uneven wear on a tire cause this with the new alignment or is it more of a tire defect (radial tire pull comes to mind).
 
Only drifts when I take my hands off the wheel and only when accelerating; when coasting it tracks straight (and consistently pulling left regardless of the road I'm on). At this point I'm also thinking it's the tires since I noticed this after a rotation and alignment. Any suggestions on if it would be a rear tire or a front tire? Also, would uneven wear on a tire cause this with the new alignment or is it more of a tire defect (radial tire pull comes to mind).
Swap the fronts first. I'm not saying it isn't a rear for sure, I just don't feel like it is.
 
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Swap the fronts first. I'm not saying it isn't a rear for sure, I just don't feel like it is.
I'll give it a go. Just curious, would a hunter road force balancer be able to detect a bad tire (example - if the the belts were not properly aligned causing radial pull). I'm wondering now if one of the tires is worn unevenly from a bad alignment vs. a bad tire from the manufacturer. Seems like if the tire is unevenly worn from a bad alignment that over time after the alignment is fixed the tire will eventually wear down evenly. I got the tires last summer with full coverage but feel like I'll somehow have to prove one of the tires is bad (if this turns out to be the case). Thanks again
 
I'll give it a go. Just curious, would a hunter road force balancer be able to detect a bad tire (example - if the the belts were not properly aligned causing radial pull). I'm wondering now if one of the tires is worn unevenly from a bad alignment vs. a bad tire from the manufacturer. Seems like if the tire is unevenly worn from a bad alignment that over time after the alignment is fixed the tire will eventually wear down evenly. I got the tires last summer with full coverage but feel like I'll somehow have to prove one of the tires is bad (if this turns out to be the case). Thanks again
Road force will take wheel and tire shape into account to better balance them. It will highlight an out of round tire, but you'll generally feel that as a vibration instead of a pull.
 
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I'll give it a go. Just curious, would a hunter road force balancer be able to detect a bad tire (example - if the the belts were not properly aligned causing radial pull). I'm wondering now if one of the tires is worn unevenly from a bad alignment vs. a bad tire from the manufacturer. Seems like if the tire is unevenly worn from a bad alignment that over time after the alignment is fixed the tire will eventually wear down evenly. I got the tires last summer with full coverage but feel like I'll somehow have to prove one of the tires is bad (if this turns out to be the case). Thanks again
So it turns out it's one of the rear tires (or maybe both). I rotated the front tires left front to right front and vice versa but didn't make a difference. I then did the same for the back tires and now it pulls a little to the right when accelerating whereas before it was pulling to the left. Not sure how to determine which tire is the problem; I guess I could rotate out one back tires for a front tire but not sure that will work well. Thinking I'll just go back to the dealership where I bought the tires last July and see if they can do anything since I bought them under warranty but I'm not holding my breath. One question I have is, since the car was out of alignment before then could it just be uneven wear on the tires causing this and if so, will it go away as I drive on the tires more now that the alignment is corrected. If I end up having to buy new rear tires, I wonder if I can just put wider tires on the back instead of replacing them with the same size tire? I wouldn't be able to rotate front to back anymore but oh well. I currently have 275's on all fours.
 
So it turns out it's one of the rear tires (or maybe both). I rotated the front tires left front to right front and vice versa but didn't make a difference. I then did the same for the back tires and now it pulls a little to the right when accelerating whereas before it was pulling to the left. Not sure how to determine which tire is the problem; I guess I could rotate out one back tires for a front tire but not sure that will work well. Thinking I'll just go back to the dealership where I bought the tires last July and see if they can do anything since I bought them under warranty but I'm not holding my breath. One question I have is, since the car was out of alignment before then could it just be uneven wear on the tires causing this and if so, will it go away as I drive on the tires more now that the alignment is corrected. If I end up having to buy new rear tires, I wonder if I can just put wider tires on the back instead of replacing them with the same size tire? I wouldn't be able to rotate front to back anymore but oh well. I currently have 275's on all fours.
Glad you pinpointed it to the rear tires. I can honestly say I've never heard of it happening unless one tire was a different size than the other, so it's news to me lol

9" or 9.5" wide wheels are pretty much maxed out for width on 275's. Going any wider will "pinch" the tire, causing a smaller contact patch than there should be and excess wear in the center of the tire.

Just find a better gripping/ handling 275 and roll with that.
 
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Glad you pinpointed it to the rear tires. I can honestly say I've never heard of it happening unless one tire was a different size than the other, so it's news to me lol

9" or 9.5" wide wheels are pretty much maxed out for width on 275's. Going any wider will "pinch" the tire, causing a smaller contact patch than there should be and excess wear in the center of the tire.

Just find a better gripping/ handling 275 and roll with that.
I think someone else mentioned this but could this also be caused if they accidentally didn't rotate both front tires to the back? I bought a tire depth gauge; hasn't arrived yet but was going to double check tire depth once I get that. Thanks again for all your input.
 
Took it back and they did another alignment but it made no difference at all. I will say it's more like it will start tracking to the left under harder acceleration if you take your hands off the steering wheel. Is this maybe a radial pull issue with the rear tires? Has anyone else noticed this? Attached alignment printout.
I’ve been having this issue since January been to 5 different shops and am told the same thing every time which is nothing is wrong with it. It’s starting to really upset me because I drive it daily and Ik there is most definitely something up. I’ve had it aligned 6 times this year. Never changes it. In fact now it pulls even harder to the left. 2012 Charger SRT8.
 
I have two SRT8s. Modified has Godspeed adjustable camber "kit" arm on Rear, 295/35 20. Stock has Adjustable upper control arms on front for Camber, have to cut a slit in plastic fender well. I would do both looking at at alignment. In midland, tx I had to pass cars and punched it to 130 so yea I like to go strait. I'd bet that helps even with Toe some. I know Toe is pointing inside or outside. Camber is tilt. Can do Adjustable Toe on rear also and might want to.

Yes I'm OCD also about alignments seeing how much rear 295/35 20 cost or tires period ow a days, same tire size as GTR that parked next to me in modified.
Alignment guy asked why I was doing one last month, "whats wrong". Drove to Midland and Carlsbad on shitty roads and I just want Alignment. Pisses me off not to see before. Pepboys does free check and offers 90 day warranty min. Lifetime for $200. Replaced 2 tires on Stock and all 4 on modified this year $$$$. Had picked up screw in both tires after replaced on stock.
"I CAN'T DRIVE 65" (unless heavy rain, slow traffic ect)
 
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