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#1 ·
My perspective on engine tuning...

We've all been very anxious about waiting for some performance upgrades, etc. However, it appears that these cars are very hard to "hack" into for performance tuning.

I've heard a few comments like "...doesn't DCX know we want to modify these cars?...so why didn't they make it easier for us?..." Yes, DCX absolutely does know that we want to mod these things out.

However, they can't make it easy for us for at least two reasons: 1) EPA certification. They have to show that they've done their best at tamper proofing so that any Tom, Rick, and Harry can't change the performance that may potentially make the car not meet the emissions standards. 2) To keep warranty costs under control as much as possible. How many threads have we seen that someone modded their car and broke something, but now they are going back to the dealer for warranty repair? (FYI...I applaud need4speed on this one...he knows that if you play...you pay...I know there are others...but his is the first to come to mind.).

To be totally honest, I'm actually really surprised that EPA isn't harder on these aftermarket tuning companies. My bet is that 90% of the cars with these tuners will pass the sniff test. I know for a fact how they increase the power for the diesel engines, and I know that those changes will not meet emissions regulations.

Let's just say...engine manufacturers are under heavy scrutiny from the EPA. They have to declare everything they are doing to make sure the enigne is meeting emissions regulations. In addition, they have to show how they are tamper proofing the software as well. They also have to declare software part numbers, etc.

Now some may ask...why are these DCX cars harder to tap into than the GM or Ford cars. I don't know if I can answer that. However, I do have a couple of questions (honest questions)...1) Are there tuners readily available for the new V8 mustangs or C6 vettes? 2) If so, how long did it take for them to come out?

Anywho...just keep in mind that anything dealing with the EPA can be very difficult and or take an extremely long time. I hope this helps some.

Keith
 
#2 ·
My perspective on engine tuning...

1) Are there tuners readily available for the new V8 mustangs or C6 vettes? 2) If so, how long did it take for them to come out?


Keith
To answer your question yes there is readily available tuning software for c6 vettes. I just left the gm world when i sold my 05 gto that had a 403 stroker in it. My first setup on the car was just heads, cam, etc. I bought the car in february 05 by June 05, I had it tuned by my guy with LS2edit, which worked for any ls2 based vehicle. It was a moderate software at best. It took about a year for HP tuners, which is working on software for the 5.7 and 6.1 right now as we speak. HP tuners was the king hands down with just the amount tables and options available to able to tune the car. It is normal in the gm world to have a tuning option in no time at all. As far as ford goes i have no clue.
 
#3 ·
Ford always has a ton of aftermarket toys. They were smart this time around, with the new mustang. They released the new car to aftermarket tuners months before they were released to the public.
 
#6 ·
I beleive that it has taken DCX just a wee bit to come to the realization of what the aftermarket has to offer them. I think that if you watch, you will see DCX jump all over this market (just as ford/chev already have) in a way that will bring tears of esctasy to all us out here in HEMI land......the days of Ford/Chev ruling the Friday night cruises is coming to an end and MOPAR will be the king once again. I......can hardly wait!