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MSRP means nothing!!! Signed order is only thing that will protect you. Youtube video of a guy on a dealer lot proves that the MSRP's is normal but there are extra fees that they don't publicize! And there are 2021 models. Imagine what they will do with 2022 models.

Example #1: $51,270 MSRP
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Your price: $61,270
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Example #2: Really disturbing because the Window sticker has someone's name on it so it was probably an ordered car... MSRP $56,495
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Your price... $74,939!!!!!!!
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Unless this guy Bruce Carter signed a sales order with all fees and taxes included he is F$%#ed.
 
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So after copying and pasting, it’s the same exact link as before. Doesn’t make any sense to me why it worked for me vs before…but all I did was click on one of the ones in transit and replace the vin with mine and it shows up. I have it bookmarked in my phone with a link from before…doesn’t work. Bookmarked the one that shows up…same url. Doesn’t make sense to me but whatever. I have my window sticker
Aye you’re right, only clicking and replacing the VIN works lol… Weird. Got my Window Sticker now les gooo
 
Nah, it was the good ol' cryptic "however a Dealer ETA has not been provided".
What you need to do is go speak with your dealer about your situation and then you will understand.

The MSRP keeps changing so not sure they will lock in a price in advance of the car being delivered for a lease because the residual value isn't set in place. Finance is different because you are not giving the car back after 3 years. Whatever you did in 2019 is not applicable to 2022 because the whole car industry is turned upside down.

The website pricing is NOT accurate. So stop referencing the price you get on there. Dealer markup (market adjustment) is on TOP of the MSRP that is unknown so only way to know the price you are dealing with is to speak with your dealer.

The MSRP of your build is more like $62000+ plus market adjustment if your dealer forces that on you. But you will not know until you get the real pricing from the dealer.

My advice is if you really want a Charger then do not plan to close your deal at the dealer when you go. Go there and gather information. Do not sign. Go visit another local dealer to get a competitive rate. If you are seeing that white car and green car on dodge.com then you might be in NY area because I see it too. Some dealers around here are charging $5k market adjustment.

Also consider finance and deduct $0.585 per mile. Leasing may make it "easier" but maybe you will get a better "deal" with finance. Plus with finance you own the car which gives you a trade in value or ability to sell the car in future. With a lease you have nothing. The bank is literally taking your car away from you in 4 months and now you are left scrambling in this terrible market. The dealer is going to be able to buy your leased car back from bank for cheap and resell for a ton and you get nothing for it.

Pros and cons.
So after copying and pasting, it’s the same exact link as before. Doesn’t make any sense to me why it worked for me vs before…but all I did was click on one of the ones in transit and replace the vin with mine and it shows up. I have it bookmarked in my phone with a link from before…doesn’t work. Bookmarked the one that shows up…same url. Doesn’t make sense to me but whatever. I have my window sticker
I tried the link and I have a window sticker! LETS GO lol anyone have a window sticker?
 
No. Consumer reports offer black book trade values. I usually pull all three, Kbb, Black book and Nada. Take all three, add together and ÷ by 3. Gets me really close to what I can get. Plus I always see what my trade is selling for at dealers in the area to give me an idea of the diff. Go from there.

But I've already been offered 2k more then I paid for my SPWB. I took it to my local dealer for some warranty stuff last week. Sales Mgr came to me in the waiting area and asked if I'd be interested in selling it to them. He said I'll give you 52k. I said thanks but I just got it and I'm keeping it. Course he said well if you ever want to sell give him an opportunity to buy it. I agreed. Crazy.
I love Roxanne as a name for that red(y)
 
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The day after it is built, finished with the Upfitter (if needed) and ready to ship it will show up. (status KZ).


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I have quite a wait still. Figuring not till end of March ealy April.
 
My window sticker popped up today after not being available yesterday. Ordered my SPWB on 12/3. So, the fact that the windows sticker is complete means the car is finished being built? Just waiting for shipment?
 
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My window sticker popped up today after not being available yesterday. Ordered my SPWB on 12/3. So, the fact that the windows sticker is complete means the car is finished being built? Just waiting for shipment?
You should have gotten a build sheet once the car is finished being built. Window sticker means the car has been built, inspected, and released by the plant and the dealer has been invoiced. Does not necessarily mean it's been shipped. Check with your dealer and see if you're in one of the following codes:

KZ: Released by plant , invoiced

KZL: Released - not shipped

KZLD: Transit Delayed

KZM: First rail departure

KZN: First rail arrival
 
Saw a black 2022 SPWB "In Transit" to a dealer in St. Louis. Had the window sticker which checked out to be the same pricing as when I ordered my SPWB on 1/10/22. Checked my VIN and didn't get a hit, as expected, guess I'm going to be waiting at least until April also. (The same dealer also showed a Charger Hellcat as "Being Built").

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My window sticker popped up today after not being available yesterday. Ordered my SPWB on 12/3. So, the fact that the windows sticker is complete means the car is finished being built? Just waiting for shipment?
Yes that's correct, once the sticker appears online it is ready to ship.

Now when it actually ships of course is another matter. I would suggest you talk to your dealer and get him to look at your POC, it should have an estimated dealer arrival date on it and that's about as close as you're going to get for now.


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You should have gotten a build sheet once the car is finished being built. Window sticker means the car has been built, inspected, and released by the plant and the dealer has been invoiced. Does not necessarily mean it's been shipped. Check with your dealer and see if you're in one of the following codes:

KZ: Released by plant , invoiced

KZL: Released - not shipped

KZLD: Transit Delayed

KZM: First rail departure

KZN: First rail arrival
Yeah, the build sheet showed up last weekend. I emailed my dealer / salesman today before I saw the window sticker, and they said 'it was in build status still'. I get the impression they really didn't look.

I live in the Cleveland area, which is only 300 miles from Brampton. Too bad they don't let you pick it up from the factory, LOL.
 
Guys I’m a little worried, ordered a 2022 scat pack like a month ago, we agreed on a sale price of $43,000
Placed a deposit and all that, but I’m not 100% sure if we signed anything agreeing on the price, besides this on the order sheet.
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Guys I’m a little worried, ordered a 2022 scat pack like a month ago, we agreed on a sale price of $43,000
Placed a deposit and all that, but I’m not 100% sure if we signed anything agreeing on the price, besides this on the order sheet. View attachment 303002
Call your rep/manager to find out the situation. Ask what dealer fees and taxes you should expect and try to get another document signed to confirm it. IMO. I would avoid mentioning anything about "market Adjustment". Play completely dumb and only talk about generic fees like registration, doc fees and taxes. I'm sure others will chime in with their recommendations.
 
Sold out? Or pause on accepting new orders?
 
Odd. Two dealers near me have a 22 SPWB each being built/in transit to them, both dealer orders
Same here, two different dealers in my area each have a Widebody Scat Pack that has been built, one of them is in transit.


















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For some reason I can't open the links. Is anyone else having that problem? I click on them and am instantly kicked back to the forum.
 
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