Will a 2005 rt exhaust fit my 2011 se ?
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The front of the X=pipe is 2.5", your down pipes are only 2.25", so you will have to have an adapter welded in. Also the tips won't fit throufh the chrome trim in your bumper, so you will have to remove them or cut 2.5" off the tips.
This will help the engine breathe/perform better, but it won't sound much better than what you already have, that suitcase muffler is heavy and really makes the car quiet.
This will help the engine breathe/perform better, but it won't sound much better than what you already have, that suitcase muffler is heavy and really makes the car quiet.
Just the person I was hoping to hear from. Of all the posts that I have read I'm regards to the v6 exhausts you seem to have the most knowledgeable input krautmaster. I'm not sure if this is such a good deal because of its condition . Do you think that having a muffler shop make me a system would be a better option ? I'm am looking for a decent rumble to give it that old school muscle car sound .
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Due the the way the exhaust pulses fire, a V6 is NEVER going to have an "old school muscle car sound", only a V8 can make that sound.
The V6 has an exhaust pulse every 60 degrees of rotation, while a V8 has the pulses every 45 degrees, which is what gives it that choppy sound.
A V8 sounds like a RRRRaaaapppp, while a V6 sounds like Blaaaahhhhh. (Best way I can describe it without sound clips!!)
You have to be satisfied with only getting a deeper tone than you have, and putting on a system with that big suitcase muffler isn't going to get you anywhere near what you want. Try looking around for a Cat Back system like DynoMax, FlowMaster, Pipes, etc.
The V6 has an exhaust pulse every 60 degrees of rotation, while a V8 has the pulses every 45 degrees, which is what gives it that choppy sound.
A V8 sounds like a RRRRaaaapppp, while a V6 sounds like Blaaaahhhhh. (Best way I can describe it without sound clips!!)
You have to be satisfied with only getting a deeper tone than you have, and putting on a system with that big suitcase muffler isn't going to get you anywhere near what you want. Try looking around for a Cat Back system like DynoMax, FlowMaster, Pipes, etc.
Thanks for the reply krautmaster , once again you have taught me something in regards to the v6 exhaust. I know I can never achieve a v6 sound from a v6 but yes I do want that deeper tone. I ha e seen some video of yours and others on you tube to try and find the sound I'll be happy with . I have heard some cars that the owner claims to have just changed the muffler and achieved a much deeper tone. Is this feasible or do I have to go with a whole cat back system ?
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The stock V6 exhaust is garbage: two down pipes going into a Y pipe, a single pipe into a restrictive muffler, a single pipe going out into a T that splits the left and right into two big resonators... I'd change the whole thing (and did). You could try having a shop cut out the first muffler and weld in a straight pipe and see what it sounds like with just the resonators. The V6 drones quite a bit without resonators.
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I see what you mean. Don't have to be rocket scientist to see the restrictions caused by this.
What kind of difference to you notice in regards to the performance of your car when you changed yours ? I think I will be going with the dynomax setup as its priced at about half of the competitors
What kind of difference to you notice in regards to the performance of your car when you changed yours ? I think I will be going with the dynomax setup as its priced at about half of the competitors
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Love the sound description! :bigthumb:
However, it's a bit more than you stated. The tone comes from the frequency (rate of the pulses per second rather than pulses per revolution) and the amplitude comes from the amount of volume being pushed in each pulse (much more important for a deep sound) in the exhaust tube.
When at idle, the rate is determined by the number of cylinders (since idle speed is generally the same for a V6 and a V8, but at higher RPM it's about pulses per second. A V6 at 2500 RPM can sound exactly like a V8 at 2000 RPM IF the pulse volume and exhaust tube diameter are identical.
In other words a 8L V6 with a 3" exhaust will have the same tone at 2500 RPM that a 6L V8 with the same exhaust does at 2000 RPM.
The V6 pushes 0.6L per pulse. The 5.7L V8 pushes 0.71L per pulse, the 6.1L pushes 0.76L per pulse and the 6.4L pushes 0.8L per pulse. This is where the diameter of the tube comes into play to change the tone of the pulse.
Think of the exhaust as a musical wind instrument....like a Tuba vs a French horn vs. a Trumpet.
It's about frequency, amplitude, tube (diameter and length) and modulation. Frequency is determined by the engine cylinders and RPM, amplitude is determined by the pulse volume, tube geometry is just that, and modulation is about the mufflers and resonators.
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That was the system I put on my car first. It was fine on the highway, but it droned too much for me in the stop-n-go traffic I encounter on my way to and from work... it needs resonators, but the cheap ones I tried were worse than the original system.
I put on DynoMax Quiet flow mufflers, tailipes, and resonators which are just 10" long quiet flow mufflers. This is the DynoMax replacement system for the 2006-2010 Charger R/T. It killed the drone and left a nice deep tone that you will not tire of after a short period of time.
Another forum member used the same DynoMax system and had the same drone problem until he swapped the Super Turbo mufflers out for DynoMax VT mufflers, which cured his problem (a cheaper approach than mine).
You can buy this system from Summit Racing for a lot less $$$:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-39525
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Yes that will deepen it up some, and you won't have drone with the factory resonators. Only problem is that nasty restrictive "T" junction.
Take a look at this pic---you can see if a muffler shop will make a couple straight pipes that tie into your resonators, and it won't cost much.
Take a look at this pic---you can see if a muffler shop will make a couple straight pipes that tie into your resonators, and it won't cost much.
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And another pic:
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No, that is something straight from NASCAR for sustained high rpm, you don't really need it. They could put in an "H" pipe up front, but again, not necessary-it just helps equalize the flow so it doesn't pop so much on deceleration.
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