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So, I've been on the phone all day with various speed shops around the Country. I've talked to specialist and everyone in between. I wanted to get a SuperCharger or something that would give me some nice extra HP for my ride. After speaking with EVERYONE under the moon I came to the conclusion as did the EXPERTS that a ProCharger is the best way to go. Why? Basically they said it's the best system for anyone not wanting to worry about their engine on a daily driver. You bolt it on and your ready to go. As long as you keep the settings the way they are supposed to be with the build you should not have any issues.

So, what did the EXPERTS I talked to tell me about the systems in general to make me want to go with a ProCharger? Read on....

Kenne Bell, SMS or any other SuperCharger that sits on the top of the engine creates excessive heat under your hood and with a daily driver, around town, etc this can cause issues.

So, I asked these super mechanics and speed pros what they suggested I do. I said "what about Turbo" and got a very strong "Nooooo, you don't want to do that" as they said it required more maintenance and could also cause lots of issues on a stock motor.

So I said, well, what does that leave me with? They said I should get a ProCharger. They said they can be put on a stock engine, require little maintenance, don't create as much heat and give you 150hp gains. So I asked ALL of them if they liked Vortech or ProCharger better. They all told me ProCharger........ they said Vortech takes up to much room and has to be tied into your oil pan. The ProCharger doesn't and it won't take up as much room.

So in the end I am going with the ProCharger..... BUT WAIT! It's not over! I checked with ProCharger today and got authorized dealer info to order the ProCharger. Check out the price variations below. I found that it will take about 5 - 10 days to get here and a solid day to install. The install fee is $800 here and that includes a dyno run and proper tune. The ProCharger comes with a tune, but mine has to be adjusted for other mods they tell me.

ProCharger for my SRT-8 6.1L HEMI
I'm getting all the goodies included
- Helical Gears: Makes it quiet
- Polished Charger & Polished Bracket

These were the quotes I got with tax, shipment, etc. I guess I'm not allowed to list the businesses I got these prices from am I?

$5921.00 - BEST PRICE!

$6143.00

$6799.99

Once I get the ProCharger I will get video and pics of the install, Dyno run, etc.... STAY TUNED!


NOTE: I am no car expert, I simply wrote up information gathered from talking to shops suggested on this and various other Dodge forums. Do not rage on me! =)
 

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Im going with Procharger myself. Im putting it in by the end of summer. It was either Vortech or Procharger. Im going with Procharger stage 2 kit. I just like the air to air instead of the water to air. By the way, the Vortech does NOT tap into the oil pan. It is a self contained kit like the Procharger. Both kits are very good and like I said before only reason im going with Procharger is the fact its an air to air intercooler.
 

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Nice can't wait for the results.....
 

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Im going with Procharger myself. Im putting it in by the end of summer. It was either Vortech or Procharger. Im going with Procharger stage 2 kit. I just like the air to air instead of the water to air. By the way, the Vortech does NOT tap into the oil pan. It is a self contained kit like the Procharger. Both kits are very good and like I said before only reason im going with Procharger is the fact its an air to air intercooler.
ahh kk maybe I mixed that up with something else then. Thx =)
 

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Can anyone tell me the difference between the Procharger HO kit and the Stage II kit? I paged around their website a little, but didn't really see anything that defined the difference.
 

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Like everything........ this is a matter of opinion. I decided on the Vortech. I had a couple of reasons.

- First, the Procharger is louder. I like the sleeper. So the V3 being so quite is a plus.
- I have heard that the Vortech install is cleaner. (This is, of course, opinion but I heard more positives on the Vortech side).
- I have seen many Vortech units on fords last for tens of thousands of miles. I figured I can expect the same. BMC has been running one for over 30K miles now......so it seems to be true.
- I can get an extended warranty on the Vortech to cover me for anything that the dealer will not should there be an issue. That is peace of mind on my new Charger.

Other than those points....... the Procharger and Vortech are very similar. The other big difference is the Air-to-Air vs. the Water-to-Air intercooler. Each has its following. Air-to-Air is more common and easier to design. However, the Water-to-Air is more efficient. Water can absorb a great deal more energy than Air. This means that a water based intercooler is more efficient. Of course, you have the risk of leaks, etc. I prefer water based..... but again that is opinion.

The Procharger is a fine system! You'll be great......... I know that I'll be just as happy soon!
 

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I am guessing the reason for some of the differences in pricing would be some shops quoted you a HO kit and others a stage 2 kit, make sure you are comparing apples to apples as the kits are quite different
 

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Can anyone tell me the difference between the Procharger HO kit and the Stage II kit? I paged around their website a little, but didn't really see anything that defined the difference.
When I looked into it I was told that the Stage II kit runs on a dedicated belt. Other than that, I think it is the same intercooler. The plumbing is a bit different.
 

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Can anyone tell me the difference between the Procharger HO kit and the Stage II kit? I paged around their website a little, but didn't really see anything that defined the difference.
Several differences

The Bracketry is different and it runs a seperate belt. It also has a front intake like the Vortech vs the rear facing intake on the HO. Also the Stage 2 allows you to keep the factory Radiator Overflow tank, the HO replaces it. HO is a good kit for lower boost the Stage 2 is better if you plan on upping the boost or running a larger head unit later on.
 

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Thanks for the reply guys. I'm still trying to decide between Vortech, Procharger, and Kenne-Belle. They all say this summer they'll have kits for the 2010 5.7l Hemi. I'm guessing they are all waiting on Diablo for the tune.
 

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Thanks for the reply guys. I'm still trying to decide between Vortech, Procharger, and Kenne-Belle. They all say this summer they'll have kits for the 2010 5.7l Hemi. I'm guessing they are all waiting on Diablo for the tune.
We can get you a tune for a Vortech system if you buy from us. It wont be a tune from Vortech but we can get Johan from Diablo to whip up a great tune for you!
 

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We can get you a tune for a Vortech system if you buy from us. It wont be a tune from Vortech but we can get Johan from Diablo to whip up a great tune for you!

That is good news. I should take delivery of my car in 2-4 weeks, and will likely do something fairly quickly. I don't want to order anything though, until I actually have the car. In fact, as I was typing this, the dealer called and told me that they just received the VIN number, so the car is being built now. Thanks a lot for the response.
 

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I am guessing the reason for some of the differences in pricing would be some shops quoted you a HO kit and others a stage 2 kit, make sure you are comparing apples to apples as the kits are quite different
All kits were priced on the SAME features.

$5921.00 - BEST PRICE! was NOT from a vendor here. But a trusted dealer from ProCharger.

$6143.00

$6799.99 - This was the price from a vendor here and ended up being the highest quote I got.
 

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Is it dumb of me to not want the stage 2 Procharger because I really dont like the intake? It bugs me that the air filter just hangs out in the back there like that. The Vortech just seems thrown on there with all that plumbing. I know looks shouldnt be a factor when simply adding HP, but I cant help but think how sexy the SMS or the Kenne Bell is, but if its not good for daily driving then I probably shouldnt spend my money on one of those. Of the Vortech and the Procharger, I like the looks of the Vortech a little better. Although the HO looks clean, apparently you cant add more down the road if you want...grrr, decisions decisions :confused:
 

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Is it dumb of me to not want the stage 2 Procharger because I really dont like the intake? It bugs me that the air filter just hangs out in the back there like that. The Vortech just seems thrown on there with all that plumbing. I know looks shouldnt be a factor when simply adding HP, but I cant help but think how sexy the SMS or the Kenne Bell is, but if its not good for daily driving then I probably shouldnt spend my money on one of those. Of the Vortech and the Procharger, I like the looks of the Vortech a little better. Although the HO looks clean, apparently you cant add more down the road if you want...grrr, decisions decisions :confused:
OK.... Everyone has an opinion and why you, personally, would go with one kit over another, is your business. Ultimately, the people giving you the opinion are not going to give you any money to pay for it. Right?

Choose what works for you. If looks is 30% of the issue... then take that into account....

For me it was what I had mentioned before. Noise levels (search up on youtube, it's easy to find a couple of cars running with each - SMS, Vortech, KB, Procharger, etc), design of the kit (ease of install, precision of kit - more than the looks), other units installed in cars I've seen and, last, the ability to get an extended warranty.

On the ProCharger HO unit.... I agree, the air filter location seems a bit odd to me. Sitting to the driver's left of the engine above the exhaust manifold would have to raise the intake temperature somewhat. Given the supercharger will add temperature to the intake as well it seems like the intercooler would have to do more. Could be a reason why it is so large. It would make more sense to locate that intake elsewhere. At the same time, it will be sitting right uner the hood scoop exit at that point. Unless it has some sort of heat sheild underneath, I don't know whether that is worth it.

Ultimately though, which you go with is really a matter of choice...... they are all going to give you similar results..... bigger HP to the wheels.
 

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Is it dumb of me to not want the stage 2 Procharger because I really dont like the intake? It bugs me that the air filter just hangs out in the back there like that. The Vortech just seems thrown on there with all that plumbing. I know looks shouldnt be a factor when simply adding HP, but I cant help but think how sexy the SMS or the Kenne Bell is, but if its not good for daily driving then I probably shouldnt spend my money on one of those. Of the Vortech and the Procharger, I like the looks of the Vortech a little better. Although the HO looks clean, apparently you cant add more down the road if you want...grrr, decisions decisions :confused:
It comes down to personal preference, and on both systems you can change to smaller pulleys to add more boost or upgrade the head unit to a larger version.
Of course for those you will also want to upgrade engine internals

One other reaon I like Vortech is they offer a trade in program, so if you decide to upgrade to a larger compressor (which will fit on the same bracket an plumbing) You can trade in yours and for a small upgrade fee get a new larger unit. No need to try to sell your old head unit and pay full price for a new one.:beerchug:
 

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It comes down to personal preference, and on both systems you can change to smaller pulleys to add more boost or upgrade the head unit to a larger version.
Of course for those you will also want to upgrade engine internals

One other reaon I like Vortech is they offer a trade in program, so if you decide to upgrade to a larger compressor (which will fit on the same bracket an plumbing) You can trade in yours and for a small upgrade fee get a new larger unit. No need to try to sell your old head unit and pay full price for a new one.:beerchug:
Thats a good selling poit. How long is the trade up good for?

I went with the KB ... Super Quiet , Upgrade Boost levels and looks great at the shows

Also have 8K miles on it in 7 months
 
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