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Another user posted this link in another thread, I thought I would put it in its own thread so more people might see it -

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=12715

This method works perfectly, and took me about 3 minutes.

I did not remove the switch from the dash, I simply removed the knob from the switch, and used a very sharp X-acto knife to trim the little tab away until the knob could rotate left to the "A" position.

Some notes on my particular car, I found that I did not have to disconnect my battery afterwards(possibly due to not disconneting the switch from the harness?), my car is equiped with climate control, and has the "eye" in the center of the dash.
 

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Thanks, I'm gonna definitely try this.
 

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sorry, but im not sure im following

what are automatic headlights?

sorry for the ignorance, but i dont get what this process getting you
 

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They turn on at dark (or whatever preset value the light sensor on the dash defines as "dark" and off when it's light out. Lots of modern GMS have this.
 

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This is very interesting indeed. So the only thing that prevents the auto feature from working is a different knob/switch. Is this correct? I don't understand why Dodge bothers to include the light sensor on cars that were never supposed to have automatic headlights in the first place? Does the sensor perform some other function as well.
 

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getting your KNOB off

From maneval69's brother, RadarmagneT!

OK, Just did too much work to check this out... TD1932 is right on...

Unhook the battery and leave for 2 minutes before starting this or anything (you do NOT want your airbag to mistakenly deploy)

But if you are even and firm, and HOLD the switch module in place as you pull the KNOB straight out, you can remove the KNOB from the cluster. I used a little wiggle while pulling which might help loosen it.

Then, barely reseat the KNOB and it will turn the 4th (leftmost) position... And, on my Charger w/climate control, I've got autolights.

I was going to mod the KNOB, but since it is clear plastic and might be more brittle I decided not too...

I used small wire cutters(dikes) to clip off most of the first (right most) bump and used a dremel to clean it up... Knob fits all the way on AND autolight are working.

It also looks like there is another "momentary" switch blocked by the same keying past the new position but it didn't do anything when I bounced off it. :)

The TOO MUCH WORK I did was removing the lower door trim & front side door trim to get to the screw for the under column panel. Got this panel off to reach behind the Light switch assembly and press the clips to easily remove it. (the magnum service manual procedure took these steps indirectly)
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Sheesh...is it really that hard to turn a little knob when the sun goes down?? Seems like a lot of trouble for a feature you really don't need :bored:
 

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Sheesh...is it really that hard to turn a little knob when the sun goes down?? Seems like a lot of trouble for a feature you really don't need :bored:

think what you want, but once you get used to auto headlights.. it is hard to not have them...

And to spend 3 minutes to NEVER have to touch that knob again... is not alot of work... but hey... if you dont want to do the mod, that is up to you... but you are a fool if you dont...
 

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I have been driving GM vehicles for so long with auto-headlights, I drove off with my headlights off for the first few days nearly everytime I got in the car at night - obviously as I left the city lights I would notice they were not on, or people would flash their lights to notify me that mine were off.

It is just something I am used to - neat little feature to have.
 

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i have a question i did the modification, in the day and the lights stood on, im wondering now if the sensor is being covered somewhere, i see a circle in the middle of dashboard, near windshield, and im wondering if that needs to be cut out so sensor can see, cause i think, that it is thinking it is nite time all the time??

i dont have autp climate control
 

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banditelvis said:
i have a question i did the modification, in the day and the lights stood on, im wondering now if the sensor is being covered somewhere, i see a circle in the middle of dashboard, near windshield, and im wondering if that needs to be cut out so sensor can see, cause i think, that it is thinking it is nite time all the time??

i dont have autp climate control
Sorry to inform you but to get the auto-headlight ability (with the mod you made) requires that you also have the dual auto climate controls. I thought this was plainly stated.

Please, do not cut into your dash. It would do you no good and only put a hole in it.
 

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One thing I do not like about the auto lights is that you cannot turn them off when approaching a sentry position. Of course, with this, you get the best of both worlds. I only rarely go on base after dark anymore, so this works just fine for me.
 

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One thing I do not like about the auto lights is that you cannot turn them off when approaching a sentry position.
ummm yeah you can.... just flip the switch to off... :)

even with auto, you can still manually turn them on, off, and turn on just the parking lamps... it is just adding another position to th switch.....
 

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I should have clarified, on GMs with auto, you cannot. That's why I said this works for me, it can stay in auto most of the time,but I still get the option to turn it off when I do go on base after dark.

I love automation, but the user should ALWAYS have the option to turn it off. SRT-4s, for instance. come programmed so that at 15mph, all the doors autolock. And also are set so the first press of the unlock only unlocks the drivers door.

While both of the settings are wonderful things, I like to lock my door when I want to, and I hate to press the button twice:) Dodge wisely makes it possible to change these with just your ignition key:)
 

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GLHS837 said:
I should have clarified, on GMs with auto, you cannot. That's why I said this works for me, it can stay in auto most of the time,but I still get the option to turn it off when I do go on base after dark.
ummm ya you can... :)

I currently have a 2003 Chevy Avalanche, and I am able to manually turn on parking lamps, headlamps, put it in auto, or turn off the lights...
 

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Ahhh, looking closer, seems they changed in 2000, wifes Balzer is a 99:) So we're both right:)
 
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