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I agree. $5,000 is nothing. The 392 is levels above the 5.7. The difference in power between the two is night and day. If you can afford the 392, you won't regret it.

The 5.7 is no slouch, but it's performance is average in today's world.
 

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It was in response to the OP who said, "I test drove them both, I cant seem to decide what is the better car. I am coming from a 4cylinder Car to a V8." I completely agree with what you said, which is why I voted to go 5.7 R/T in the poll up top.
Speaking from my own experience, I had a gorgeous '10 5.7 PCP R/T Classic 6 spd with custom white Katzkin interior. My first Challenger! When the '11 392 SRT came out one year later, I bought a 6 spd GWE SRT. I had both cars for awhile, but the difference between the two left me only wanting to drive the SRT.
Coming from a 4 cylinder, the OP doesn't sound like there's a crying need for to much power, in much the same way I don't really need a HC. Sure, I'd love one, but truth be told, I can't even go all out with my SPWB in the area that I live, so a HC wouldn't work for me.
Ahh, I see and agree! I think we鈥檙e on the exact same page. As I had said, I heavily debated on ordering a hellcat. I had one spec鈥檇 out and ready for a deposit. I changed my mind last minute, and I still think it was the better. The cars are just too similar. The scat WB is lighter on its feet, and is nearly identical to the Hellcat. There was no reason to spend the extra cash. That and there is something special about having a big 6.4 versus the 6.2, even if it does have more power (with the supercharger).
 

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Either car is a good choice. The R/T is a excellent daily driver / street car / Weekend 1/4 mile drag Strip fun ride.

The Scat Pack is faster , burns more fuel and costs more. It's a great car , I own one but I don't daily Drive it
 

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Is there much of a difference in Fuel costs between the SCAT and R/T? I will be driving roughly 50miles one way. One thing I think I noticed was that the R/T appeared to be louder with the start up than the SCAT I could be wrong though.. Also some of the R/Ts I test drove seemed fully loaded with extra features like heated seats, and other things.
 

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I honestly didn't see much of a difference in fuel mileage between my 5.7 and 6.4. I do have the NAG1 5 speed and not the 8 so maybe there is more of a difference in the 2015+.
 
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Is there much of a difference in Fuel costs between the SCAT and R/T? I will be driving roughly 50miles one way. One thing I think I noticed was that the R/T appeared to be louder with the start up than the SCAT I could be wrong though.. Also some of the R/Ts I test drove seemed fully loaded with extra features like heated seats, and other things.

6.4 takes premium, plus more expensive brakes, possible insurance depending on situation.... that is the biggest difference from what I have heard. It also depends on how you drive, if you are daily driving it go 5.7. Too much to use even on the country roads unless you like to get tickets and possibly wreck in a 5.7 your doing 80 before you know it. I am upgrading to a scat pack widebody only because of the times and I have 2 other cars to daily. My wife has a 3rd car, I am a little obsessed with 4 wheels.

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6.4 takes premium, plus more expensive brakes, possible insurance depending on situation.... that is the biggest difference from what I have heard. It also depends on how you drive, if you are daily driving it go 5.7. Too much to use even on the country roads unless you like to get tickets and possibly wreck in a 5.7 your doing 80 before you know it. I am upgrading to a scat pack widebody only because of the times and I have 2 other cars to daily. My wife has a 3rd car, I am a little obsessed with 4 wheels.

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For me, it also came down to the aesthetics and bigger/wider wheels. Once I saw a WB in person, I was sold. The big price jump didn鈥檛 bother me. That and I was a deposit away from ordering a cat, so the SPWB was still less money.. 馃槀
 

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Is there much of a difference in Fuel costs between the SCAT and R/T? I will be driving roughly 50miles one way. One thing I think I noticed was that the R/T appeared to be louder with the start up than the SCAT I could be wrong though.. Also some of the R/Ts I test drove seemed fully loaded with extra features like heated seats, and other things.
My Daytona 5.7 averaged only about 1-2 MPG more than my SRT 392 - so not much of a difference. As mentioned though, the 6.4 requires premium whereas the 5.7 does not.
 

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I'll throw in my 2 cents here. I've owned both and I'm not as down on the 5.7 as others are.
I currently own a 21 Scat and really like it. It has all the options I originally wanted on my RT when I bought it new in 18.
The only reason i have a scat now is because of the crazy crap going on in the used market. I was able to sell my RT for crazy money and have the same payment on a Scat with more options because I got a lot more than I owed. So I was thrilled.
I loved my RT. It had plenty of power and was optioned pretty well. It really moved out when it needed to and never embarrased me unless I picked the wrong car to mess with. It will not keep up with current crop of GT's and SS's so you need to really careful..lol
Drove my RT from St.Louis to Yellowstone and back last year and it was an awesome drive. Set my trip meter for the trip and was averaging 30mpg on the way back (FOR THE WHOLE TRIP) at times. Finished out about 28mpg for the whole trip
Super comfy ride. Great highway car and great mileage for a V8.
I basically sold my RT outright to a Ford dealership. We were car shopping for my wife on a rainy day and took my charger. They told me they were going to buy my car whether we bought anything from them or not......I laughed.......they made their offer.
I was pulling the plates off about 20min later and they drove my wife and I home. About a 30min drive.
I found a new Scat onlinne that same day about an hour away. Called them and they quoted me 5000 under invoice. I put 500 down over the phone and picked it up about a week later.
I love the Scat Pack. It's the same color as my RT with more options and over 100hp more. And yes it is noticable just like everyone says. Night and day.
There is also a noticeable difference in gas mileage no matter what anyone says. Im in the pedal a lot more and my average mpg runs about 16 to 19 tops. The RT averaged about 21. Best average highway for the scat 24mpg, RT was about 27 to 28. Add the additional cost of premium and the fuel cost is significantly more.
The suspension is also stiffer on the scat. I made a couple trips to KC and back. Great riding car but not as good as the RT on long drives. Still a great cross country car but the RT was more plush riding and better for the long haul.
Insurance was also more in my case. But others have said theirs was the same. I can only speak for me.
Bottom line, you wont go wrong with either car. But, if you are power hungry you will desire the scat after you buy the RT. If you can be rational, the RT has more power than needed for 99% of people and their daily driving. Better gas mileage, little bit cheaper fuel, slightly better ride.

Three more things:
I loved my RT
I love my Scat more.
And I would not buy a used car right now, if that is what you are looking to do. Wait if you can.
 

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Is there much of a difference in Fuel costs between the SCAT and R/T? I will be driving roughly 50miles one way. One thing I think I noticed was that the R/T appeared to be louder with the start up than the SCAT I could be wrong though.. Also some of the R/Ts I test drove seemed fully loaded with extra features like heated seats, and other things.
Keep the 4 cylinder for a 鈥淢ostly Daily鈥 driver and get the Scat Pack as your trophy car.

The R/T is a nice large sedan and active exhaust from 2017 and up and sounds nice. But it鈥檚 still a rental car vs the 392 Hemi beast.

Many years back went in to buy a Toyota Camry as a daily driver. The salesman talked us into test driving a used Avalon we really were hesitant to drive because of the higher cost. Night and Day, the V6 Camry was junk. Went thru 2 Avalon鈥檚 as daily drivers.

Still have one cuz I鈥檓 not taking the Scat to the super market,pharmavy, Home Depot etc so some idiot can ding it up or back into it and run.:mad:
 

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I'll throw in my 2 cents here. I've owned both and I'm not as down on the 5.7 as others are.
I currently own a 21 Scat and really like it. It has all the options I originally wanted on my RT when I bought it new in 18.
The only reason i have a scat now is because of the crazy crap going on in the used market. I was able to sell my RT for crazy money and have the same payment on a Scat with more options because I got a lot more than I owed. So I was thrilled.
I loved my RT. It had plenty of power and was optioned pretty well. It really moved out when it needed to and never embarrased me unless I picked the wrong car to mess with. It will not keep up with current crop of GT's and SS's so you need to really careful..lol
Drove my RT from St.Louis to Yellowstone and back last year and it was an awesome drive. Set my trip meter for the trip and was averaging 30mpg on the way back (FOR THE WHOLE TRIP) at times. Finished out about 28mpg for the whole trip
Super comfy ride. Great highway car and great mileage for a V8.
I basically sold my RT outright to a Ford dealership. We were car shopping for my wife on a rainy day and took my charger. They told me they were going to buy my car whether we bought anything from them or not......I laughed.......they made their offer.
I was pulling the plates off about 20min later and they drove my wife and I home. About a 30min drive.
I found a new Scat onlinne that same day about an hour away. Called them and they quoted me 5000 under invoice. I put 500 down over the phone and picked it up about a week later.
I love the Scat Pack. It's the same color as my RT with more options and over 100hp more. And yes it is noticable just like everyone says. Night and day.
There is also a noticeable difference in gas mileage no matter what anyone says. Im in the pedal a lot more and my average mpg runs about 16 to 19 tops. The RT averaged about 21. Best average highway for the scat 24mpg, RT was about 27 to 28. Add the additional cost of premium and the fuel cost is significantly more.
The suspension is also stiffer on the scat. I made a couple trips to KC and back. Great riding car but not as good as the RT on long drives. Still a great cross country car but the RT was more plush riding and better for the long haul.
Insurance was also more in my case. But others have said theirs was the same. I can only speak for me.
Bottom line, you wont go wrong with either car. But, if you are power hungry you will desire the scat after you buy the RT. If you can be rational, the RT has more power than needed for 99% of people and their daily driving. Better gas mileage, little bit cheaper fuel, slightly better ride.

Three more things:
I loved my RT
I love my Scat more.
And I would not buy a used car right now, if that is what you are looking to do. Wait if you can.
There are several things that don't add up for this...
  1. whether or not you received a "good" deal isn't determined by the change (or lack of) of monthly payment.
  2. $5,000 under invoice or under MSRP? That does include that money from Dodge? Using a fairly optioned ScatPack, $5,000 is still well under employee pricing, even with the $1,500 Dodge cash included. The less optioned a car is, the most significant X dollar amount under invoice is. Most dealers aren't going to give those types of numbers right now, especially on a unit in stock.
  3. Did you shop around/inquire with others what they would purchase your car for? Seems unlikely to jump ship at the first offer, and have that be the best option..

Your description between the RT and the ScatPack is accurate IMO. I honestly think that many people would be satisfied with the RT, especially with those who hadn't driven something faster.
 

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Keep the 4 cylinder for a 鈥淢ostly Daily鈥 driver and get the Scat Pack as your trophy car.

The R/T is a nice large sedan and active exhaust from 2017 and up and sounds nice. But it鈥檚 still a rental car vs the 392 Hemi beast.

Many years back went in to buy a Toyota Camry as a daily driver. The salesman talked us into test driving a used Avalon we really were hesitant to drive because of the higher cost. Night and Day, the V6 Camry was junk. Went thru 2 Avalon鈥檚 as daily drivers.

Still have one cuz I鈥檓 not taking the Scat to the super market,pharmavy, Home Depot etc so some idiot can ding it up or back into it and run.:mad:

That's like saying you walked in wanting to buy a Dart, and walked out with a Charger. :ROFLMAO: Not in regards to just the performance so much, but the Camry and Avalon aren't ones to be cross-shopped either. Camry's are decent for what they are, but they are typically very basic. Completely different vehicles serving a different group of consumers.
 

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You can't go wrong with either car. I currently have a 5.7 2017 RT and it has more power than needed for daily driving. If your daily commute includes rush hour traffic and congestion the extra power won't mean much and the extra fuel expense will add up over time. The Scat is a great car and a step up but it really depends on what you are using the car for and what your expectations and budget are. If you drove both and couldn't tell the difference go with the one that makes the most financial sense to your pocket book. People will give all kinds of advice but at the end of the day you will be the one that has to write the check or make the monthly payments. Choose the one you like more and be happy. Remember most of the people you pass on the highway will wish they had a Charger.
 

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That's like saying you walked in wanting to buy a Dart, and walked out with a Charger. :ROFLMAO: Not in regards to just the performance so much, but the Camry and Avalon aren't ones to be cross-shopped either. Camry's are decent for what they are, but they are typically very basic. Completely different vehicles serving a different group of consumers.
Yeah this was like 20 years ago. I was looking for a reliable car not a performance vehicle. Was coming off a 4 banger Honda Accord.
 

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@jashaun Check out my man Hemi Muscle on YouTube鈥 his starting tag line 鈥淲elcome back to the channel, Welcome back to the channel.鈥 (y)

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCCoysSwil6cNLhqiEYuSQnw

He had an R/T and upgraded to a Scat Pack (Widebody). Awesome Octane Red.

R/T is no slouch and the reason I have a Charger at all after driving one several times. And why I have pretty much what Hemi Muscle has now.

The big Power Dollar rebates are gone and don鈥檛 expect them to come back. It makes no sense to buy used and with Chip Shortage into next year don鈥檛 expect the crazy used pricing to improve much anytime soon.

Widebody Nation has good coverage on current trends on price and incentives.
 

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There are several things that don't add up for this...
  1. whether or not you received a "good" deal isn't determined by the change (or lack of) of monthly payment.
  2. $5,000 under invoice or under MSRP? That does include that money from Dodge? Using a fairly optioned ScatPack, $5,000 is still well under employee pricing, even with the $1,500 Dodge cash included. The less optioned a car is, the most significant X dollar amount under invoice is. Most dealers aren't going to give those types of numbers right now, especially on a unit in stock.
  3. Did you shop around/inquire with others what they would purchase your car for? Seems unlikely to jump ship at the first offer, and have that be the best option..


  1. For me it was a good deal. I had a set monthly payment I was not willing to go over when I bought my RT in 2018. Around $500. The car stickered at $40,000 and got it for around $35,000. Details escape me as it was 3 years ago. Fast forward to late April this year, car had 35000 miles and dealership offered $30,000. Keep in mind this was back in late April, the used car craziness wasnt as well known. I took the RT a couple times last year was lucky to get $24000 on trade with less miles. So yes, I took the first offer. I owed around $22000. Found my Scat with same color, alcantera, technology package. no sunroof. Stickered at $50000 and told me they would sell it to me for $45,000 and some change OTD. With my equity from my RT as a down payment I was able to keep
    my payment down and get the scat with more options. Accepting the fact I was starting my loan time over of course. Hope this explains thing a little better.
    Yeah I could have held out for a better deal but I new that F8 scat was in transit to the other dealer and didnt want to miss it. I'm happy
 

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@jashaun Check out my man Hemi Muscle on YouTube.

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCCoysSwil6cNLhqiEYuSQnw

He had an R/T and upgraded to a Scat Pack (Widebody). Awesome Octane Red.

R/T is no slouch and the reason I have a Charger at all after driving one several times. And why I have pretty much what Hemi Muscle has now.

The big Power Dollar rebates are gone and don鈥檛 expect them to come back. It makes no sense to buy used and with Chip Shortage into next year don鈥檛 expect the crazy uses pricing to improve much anytime soon.

Widebody Nation has good coverage on current trends on price and incentives.
Yeah, I don't see Dodge brining the power dollars back anytime in the foreseeable future. There simply is no reason too, as you had said.
 

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Was hoping on the power bucks so I could upgrade from the Scat to a Redeye will probably still happen.
Probably wait till after the first of the year and order a 22 unless I can get a deal on a 21
 
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