Thanks for all the feedback. So if they offered $2k off in addition to the $4750 rebate, would that be a deal most of you could live with?
It's loaded with options:
Plus Group
Technology Group
Dynamics Package
Driver Convenience Group
Adaptive Suspension
Sunroof
Pirelli Summer Tires
On the sticker I saw that it was marked up almost $5k from MSRP, but they haven't tried pushing that price on me and after more discussions, they seem willing to negotiate... a little.
That is basically the same build I got, except I didn't get the summer tires. I think MSRP should be about $51.5k, or so, right?
I ordered my car through a dealer that was willing to give me 4% below invoice which was about $4,300 off MSRP, in addition to the Power Dollars Rebate. However, no dealer I spoke to (and I spoke to many, all across the country) was willing to discount more than $2k or so off a car they already had on the lot.
At $2k off, it seems your dealer is willing to let it go for just about invoice pricing. So, off the bat, you're getting $6,850 ($4,850 rebate + $2k discount) MSRP, which I don't think is a bad deal at all. Basically, you're paying nearly $5k below invoice price. If you are a member of PenFed credit union or if your employer uses ADP for payroll, you might also be eligible for an additional coupon off of new Dodge vehicles. Last I checked, the PenFed discount is $1,000, and the ADP one is $500. This stacks on top of the Power Dollars, meaning you'd save up to a total of $7,350 - $7,850.
In my opinion, I think for mid-$40's, the car is an incredible value. I can't think of anything else you can buy for that price (new) that would come close - at least in terms of the overall package, i.e. size, looks, performance, features, etc.
I think the closest things in terms of performance would be something like a Mustang GT w/ GT Perf. Package or a 2SS Camaro, but those are much smaller cars and less comfortable as well albeit faster. Another option might be the Kia Stinger GT1 that also MSRP's for mid-$40's, but you'd be down on performance, and as much as people might look down on Dodge as a brand, I have to imagine that goes doubly for Kia (and I'm Korean). Also, I'm not sure the Kia is actually all that much nicer inside than the Dodge in terms of actual quality (although it probably looks it). In order to get something that has comparable performance and is actually more luxurious you'd probably have to get something like a BMW M340i - but that stickers for mid-high $50's and I doubt you get the dealers to sell it for less than low $50k's. So, now you're at $5k+ more that the Charger for a slightly smaller car, and still slower (in a straight line). I think you probably need to step up to something like the M550i to match the performance and space, but then you're well into Hellcat territory in terms of price.
tl;dr, mid-$40k's is a deal I could live with, assuming you like the car.