[boffki]

Hey guys,
I'm thinking about upgrading my 14" charger rt with ...

A) Scat pack stage-1 (CAI-Exhaust-PCM)

Or

B) Flowmaster Foce II exhaust - LMi CAI - Diablosport tuner

Which plan do you think is better???


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[EddieFL]

I'm getting the scat 1 so I'm biased but what I would say is that if you want to get those mods and then chill for a while as far as modding and keep the warranty, get the scat pack. If those mods are just the first stage of your plan and you really want to get into tinkering with tunes and more in depth modding I would go with your second option. Plenty of people in here with those types of upgrades, let us know what you get!

 

[702RN]

The scat pack options are way overpriced imo. You can get the same or better results by using quality aftermarket products.

The only upside to the scat pack is it's a mopar product so it will be warrantied.

 

[boffki]

Thanks guys
True, scat packs packages are so overpriced. That's why I was thinking about getting Option (B)...
On the other hand, option (A) wouldn't void my warranty.

One other thing, The Mopar exhaust, is it really From Corsa??


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[702RN]

Thanks guys
True, scat packs packages are so overpriced. That's why I was thinking about getting Option (B)...
On the other hand, option (A) wouldn't void my warranty.

One other thing, The Mopar exhaust, is it really From Corsa??


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A CAI will not void your warranty. The dealership would have to prove that the CAI caused whatever issue is in question in order for the void to occur. Now tuning your car will void the warranty...but if you flash it back to the stock tune they technically won't know it was tuned in the first place. I say this because the starscan tool they use can tell if the car's software has been flashed, but they have to be looking for it. If you are friendly with any of the guys in your dealer's service department they'll take care of you.

If you could buy the special Mopar PCM individually, then I would go that route. I'm hoping they'll re-release a performance Mopar TCM for the 11+ chargers. They had one for the '06-'10 but never made one available for the newer generations.

To answer your exhaust question, yes. The "Mopar" exhaust is made by Corsa. It used to be made by Borla but changed with the release of the 2011s. The Corsa is an excellent cat back. The fit and finish are second to none. However, it is pricey. Expect to pay 1200-1400 for it.

 

[boffki]

A CAI will not void your warranty. The dealership would have to prove that the CAI caused whatever issue is in question in order for the void to occur. Now tuning your car will void the warranty...but if you flash it back to the stock tune they technically won't know it was tuned in the first place. I say this because the starscan tool they use can tell if the car's software has been flashed, but they have to be looking for it. If you are friendly with any of the guys in your dealer's service department they'll take care of you.

If you could buy the special Mopar PCM individually, then I would go that route. I'm hoping they'll re-release a performance Mopar TCM for the 11+ chargers. They had one for the '06-'10 but never made one available for the newer generations.

To answer your exhaust question, yes. The "Mopar" exhaust is made by Corsa. It used to be made by Borla but changed with the release of the 2011s. The Corsa is an excellent cat back. The fit and finish are second to none. However, it is pricey. Expect to pay 1200-1400 for it.

Thanks that's very helpful.

Regarding the Mopar exhaust, i saw many Charger with Corsa exausts on YouTube. I didn't like their sound. They're too sharp and noisy. I prefer Flowmaster exausts. They give you a the true sound of an American muscle .. Don't you think??


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[Shots]

I ordered the Scat Pack through my buddy's dealership. He got me a crazy good price on it, so it was priced more like a pile of aftermarket parts, rather than the MSRP (I don't know if he's supposed to do that or not so I'm not saying exactly how much or where). Generally speaking though the SP is overpriced, but the appeal is the Bragging Rights. You get the cool emblem for your quarter windows, you know the parts were specifically selected for your car by engineers, and you have Mopar backing on them.

If I were paying full price, I'd probably just do it all aftermarket because I doubt the package is any better/worse than you could compile yourself. At least as far as the Stage 1 is concerned.

 

[702RN]

Thanks that's very helpful.

Regarding the Mopar exhaust, i saw many Charger with Corsa exausts on YouTube. I didn't like their sound. They're too sharp and noisy. I prefer Flowmaster exausts. They give you a the true sound of an American muscle .. Don't you think??


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Yeah I don't like Corsa's sound either, I feel they're too high pitched also.

Flowmaster does have a nice sound, very tame and opens up a little on acceleration.

I'm partial to SLP exhausts myself. They're a very strong muscle car sound as well; much louder than flowmaster. Give them a look on YouTube. There is the SLP Loudmouth 1 and loudmouth 2. The 2 is slightly more tame than the 1.

 

[Treehop]

The mopar exhaust is the corsa sport. The only difference is instead of CORSA written on the tips, they say MOPAR on them.

I went with the corsa xtremes because they dont have the mopar version.

If i were you, since yours is a 2014, i would go the SP1 route and keep the warranty in place.

 

[Shots]

......I'm partial to SLP exhausts myself. They're a very strong muscle car sound as well......

My brother had a SLP Loudmouth on his Mustang. That thing sounded wicked. Probably the best sounding modern car I've heard.


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Also wanted to add. It was outrageously loud though. Sounded good, but VERY loud.

 

[702RN]

My brother had a SLP Loudmouth on his Mustang. That thing sounded wicked. Probably the best sounding modern car I've heard.


EDIT:
Also wanted to add. It was outrageously loud though. Sounded good, but VERY loud.

Yes it's definitely LOUD. One of the loudest there is. It's not the system for someone who is conservative. My car with the slp and no cats shakes the whole house when it starts.

 

[Dough]

I have the scat pack 1 on my 100th anniversary car it's a great start. I have a shop locally and I bought the stuff my self and did it my self then took it to spreader to be signed off and entered into the computer.lgranted me and my dealership are close and they SEM my shop all of the custom work, other dealerships may do the same for you?

 

[boffki]

I have the scat pack 1 on my 100th anniversary car it's a great start. I have a shop locally and I bought the stuff my self and did it my self then took it to spreader to be signed off and entered into the computer.lgranted me and my dealership are close and they SEM my shop all of the custom work, other dealerships may do the same for you?

That's awesome, but I just know about the drone problem with most of aftermarket exhausts..that's actually sucks.

So, does the mopar exhaust that comes with the scat pack drone??


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[EddieFL]

I'm sure the guys that actually own the corsa/mopar stuff will chime in but I have researched this heavily and every review says these two have little to no drone. That is a reason I want the scat pack too, look up corsa sport (mopar rebadged this under their brand) for the charger on you tube and that is pretty much the sound you will get. Definitely a modern V8 sound, not the deep rumble of some of the other systems that have been mentioned. I like the modern sound though, I don't have a 440/426 under the hood lol. Those other systems sound awesome and classic but most have massive drone, the corsa/mopar ones do not and that's why I am leaning towards them myself. If you live and drive almost exclusively in the city then it shouldn't bother you much, but if you do any extended highway driving like me drone will be extremely annoying.

 

[AdWo2187]

First, look up the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act. Unless you buy an aftermarket CAI and that specifically leads to your cars headlights failing or whatever, you will have no warranty issues. Also, I am pretty sure they can't really tell if you tuned your car, they can see if certain adaptives have been reset which is a good indication, but you can justify that by saying you had your battery disconnected for some odd reason. Either way, they would have to look for it and unless you have a massive engine control problem, they wouldn't. Playing dumb works really well here, so does calling in every higher up at Chrysler if your dealer refuses warranty work.

Second, I have the Corsa Xtreme and they are not high pitched. It is a deep rumble at idle and it almost sounds like I have a cam. They are raspy, which can understandably be confused for high pitched, but it sounds good. It is quiet enough at idle, which means it does make the house vibrate a bit when it's in the garage, but it sounds mean when you get on it. MEAN. So go for the Corsa/Mopar, absolutely no drone. Unless they make an Xtreme version, then go for that. I might have drone around 80 MPH but with the radio up at a comfortable level I can't tell, and honestly I'm not even sure if I do have drone because I haven't really tried to listen for it since I drove it the first time. I think drone hides from this exhaust because it sounds so good. Also, I have a nearly ancient 6.1 SRT, so your mileage may vary, but I don't think it will by much.

 

[scat913]

drone

That's awesome, but I just know about the drone problem with most of aftermarket exhausts..that's actually sucks.

So, does the mopar exhaust that comes with the scat pack drone??


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[scat913]

I have been looking at getting the stage 1 also for little while now. Just an fyi. I talked with someone at dodge tech support a couple of months back and asked if the exhaust was made by Corsa. The tech confirmed it was but that the Mopar version had a patented design added to deal with the drone caused by the MDS systems that the automatic 5.7's have.

 

[boffki]

I have been looking at getting the stage 1 also for little while now. Just an fyi. I talked with someone at dodge tech support a couple of months back and asked if the exhaust was made by Corsa. The tech confirmed it was but that the Mopar version had a patented design added to deal with the drone caused by the MDS systems that the automatic 5.7's have.

You're right. Few days ago, I knew that the Mopar exhaust is actually Corsa Sport. So I saw their website
www.corsaperformance.com
And they are claiming that they did some technology to delete the drone. And according to some Charger owners, who have cosa exhaust, you almost can't hear any drone especially when the radio is on


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[SnowMonkXV]

A few months back I bought a '14 R/T AWD (First new Car), and I'm waiting till spring to start with all the personalizing. I really like the Scat packs, and Stage 1 has everything a first owner new car mod should have. However, other then the cost, the only deterrent I have are the Hp claims the Stage 1 supposedly gets you. 18 horse for ~2,200$? Surly a decent CAI and Cat back exhaust from the aftermarket should net you that alone, set-aside a new ECU. I wonder how accurate these power gains truly are.

 

[Shots]

Probably pretty close, but yes you can piece together aftermarket parts to get the same results for less. The biggest difference would be you would just have to get a tuner to adjust the stock PCM, whereas the SP1 comes with a new one.

On a related note. Most aftermarket companies claim each mod will gain X hp, and people just add it all up and expect that to be the gain. Those gains are generally figured off stock hp, not off a modified hp from other parts. So for example if an intake, exhaust, and tuner all claim to add 15 hp each (to use easy numbers), people think that adding all three mods will net them 45 hp gain. It sounds logical, but for some reason it doesn't seem to add up like that. At least not that I've seen over many years of modding (including Mustangs, which have a HUGE market of customization). I'm inclined to believe Dodge's claim of 18 hp because it doesn't seem inflated/exaggerated.