[Patrick Caffrey]

So my friend bought an sti suburu....he wants to challenge my stock rt on the track.would I be wasting my time..don't want to be humiliated....especially not by this guy!!
Thanks in advance

 

[Patrick Caffrey]

My charger Is 2014 5.7 hemi 370hp

 

[MoparAddict2-14s]

You might want to atleast jump online and overnight a Cold Air and a Diablo tuner, just in case. LOL

On the track, that would be a race I would like to know the outcome of. AWD Subaru gives him a good advantage, but charger R/T's don't spin too much from a dig on the road, I wouldn't think it would spin much at the track.

Someone with some track experience with the chargers should chime in....

 

[MoparAddict2-14s]

Ive got the same car. Welcome to the forum!

 

[x111103]

Need more information.

What model R/T do you have?
What year is his?
Is the Subaru bone stock?

 

[RT_HEMICHARGED]

At the track, the Subaru will get the launch all day. The STI has 305hp in stock trim. The Charger is also a bit heavier than the STI so that's going to slow you down even more on launch. I know that from a roll the R/T will take the STI all day.

 

[Ddaddy]

If that Subaru is stock, he is capable of a 13.8xxx 1/4 mile at best.

You should be able to take him. but it will be a race right up to the last few hundred feet. He will likely pull ahead at the beginning but you should be able to reel him in and close the door at the finish line by about 3-4 car lengths or so.

All of that assumes you are both good drag track drivers. If not, all bets are off since the race will go to the best driver.

 

[cuda]

Assuming you are talking about a drag track, not a road course track......If you smoke the tires.......you will more than likely lose. He's lighter and has AWD, and he will get a hole shot as said by Ddaddy and RT Hemicharged. Assuming he knows how to drive you may not overcome that. Now, if you had AWD, that could be a much different outcome.

If you are talking about a road course track.....forget it. He will own you unless he is a tool.

 

[Mean R/T]

Sti will beat a rt at track or drag race as long as the sti driver is good at driving manual. And with a simple tune they make a lot of hp and tq.

 

[EddieFL]

It heavily depends on what model year STI he has, the older ones are the quickest, newer ones got heavier as they got more "civilized" Older gens were timed at 4.5 seconds to 60 and low 13s at the quarter mile. He will get you on the initial launch like all above have said and you need to launch yours perfectly to keep up and pass him. If it is a newer STI the race will be close though, the driver will matter more than .1 or.2 differences to 60 and the 1/4. At a road course he will win unless he is a tool like Cuda said lol.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0512_rally_cars/specs_price.html

 

[Patrick Caffrey]

Thanks guys.i going to hold off until i do s few mods . maybe just a cai and tune..would like to upgrade exhaust but don't want to increase the noise level by much.is this even possible??

 

[jim383]

Hey its just a race and if you get beat so what just go have a good time and good luck.

 

[rob-2]

STI stock will beat you all day long, road course or drag strip.

 

[2fast4u2013]

I disagree with you Rob-2...Like most others have said off the line yea but with an experienced driver the Charger can come back and win before the end of the 1/4 mile. If he REALLY wanted to win he could throw some slicks on there or some very very sticky street tires...It's amazing on what tires can do for a launch...on a road course the charger has too much baggage to throw around (4200 pounds) and it is considered a "Muscle Car" which means it wasn't meant for cornering..if you want a corner car save up some more money and buy the Viper.

 

[rob-2]

I hate to internet race, but if we're discussing 'stock' then here are the facts. Like for like with 2015 to 2015.

STI (2015 305hp)
Weight 3405
Power to weight 11.2
0-60 4.8s
1/4 mile 13.3
http://www.caranddriver.com/subaru/wrx-sti

Charger rt (2015 370 hp)
Weight 4381
Power to weight 11.8
0-60 5.1
1/4 mile 13.6
http://www.caranddriver.com/dodge/charger

I love my charger guys but I'm not going to be foolish enough to tell you that a car with almost 1,000lbs and only 65 more HP is going to pull on an AWD machine. The fact is the charger is a fatty. Not only is the STI faster, it also handles better, out brakes and pulls more in a turn. Now an SRT 392 will out perform drag and track compared to the STI. With equal brakes and more straight line the STI will do well in the corners and suffer in the straights.

What the STI cannot do nicely is take a family of 4 on a road trip with all their gear for a week in the trunk with room to spare.

 

[EddieFL]

I hate to internet race, but if we're discussing 'stock' then here are the facts. Like for like with 2015 to 2015.

STI (2015 305hp)
Weight 3405
Power to weight 11.2
0-60 4.8s
1/4 mile 13.3
http://www.caranddriver.com/subaru/wrx-sti

Charger rt (2015 370 hp)
Weight 4381
Power to weight 11.8
0-60 5.1
1/4 mile 13.6
http://www.caranddriver.com/dodge/charger

I love my charger guys but I'm not going to be foolish enough to tell you that a car with almost 1,000lbs and only 65 more HP is going to pull on an AWD machine. The fact is the charger is a fatty. Not only is the STI faster, it also handles better, out brakes and pulls more in a turn. Now an SRT 392 will out perform drag and track compared to the STI. With equal brakes and more straight line the STI will do well in the corners and suffer in the straights.

What the STI cannot do nicely is take a family of 4 on a road trip with all their gear for a week in the trunk with room to spare.

Oh absolutely with a 15 vs a 15 and with both cars driven flawlessly the STI will win, but the OP never specified which STI version he's talking about, and nobody is claiming the Charger R/T is the fastest car ever lol, it certantly has it's limitations. The pre-15s STIs were slower than those times and slower than the 2006s, so like I've said before it definitely depends on which version he is talking about. Regardless, .3 is significant in the quarter mile but not a massive enough gap that it can't be left to driver skill, plenty of rookies like myself out there that go to the track and can't extract what the car is technicaly capable off. So just go out there OP and race against yourself, don't worry about what's on the other lane because in a drag strip there is a 95% chance that the car next to you will be modified and faster than you anyways lol, so just go have fun!

 

[Shots]

....... Regardless, .3 is significant in the quarter mile but not a massive enough gap that it can't be left to driver skill, plenty of rookies like myself out there that go to the track and can't extract what the car is technicaly capable off.......

THIS is exactly it. The 2 cars in question (assuming both stock) are close enough that it's going to come down to the driver. People "internet race" all the time, and think they will match the times listed on the specs. Truth is most people don't. The driver is a big factor, that internet racers forget about. A crappy driver in a great car, can lose to a good driver in a decent car. ← Not implying anything about either car or driver in the proposed race, just pointing out the influence of drivers that people forget.

Assuming both are '15s, yes the Subaru is faster on paper, but races don't happen on paper. Go to the track and find out. Unless one of you completely sucks, it will at least be close enough that neither of you will be humiliated (as your fist post showed concern with). Maybe you lose, maybe you don't.
I've found that most people who go on and on about the the mfg specs, Car & Driver tests (or other magazine/web page), etc rarely have the ability to duplicate those results. It's always "my car can do...." not "my car has done....". Notice the difference there is what it's capable of and what you're capable of doing with it.

At the end of the day, neither of you are race car drivers, and neither of you are driving a race car. So don't take it too serious. Go, have fun, make a day of it, that's why the tracks are there. :beerchug:

 

[Patrick Caffrey]

Thanks guys for the Responses.
My charger is 13 and the sti is 14.
I know that there are a few upgrades on his car. ...exhaust. cai and a tune.
I'll go to the track with him just to see what my car is putting out but at least I know now not to be disappointed if I lose.

 

[rob-2]

Will you update us?