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Took the car on fairly long road trip this past weekend and figured that I'd post my impressions and findings for everyone. I spent the weekend in Newport, RI and decided to take the Charger instead of the Acura (2002 TL-S). I assumed that I'd pay dearly for that in the fuel economy department, but was actually quite surprised. Regardless, I left from north of Detroit on Thursday evening after deciding that we'd take the long route, to Rhode Island, across the Ohio Turnpike, across PA and NJ on I-80 to I-95, up through New York City and on to Rhode Island. Car had ~1500 miles on it as we left.
Fuel economy was actually quite good. 850 miles in just over 12 hours according to the computer, so including construction, stopping/starting for fuel, spirited high speed runs with a WRX on the OH turnpike, and dealing with NYC traffic, I averaged 70mph. Before hitting NYC, the computer said average fuel economy was 25.0mpg, after NYC into Newport in Friday traffic, fuel economy dipped a little, but final average for the trip out was 24.9mpg. Not bad for a 4000+lb sled through the mountains.
As for the ride itself, after spending so much time in the car, I better appreciate some of the features. Power pedals are great when you've been sitting in the car for what seems like forever: move the seat back, put the pedals all the way out and you have plenty of room to stretch you legs with the cruise set. The interior of these cars is amazingly quiet. Just a slight hum from the motor/exhaust in the cabin and no road noise, which was great for the girlfriend who slept most of the way....made my life staying awake a little more difficult though.
The car drew plenty of looks on the highway as well as once we got into town. Nothing quite as funny as a thick New England accent saying "hey look, its ah Chahgah." Michigan gives 7 letters on its personalized plates. I may go with "Chahgah."
Car did similarly well on the way back. 24mpg with a little more playing on the turnpike getting home. Made it home from Buffalo (through PA and OH) without stopping for gas.
One thing that I did notice while everyone else was sleeping and I was transfixed by the Average MPG display is that the car does much better once it has fully warmed up. Obivously cars will get better fuel mileage once they are up to operating temp and out of open loop mode, but my car would go nearly 2 hours from startup at the same average economy, then without change it would slowly start to creep upward. Also, I got better mileage out of it with 87 octane than I did when I filled up with 89.
Good trip, good car. Now, its time for an oil change!
 

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my wife will be glad to hear that!....She said it will be a gas whore.Now if the car only gets here.........
 

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Ryan,

Thanks for the post. These days I'm like a sponge who will soak up any information I can get on the car. It's nice to hear about your experience with the mileage during your trip. I expected it to be much worse. I guess that MDS system is the real deal. :)
 

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Ryan,

Thanks for the post. These days I'm like a sponge who will soak up any information I can get on the car. It's nice to hear about your experience with the mileage during your trip. I expected it to be much worse. I guess that MDS system is the real deal. :)
You're very welcome! I too had expected worse and figured that I would have been better off in the Acura, but it would have been a tossup. The Charger has a bigger tank as well, so I had to stop fewer times. The MDS does really seem to do its job.
I failed to mention that after the trip and letting the car sit for a day, it feels far stronger than it did before I left. Just a hair over 3000 miles on it now and I'm ready for a cool night to take it to the track and see what it can do before I start tinkering.
 

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Hi Ryan,
Did you by chance check the MPG by deviding the miles driven by gall. used at fill up, the reason why I ask is because those computers are not always right. My truck sometimes is dead on and other times almost 3 MPG off.
 

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I hadn't bothered to compute it, trusting the computer, but here goes: first fillup was west of State College in PA. Wasn't low on fuel yet, but I was ready to stop and put in 15.x gallons. Filled up again, low on fuel in RI, 17.x gal. Add in the fuel used from fillup to hotel and call it 34 gallons total. While not scientific, it'll compute to darn close to 25mpg as well.
 

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RT-DAYTONA-RT said:
Hi Ryan,
Did you by chance check the MPG by deviding the miles driven by gall. used at fill up, the reason why I ask is because those computers are not always right. My truck sometimes is dead on and other times almost 3 MPG off.
do you manually reset your truck's MPG calculator when you fill it up?
 

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Hope I get mine soon so I can get any kind of mileage :)
 

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elcapitan,

Lots of great info there. How do you find the Charger in comparison to your Acura? I have a 2001 TL and have just been dying with the price of 91 octane in SoCal. On average, I've only been getting 17-18MPG in the TL (with "spritited" driving) and from your and other posts it sounds like the hemi's are getting that easily, even with lead feet. My test drive of the Charger RT also felt at least as smooth and quiet as the Acura from what I recall, but with a helluva lot more oomph.

My Charger can't arrive too soon!
 

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mnunes said:
How do you find the Charger in comparison to your Acura? I have a 2001 TL and have just been dying with the price of 91 octane in SoCal.
I can't remember ever putting 91 octane in the TL :) Both cars are very nice, but the Charger has a little better room and I prefer the seats to those in the Acura. Power in both cars is great, but I'm partial to having the correct wheels driving the car. Lots of torque steer in the Acura. Highway mileage is pretty similar between the two cars, while the Acura is better in traffic for my heavy right foot.
One thing that I didn't mention in my first post is that my average economy on the trip actually went up a few tenths after the bouts of "spirited driving." Maybe due to not touching the gas for a mile or so while coasting down from the speed limiter?
 

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I failed to mention that after the trip and letting the car sit for a day, it feels far stronger than it did before I left.
I felt the same way after driving from St. Louis to Florida...the next day it threw my head back- totally unexpected.
 

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Hi all, I have a used 2016 Charger SXT with 20'' tires. (I guess it is sport package). I fell a very bad driving on unevenness roads. I can feel all cracks on the road. Before, I rented a 2019 Charger that drives very smoothly and comfortable in any roads. So, I think sth is wrong with mine. Do you think the 20'' tire causes this difference compared with regular tires?My car is pre-owned certified. Do you think they should take care of suspension or springs?
 

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Put your VIN into this site to see what options you have:

My white Charger is the SXT Plus version with a "Touring Suspension", and the wife's purple Charger is the Rallye Edition with "Sport Suspension". Mine rides pretty smooth- only big cracks make an impact, but hers rides like Schizz -you can feel every bump in the road along with lots of noise. The only difference between the two suspension is the struts (I checked and all the springs have the same part number tag on them). Touring struts are $120 each, Sport struts only $65. BTW, mine came with 235x55x18 tires but I have 245x45x20 on it now and there is not a lot of difference in the ride on most roads, but the 20's handle a lot better.
 

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Sorry you had to experience the Pennsylvania portion of I-80. Nice views, but that road is kept in horrible condition.
 

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krautmaster

thank you for the replay. So do know any possibility that I can improve the suspension? As the car is still certified, is there any place that I can request to change to have better smooth driving?

Thank you
 

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krautmaster

thank you for the replay. So do know any possibility that I can improve the suspension? As the car is still certified, is there any place that I can request to change to have better smooth driving?

Thank you
About all you can do is either buy the factory touring struts (made by Sachs) and pay someone to install them, or get a set of 18" wheels/tires. Stay FAR away from cheap aftermarket struts like Monroe or Gabriel (cheap crap) and quality aftermarket struts like Bilstein or Eibach are stiffer than what you already have and will make the ride even worse.

There may be some folks on the forum with an SE or SXT model that will swap their touring struts for your sport models....
 

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About all you can do is either buy the factory touring struts (made by Sachs) and pay someone to install them, or get a set of 18" wheels/tires. Stay FAR away from cheap aftermarket struts like Monroe or Gabriel (cheap crap) and quality aftermarket struts like Bilstein or Eibach are stiffer than what you already have and will make the ride even worse.

There may be some folks on the forum with an SE or SXT model that will swap their touring struts for your sport models....

Thank you very much for your suggestion. Could you let me know how much is MPG of your car and your wifes car? Mine is very terrible 15 in city and 22 in highway. Is it in the range for sxt with sport package, 20-inch ring tires?
 

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My wifes is a Rallye with 245x45x20s tires and an AFE Momentum GT CAI /with Hellcat air duct, it gets 20 mpg city, 33-34 highway at 75-80 mph. Mine is an SXT Plus with 245x45x20 tires, the same AFE Momentum GT CAI /with Hellcat air duct, Solo Performance J pipe exhaust, and now a PUG lower intake manifold. I get 20-22 city, 35-37 highway at 75-80 mph (it gets better mileage at that speed than it does at 65, as it stays in 8th gear most of the time). The EVIC fuel mileage readout in hers is about 1.5 mpg optimistic, mine only about 1/2 mpg.
Mine will also kick the schizz out of hers in a race (the Solo Exhaust doing it's thing).
 

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