Damn this awesome info(spectacular and probably mind blowing to those guys at the shop) made me miss this pale redhead i was checking out, yum!
But the 110 octane made more power than the straight 91 octane did.How about some more information that would apply, like both dynamic and static compression. Lower octane making more power is nothing new if the compression isn't there to support race fuel.
I will find out the static and dynamic compression on the engine from him and also what 110 it was as a baseline.There's a long way between 91 oct and 110. Also what 110 was it ? Leaded , unleaded , oxygenated? Justcause Iit made less power on pump doesn't disprove my statement. Aftermarket additives such as Torco will raise 91 octane to 100 when mixed right.Also just to clsrify.....we are talking less than 10 hp between the lowest pull on 91 and the highest on aces. If you can only gain 10 hp on fuel you don't need race gas.
MMT is the additive in these off the shelf boosters. MMT (Methyl cyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl) is a metal that doesn't burn but plate in the cylinders leaving your plugs impossible to read and also leaves the residue to polish your cylinders. You would get the same effect on your cylinders by pouring jewlers rouge in the intake!Actually yes Torco will raise octane that much. 32oz into 5 gallons gas is the mix.....ah crap you were right....it doesn't raise it 9, it raises it 14.
And Brian contrary to what you might believe I have tried your stuff. When you were giving it away like water at the 2009 LX&B at Quaker City. It did absolutely nothing and I actually saw a decrease in mileage.
careful with what you don't know.....at the time I was 700 miles away!And he lives so close, id understand halfway cross country but same area?
Maybe you missed David Vizards 250 hour back to back tests on 2 engines....1 with 91 octane fuel and 1 with 91 octane fuel and ACES IV:Brian,
With all due respect, A IV isn't going to lubricate cylinders. And even if you could come up with the physics to suggest it does, magical anti frictional compound isn't going to account for anything measurable. 10 HP is nothing. Outside air temp and barometric pressure could account for that much change, just by themselves.
Hemi31 is absolutely correct, racing fuel should have resulted in a much much larger HP change over 91 octane.
You offered when I was 700 miles away.....of course I turned you down....lol.The 598 by the way was 11.1 to 1 and the 110 was VP-110 leaded not oxygenated. So it did have the compression ratio to translate the race fuel and the street fuel.
We offered you an opportunity to openly bring your tuner and put your car on the dyno, add ACES IV and the dyno would prove it or disprove it with a 3rd party dynojet operator to be the referee.......FOR FREE! Again, you refused!
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Congratulations, you found the formula that we do for oil drilling trucks and pipeline gasoline vehicles in the arctic and really cold temps. That is not what we make for the domestic market. What you found is for really really cold temps -60 deg C and below!So would the lube be the Paraffin wax or the hydrocarbon wax?
The 93 would have to be Shell and after May 5th. The E98 would be a different product than what you would use for the 93. E98 would need ACES IV-A and at somewhere between .5 oz per gallon and 2.3 oz per gallon. ACES IV would be at either 1 oz per 6 or 1 oz per 5 for lubricity using the blower.I would LOVE to put your additive in a supercharged car that LOVES C16/E98 way more then 93 pump.
But if you send some out I would run the cold pass with your mix and then back it up on a HOT PD blower car with 110/C16/E98 if you think your additive can stack up to ANY of the above I would be very, very, very impressed.
It does in my car-trucks. It turns into a lubricant in high heat. I was porting my srt manifold, took it several times, the color in the ports never changed. I started using aces IV and the next time I removed the manifold I noticed a difference. Starting several inches at the end of the intake ports and continuing to the port in the head all the way to the intake valve it looked like it had a small amount of lubricate coating. I guarantee if you pull your manifold, check the runners and ports then start using aces IV you will see what I have stated.Brian,
With all due respect, A IV isn't going to lubricate cylinders.
The difference is that with 91 octane fuel and ethanol, you have a danger of leaning to damage.The only thing that truly stands out to me is the AF ratios!!!
13.6:1 on the VP-110
14.6:1 on 91 pump
14.7:1 on 91 + Aces-IV
I can see the 110 running 13's, but the pump fuels running an additional point leaner?
I am hoping this is a typo, cause if they were lower by a point, it would make much more sense.
But, with 11:1, and not knowing the dynamic compression, it is feasible that this engine didn't need that much octane. I would have expected more delta hp increase from 91 to 110 if it was truly octane limited.