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Hi folks. Not sure if this should be in a current thread or not. Couldn't find one that fit my question. Any who...

If you make an alteration/upgrade to the drivetrain or suspension (such as headers, different exhaust, supercharging, etc), how does this effect the 36M/36K warrenty from DCx? Doesn't alterations void the warrenty?

I've been thinking that putting headers on with the R/T Perf Pkg would be a sweet setup. Just don't want to mess with warrenty issues.


BTW -- newbie here, a former '69 Charger SE owner (383, auto), have owned several MOPAR vehicles since, including my current car, an '02 Intrepid SXT. Looking forward to getting the kind of performance car I've always wanted, but was never able to swing the deal.
 

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ok.... all in all... it depends on the mod, and it depends on how good of a relationship you have with your local dealer...

Headers, you should not have an issue with, and cat-back exhaust will not give you any problem either....

The stock air box however must remain intack, but you can run whatever filter you choose... (although basically everyone who is running aftermarket CAI has no issues from dealers... this is what the manufacturers say)

If you change the suspension, you will void any affected suspension warrenty, PLUS drivetrain, as you are changing the factory angles of the rear axle halfshafts.

Even though there is the magnussen-moss act, which allows you to do do mods, with no worry about warrenty issues... the true coverage of this act is limited...

As far as dealers.... well.... I would get to know the Service Manager of your local dealer... this is what normally do if I move, or buy a new vehicle of a different brand.... and with my current truck it has helped me out...

I am running a cat-back, 3" body lift, ford keys on the front cranked 2" (so 5" lift in front, 3" lift in the back.... truck sits level.) electric fan conversion, dual battery system, 325/60-18" tires... and many many more...

Blew my tranny... covered under warrenty.... Blew the cat's..... covered under warrenty.... had 2 computer modules go bad on the 4x4 system...... covered under warrenty.... replaced Pitman and Idler arm.... not covered under warrenty... (normal wear and tear part... especially with over sized tires)

So you can do things to your vehicle... and still be covered... or you can do things that will not be.... always check with your local Service Manager before doing mods to see what will be affected....

The only reason my tranny was covered is I did a 3" body lift.... so stock driveline angles were retained. (front was changed, but I didnt tell them that)

If I had a suspension lift, I would have paid for the tranny.... (they tried to use the lift as a reason for GM not to pay.)

So if you are concered about warrenty.... be carefull... if you dont care, or have been fishing/hunting buddies with your local SM or Dealer Rep..... then do motor swaps or whatever you choose... LOL
 

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Here's the simple answer: in order to deny your warranty claim, the dealership (or manufacturer) must be able to show that the modification CAUSED the failure, by law.

For example, if you put a cat-back exhaust on, and blow a head gasket, clearly the exhaust didn't cause the gasket to blow. On the other hand, if you put some god-awful heavy 22" rims, and have anything go wrong with the suspension, brakes, transmission, they CAN (don't have to, but CAN) deny your warranty, b/c heavy rims can cause a LOT of damage.

The Magnusen Moss Act clarified this, here's a good summary: http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm

RT
 

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Thanks for the info guys.
 

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RT, that is indeed the legality of it. The reality is more in line with Daytonas post, though. While it's easy to say that the exhaust didn't cause didnt cause the head gasket to blow, how far are you willing to go to prove it?

Are you willing to retain counsel, and go for weeks without your car (remember, they did the repair, and hold a mechaincs lein against you paying for the repairs) while it goes back and forth between you, the dealer and regional rep?

I've watched the SRT-4 community deal with this issue for two years now, and the reality is not as cut and dried as the Moss act would have you believe.

I've seen guys with the boost turned up to 20 (ridiculously high) on a stock car get new motors, guys with rubbers from slicks still in the wheelwell get new axles, while a guy with just a Mopar Stage 1 kit and a Mopar BOV gets to buy his own motor after 6 weeks of fighting.

It's all about your dealer, and how they view your mods.
 

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RT, that is indeed the legality of it. The reality is more in line with Daytonas post, though. While it's easy to say that the exhaust didn't cause didnt cause the head gasket to blow, how far are you willing to go to prove it?

Are you willing to retain counsel, and go for weeks without your car (remember, they did the repair, and hold a mechaincs lein against you paying for the repairs) while it goes back and forth between you, the dealer and regional rep?

I've watched the SRT-4 community deal with this issue for two years now, and the reality is not as cut and dried as the Moss act would have you believe.

I've seen guys with the boost turned up to 20 (ridiculously high) on a stock car get new motors, guys with rubbers from slicks still in the wheelwell get new axles, while a guy with just a Mopar Stage 1 kit and a Mopar BOV gets to buy his own motor after 6 weeks of fighting.

It's all about your dealer, and how they view your mods.
And that's just on Factory warranties...extended Warranties are even more strict, because they can set the rules as a condition of purchase...so then anymod could cause your expensive warranty to be void...
 
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