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has anyone tried installing an oil cooler like the B&M super cooler?
wondering if it would be helpful with all that heat sink we have going on.
wondering if it would be helpful with all that heat sink we have going on.
Well - it won't do anything other than increase the time it takes for the oil to reach 'operating' temperature.now what does an oil cooler do for a daily driver with medium modification(i.e. stock engine but most if not all other things) and an occasional track visit... as far as perf gains
does having cooler oil keep your engine cooler? i thought it needed a certain oil temp for a certain viscosity
does having cooler oil keep your engine cooler?
From posts I've seen it's a few degrees drop in avg oil temp.
i thought it needed a certain oil temp for a certain viscosity
from what I know true, but I don't think a few degrees is enough
to put you under the threshold there.
I think it's main purpose would be to help cool the engine off a
little faster after some abuse as well as keep it cooler during
extended high speed runs.
well to be honest, im not the most friendly driver out there. I like to DRIVE my car pretty hard. dont get me wrong though, i take care of her (change the oil every 1500) and i keep it clean. i just dont like it when its 100 degrees outside and i shut my car off after i run the poop out it racing some punk. the temp is always up 10 degrees. i would just feel safer with some more cooling. but i dont know. thats why i ask you more experienced guys.
OK - so when we tested fords (yes - I know - a swear word...) the engine oil was monitored on most of the 'harsh conditions' tests. For example, 40 Deg C ambient, with solar loading, 4th gear, WOT, 180kph. This test would be carried out for as long as was needed by the guys needing the data, or until the car blew up (I actually trashed the first RS Focus in the UK on the rolling road during testing.....). The results of engine, transmission, diff, battery etc were all monitored and assessed during and post testing. If the oil was getting too hot, it was back to the drawing board (oil cooler, bigger sump, etc). If it was steady state, then we were happy.well to be honest, im not the most friendly driver out there. I like to DRIVE my car pretty hard. dont get me wrong though, i take care of her (change the oil every 1500) and i keep it clean. i just dont like it when its 100 degrees outside and i shut my car off after i run the poop out it racing some punk. the temp is always up 10 degrees. i would just feel safer with some more cooling. but i dont know. thats why i ask you more experienced guys.
I'm assuming they did this as well. I'd also guess that it was very close to said tolerances so hence the oil cooler factory installed on the police package hemi.Now, I'm assuming that the testing of the Charger would have involved WOT at high ambients for extended periods of time - at high speed. If the car did not come with an oil cooler, it is highly likely that the various oils stayed within acceptable tolerances.
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That could have been fitted due to the Police vehicle potantially having to sit around at the side of the road at idle, with a loaded alternator (flashing lights/headlights etc) and the air-con going for hours on end in some of the hottest places on Earth/in the US. If the baseline requires that the vehicle be able to sit at +50 Deg C at idle, with full auxiliaries being used with added Solar Loading, then yes, the engine oil temp might keep creeping up. Then there's the potential for the same ambient conditons whilst in persuit (High load, high speed) for hours on end.I'm assuming they did this as well. I'd also guess that it was very close to said tolerances so hence the oil cooler factory installed on the police package hemi.
No - other than making the oil warm-up time extend. And cost money. And add extra weight (of the cooler/piping and I assume extra engine oil). Plus the oil system has just become more (unecessarily) complicated.so unless we have superchargers, lots of engine work and other mods theres the oil cooler will hurt our cars?
ok cool, so wont hurt the car, but unless I want to just spend/waste money its no point in getting it correct?No - other than making the oil warm-up time extend. And cost money. And add extra weight (of the cooler/piping and I assume extra engine oil). Plus the oil system has just become more (unecessarily) complicated.It won't (or shouldn't) hurt the car per se.
I believe that's what he's saying.ok cool, so wont hurt the car, but unless I want to just spend/waste money its no point in getting it correct?
hey brah, thanx for the timing belt post some time back! just finally got around to REFINDING it.Well - it won't do anything other than increase the time it takes for the oil to reach 'operating' temperature.
The oil cooler is added to engine to stop the oil continually operating over 160 Deg C (or thereabouts), cos this fecks it up. Which results in the oil not protecting the engine properly.
And you're right, the oil/engine are designed to work together in an 'optimum' temp area (or a tad below) to ensure that the viscosity of the oil is at it's best for the harshest of driving conditions.![]()
B&M SuperCoolers are 100% aluminum construction and use stamped plates sandwiched together to create one of the most efficient oil cooling devices available. Not only does this unique design provide for maximized cooling through more efficient heat dissipation but it also provides a much sturdier cooler which is practically impervious to flying rocks or other debris. The Super-Coolers intended for automatic transmission fluid also offer an additional feature known as “Low Pressure Drop”. The coolers assembled with hose barb ends include a unique bypass feature allowing a controlled amount of ATF to bypass the stacked plate core when the fluid is cold. This is beneficial in cold climate areas to guard against lube system failure. Controlled by viscosity, fluid is returned directly to the lube circuit through bypass openings in the stacked plate core. As the temperature increases, more ATF is directed through the core. This highly efficient design combines improved protection against lube system failure with the required levels of optimal heat transfer.
Well - it won't do anything other than increase the time it takes for the oil to reach 'operating' temperature.
And you're right, the oil/engine are designed to work together in an 'optimum' temp area (or a tad below) to ensure that the viscosity of the oil is at it's best for the harshest of driving conditions.![]()