New Charger,muscle car or not?
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I think the hemi chargers are muscle cars. No offense meant towards v6ers but they aren't muscle cars. they are a four door sedan. A DAMN GOOD LOOKING ONE THOUGH!!! :grin: Some may argue that the 3.5 makes more horsepower/torque than the old v8's but I just can't look at a v6 as a muscle car. I'm sorry, call me ignorant if you must but that is just my opinion. I still LOVE all LXers no matter what engine they have in them. So my answer is Hemi yes, v6 no. flame suit on
edit: and of course they are not labeled as coupes, they have 4 doors....
edit: and of course they are not labeled as coupes, they have 4 doors....
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No, I agree with u. I have a v-6 and no way would I consider it a muscle car but u are right no matter what engine u have they still look awesome IMO. I like to make it look good and sound good and thats about it. In no way would I say I have something I dont.
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Its a sedan on roids....lol
Its definitly not your ol man sedan.
Its definitly not your ol man sedan.
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I dont think they are. They look more like a sedan, not a slick sports car, but they sure as hell are goodlooking. The SRT maybe passes as a "muscle car", The Daytonas seem to sometimes b/c of their bright colors and flat black decals, But most people that dont live and breathe cars look at the charger as any other 4dr sedan. Take a look around at who you see driving alot of chargers, you will see all types of people, people that certainly dont fit the average "Muscle car" enthusiast stereotype
Now, my above statement is in reference to a stock charger, Chargers modded with exhaust, ram air hood, etc look SUPER MEAN and deff fit a "muscle car" label to me
I personally dont care what they are considered. I love this car
Now, my above statement is in reference to a stock charger, Chargers modded with exhaust, ram air hood, etc look SUPER MEAN and deff fit a "muscle car" label to me
I personally dont care what they are considered. I love this car
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Overall, yeah I guess I consider Chargers muscle cars. When one is modded it makes it that much easier to say "Now look at that muscle car".
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The new Hemi Chargers may not meet the old school definition of a Muscle Car, but times change and cars evolve. Pick any vehicle that has been around for quite a numer of years and just look at the different changes said model has gone through. IMO, the new Hemi Chargers are Modern Muscle.
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Exactly. Just remember, the original Charger eveolved from the Coronet, which was a 4 door. The side of the original Charger also had MORE than enough room to add a second set of doors.
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As long as my insurance remains low in comparison, I don't care what They consider.
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Tough call...
What would you consider a 1986-1987 Buick Grand National (or Regal T-type)?
I think it's psychological... the fact that the V6 I mentioned was the TOP performance option for that model (and a very valid one) makes us look beyond the number of cylinders. In contrast, the 140 hp Oldsmobile-built 307 V8 that was also offered in the Regal does NOT evoke the image of a musclecar.
Likewise, an old 318 2Bbl Charger does not come to mind when someone says Dodge musclecar, even if it was a V8. So if the 318 doesn't do it, the 383 might qualify in the minds of some people. I'm sure, though, that there are those who were spoiled by the really big inch V8s that might not be all that impressed by the 383, and maybe their idea of "musclecar" starts at the 440 and nothing less. (heck, someone here already tried to put the dividing line for the current Charger as being between the R/T and the SRT8!)
Anyone want to shift the discussion to where those 426 Hemi 4 door Coronets fit in with the description? :lol:
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Hmmm, I have to say that whoever "told" you (or anyone else) that, has never seen or better "heard" a Charger (V8) with its headers uncapped and burning up the pavement. If they had, Muscle Car would be the only words comin' outta their mouths :grin:
"idiots should remain silient, always, lest they open their mouths and remove all doubt...."
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4 door Muscle...what's wrong with that? Eliminates me having to remove my ass when someone wants to jump in the back seat! All hail 4 doors!
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I know mine is. Check my sig if you doubt my veracity.
Did a stock 440 Challenger do less than 13 seconds in the 1/4 mile? Line up the unmodded/untuned 440 at the track and let's see. I'll give you a 2 door head start!
Did a stock 440 Challenger do less than 13 seconds in the 1/4 mile? Line up the unmodded/untuned 440 at the track and let's see. I'll give you a 2 door head start!
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Anyone wanna tell me this sounds like anything other than a muscle car? This guy (not me) just got Corsas...
http://s82.photobucket.com/player.s...20Corsa%20Exhaust/MOV00575.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1
http://s82.photobucket.com/player.s...20Corsa%20Exhaust/MOV00575.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1
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Very nice, thanks for posting that.
Interestingly, that exhaust has a definite "brylcreem" sound texture to it, with the exception of the slight rasp overtone that is obvious at some RPMs, mostly on deceleration. No doubt this system attempts to muffle only a very narrow band of sound (to eliminate the prominence of rasp in the overall tone).
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The 66 Chargers had 4 bucket seats and it helped define the muscle car. I would say that the Chargers with HEMIs are for sure muscle cars. And the 3.5 V6's too. They just don't have the prestiege like the HEMI's do.
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Everyone who has seen my car in person calls it a hot rod, including my 80 year old mother in law, bless her soul. Muscle car is a word that seems to have fallen out of fashion, but hot rod.... oh yeaaaaaaaaaaaah
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To me a muscle car is really a '60s and '70s term. Therefore the new Chargers are really in a different class.
The term muscle car will always mean to me:
1)Crappy braking, handling and comfort
2)Lots of wheel smoke and loud exhaust
3)A ridiculously large motor with crappy fuel economy
4)Outrageous styling, spoilers, stripes, bulging hoods, vents, etc.
5)Rear wheel drive
6)Generally 2 doors
7)Relatively affordable price
I think the V8s have most of that but in general our cars are a little too refined (as stock) to be considered a muscle car in my opinion.
The term muscle car will always mean to me:
1)Crappy braking, handling and comfort
2)Lots of wheel smoke and loud exhaust
3)A ridiculously large motor with crappy fuel economy
4)Outrageous styling, spoilers, stripes, bulging hoods, vents, etc.
5)Rear wheel drive
6)Generally 2 doors
7)Relatively affordable price
I think the V8s have most of that but in general our cars are a little too refined (as stock) to be considered a muscle car in my opinion.
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