[hothouse]

Thinking about going with the CORSA CAI, I have held off on getting one as they really do not add much in the way of HP/TQ but they do spruce up the engine bay a bit. So just wondering if anyone here has any experience with them.

 

[POWERMAN]

Weird..thought you were going with the LMI....

I had an LMI True CAI on my 08 R/T and it was awesome. So because of past experience with LMI I am going that route, but Im like you Im not drilling on this baby!

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157088

Cold feet?

: p

 

[hothouse]

No cold feet at all, just won't do the True LMI because I have to cut into the car so the tube fits underneath. Thats the only reason I won't do it and also why I have held off for three years because the LMI is the way to go.

 

[mikeb33]

I have it, pretty nice. Adds a little sound, without booming. Seems more responsive too. As good a price as any other too.

I believe it is the exact same as the Volant, so look for info on that one too.

 

[hothouse]

Yeah I noticed it was similar to the Volant CAI kit. Really debating if I want to drop the cash for one or not when the gains just aren't there, but there isn't a tube made to replace the stock corrugated tube and it seems a CAI kit is the only way to do it. The stock box itself is very efficient but the stock tube cause some turbulence in the air flow being corrugated.

 

[Ddaddy]

Yeah I noticed it was similar to the Volant CAI kit. Really debating if I want to drop the cash for one or not when the gains just aren't there, but there isn't a tube made to replace the stock corrugated tube and it seems a CAI kit is the only way to do it. The stock box itself is very efficient but the stock tube cause some turbulence in the air flow being corrugated.

You can just make your own for around $75.

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115086&highlight=srt+airtube+mod

 

[jachael]

You can just make your own for around $75.

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115086&highlight=srt+airtube+mod

This looks great, but will it work for the 5.7L? Are the intake hose sizes the same?

 

[djtuzik]

it's the volant cai I believe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkdhKulE5cs

 

[Ddaddy]

This looks great, but will it work for the 5.7L? Are the intake hose sizes the same?

You can do it for the 5.7L, you just need to buy the couplers in the correct sizes. See the thread I linked for sourcing the parts.

 

[hothouse]

You can just make your own for around $75.

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115086&highlight=srt+airtube+mod

I can't, I tried. Not one company makes a tube that will work with the canted 392 intake. The angles are all wrong, they are either too angled or not angled enough and no one will custom make me one. The tube has to be made specifically for the intake and the only ones that are right come with CAI kits.

 

[Ddaddy]

I can't, I tried. Not one company makes a tube that will work with the canted 392 intake. The angles are all wrong, they are either too angled or not angled enough and no one will custom make me one. The tube has to be made specifically for the intake and the only ones that are right come with CAI kits.

Well you can, but you need to have the tube custom bent (just like bending exhaust tubing). You need to buy a straight tube long enough for bending and then get a shop to bend it to your angles and cut to length.

The alternative is to have the sections welded to create the angles or use multiple straight sections connected by hump hoses.

If you'd like, I can work with you to design one and help find the shops that can do the fabrication and/or bending.

 

[hothouse]

That sounds great, it was more the rubber hoses that were not the correct angles and I tried the bump hose too. I tried 5 different companies on the internet that make hoses for DIY CAI and running intercoolers and no luck. It isn't the straight aluminum tube that's the problem, I found one that would work great if I could find the rubber hose angled right to connect it to the intake manifold. I'll take any help you are willing to give.

 

[Ddaddy]

That sounds great, it was more the rubber hoses that were not the correct angles and I tried the bump hose too. I tried 5 different companies on the internet that make hoses for DIY CAI and running intercoolers and no luck. It isn't the straight aluminum tube that's the problem, I found one that would work great if I could find the rubber hose angled right to connect it to the intake manifold. I'll take any help you are willing to give.

PM me with the details and I'm sure we can find a solution.

 

[hothouse]

PM me with the details and I'm sure we can find a solution.

Ok will do.

 

[mikeb33]

I believe there's more to be gained than just a tube. The Donaldson filter is supposed to be superior at air flow and filtering and this one is huge, with easily twice the surface area than a stock filter.

 

[hothouse]

Never heard of Donaldson before. Plus I don't think a huge filter surface area is gonna make but so much difference. The throttle body will only flow but so much air as well as the tube leading to it.

 

[krautmaster]

Never heard of Donaldson before. Plus I don't think a huge filter surface area is gonna make but so much difference. The throttle body will only flow but so much air as well as the tube leading to it.

Take a look at the two different air cleaners in these photos of my 513 cube stroker...the 3.5" tall filter makes 20 more horsepower than the High Performance "Unsilenced" 2.75" tall filter

 

[hothouse]

Take a look at the two different air cleaners in these photos of my 513 cube stroker...the 3.5" tall filter makes 20 more horsepower than the High Performance "Unsilenced" 2.75" tall filter

So you dynode an extra 20hp out of a filter? That sounds a little much, I'm not saying I don't believe it don't misunderstand that but every CAI company out there uses a larger surface area filter than the stock configuration and they make claims of 20plus HP and no one I have heard of has seen that kind of increase, usually its more like 5hp if you are lucky. Now LMI's true CAI saw like 10hp increase but that's the most I have seen. I dynode my 08 R/T after I installed a CAI kit and saw 0 HP and 0 TQ increase from baseline. Now on a stroker motor you may see a better return for the simple fact of the modifications to the engine, but stock I don't think 20hp is there. Question, what kind of car is that stroker in by chance?

 

[krautmaster]

So you dynode an extra 20hp out of a filter? That sounds a little much, I'm not saying I don't believe it don't misunderstand that but every CAI company out there uses a larger surface area filter than the stock configuration and they make claims of 20plus HP and no one I have heard of has seen that kind of increase, usually its more like 5hp if you are lucky. Now LMI's true CAI saw like 10hp increase but that's the most I have seen. I dynode my 08 R/T after I installed a CAI kit and saw 0 HP and 0 TQ increase from baseline. Now on a stroker motor you may see a better return for the simple fact of the modifications to the engine, but stock I don't think 20hp is there. Question, what kind of car is that stroker in by chance?

When you are making 520+ horsepower, 20 more ponies isn't that much...less than 2.5%. The filter area is much greater in the tall filter, but I think it probably has more to do with the design of the air cleaner itself...the little "unrestricted" air cleaner only has 1/2" of clearance between the filter and the housing, and it pulls hot air up off the engine. The big dual snorkel air cleaner has 3" of space between the filter and housing, and it is getting slightly cooler air coming in from the grille.

The engine is in my grandfathers parade float...the last new car he ever bought, a 1968 Chrysler Newport convertible. It is 19.5 feet long and weighs about as much as a new Charger, but it is saddled with old school tech, the worst of it being only three speeds in the transmission. It started out as a '73 400 block, but has been bored out to 4.385, the 4.25" stoker crank has the rod journals turned down to 2.20" and it uses 6.535" long Eagle rods, measured out to a shade over 512.5 cubic inches. Just the pistons/rings, crank/rods, and bearings cost over $2K. It has enough torque to light the tires up in all three gears, it is a hand full of old school mean n' nasty. I bought the pieces here: http://www.musclemotorsracing.com/

Sadly,my V6 Charger is a lot more fun to drive!!!

 

[krautmaster]

Here are a few pics of the pieces, and the car: