I went to the last preseason game between the Jaguars and the Redskins last Thursday night. As I'm riding the escalator up I have a nice view of the players parking lot. What do I see? Not ONE, but TWO Sublime Daytonas parked with the usual hurd of Escalades. They stuck out like a turd in a punch bowl. :grin: Not that Sublimes are turds, I have jsut always loved that expression. So at least the Jags have taste.