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I'm new here - And I just ordered a new '21 Scat Pack. Will Brampton build it?

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#1 ·
Hey guys,
I'm glad to be on the site and have finally registered after weeks of ghost-scrolling in anticipation of ordering my very first FCA product. First off, let me thank everyone for the tremendous resource that this forum is to guys like me. Just reading the questions and answers of so many owners/fans on here has been as awesome as it is informative.

Well, I'll cut right to the chase. I'm 30 years old and live in NYC, and I finally decided that it's time to get rid of my 2011 Mustang GT coupe (which I daily drive) and factory order my first new car. After years of never even considering a Dodge product (my dad worked for Ford and Cadillac before his retirement, so I was biased), I eventually became disillusioned with the green-minded sycophancy of Ford and GM and decided to switch teams. I just couldn't stand the political posturing of Ford's and GM's executives anymore, and my ideological differences with their companies finally paired with my affection and admiration for Dodge's big V8 sedans in perfect harmony.

Yesterday, I called around to some friends of friends who are in the business, and made a deal to order a new '21 Scat. The order was submitted last night, and I'm currently waiting on a VON/VIN from Brampton. Here's what I ordered, if you're curious:

-' 21 Scat regular body
  • "White Knuckle" paint
  • Black/Ruby Red interior
  • Plus Group
  • Driver Convenience Group
  • Sunroof
  • Carbon/Suede Package
  • Red calipers
  • Cargo net (what can I say? I'm a big spender)


I didn't want the Dynamics Package, and who the hell spends $1000 for navigation these days, especially when UConnect comes with Apple and Android compatibility? Not I.
I did, however, want performance 275s for summer use, since I plan to buy a winter set of winter tires/wheels for our relatively moderate winter months here in the big apple anyway. To achieve this, the dealer I purchased from is going to mount new summer performance tires on the car upon delivery and credit me for the 245s that they take off. I'll pay the difference in cost, of course, and probably order my winter set from TireRack later on.

Now for the big question: When the hell is Brampton going to build the car? I know shutdowns have occurred in the past and are normally short-lived, but I'd like the car by mid to late Spring before the weather gets really nice up here, and the prospect of an equipment shortage - rather than the normal business lull or labor dispute - affecting such a large American car manufacturer is disconcerting, at the very least. Is there an end in sight? Are customer preferred orders taking precedence since Dodge knows these cars are already spoken for? Is ANY production occurring, or all the workers still sitting on their asses at home while they wait for FCA to allocate them some semiconductors?

Anyway, glad to be here, and needless to say, I'm looking forward to delivery!
 
#2 · (Edited)
That's a good color combo. Congrats on your order!
Let me suggest, if it's not too late, to add the H-K sound system. With such a big cabin, it needs the rear-door mounted speakers, that's a lot of empty space between the front and rear speakers with no sound to fill it. My car's an SXT so the sound system is Alpine, but the same thinking applies.
By the way - I ordered my car with the Navigation & Travel Group ;)
 
#7 ·
Thanks, Moe. I didn’t mean to shit on anyone with my Nav comment, but I just can’t believe Dodge is still charging a grand for navigation software and traffic updates without throwing in something else, at least. Nav apps are mostly free, and they’re so accessible to anyone with mobile data connections... it just surprises me. I wanted in-car navigation for the convenience and seamlessness of it all, but not for a thousand bucks.


Welcome and congrats. I know what you mean on the Dynamics package.

I don't know what to make of the HK audio which is big expense . I don't like the idea of a zillion speakers all over the place. I'd rather have a few I can upgrade if I need to.


Curious what's your parking situation is in NYC
Yeah, this is another option I couldn’t stomach for $1600. Moe brings up a great point about the back seat (although I’m not usually back there), and I’d rather pay someone to throw some speakers back there than spend so much money on an option like this.
As for parking, I live in a building with an underground parking garage. If I didn’t, I don’t think I’d be ok with curbside parking with a car like this... I did it for years with my Mustang, and it was a pain in the ass.


Nobody is sitting on their asses, the plant had been open since Monday.


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Awesome news, thank you! I didn’t know if anything was happening or not since I couldn’t find any confirmation of reopening in the news. That’s excellent. Can I ask how you know this?
 
#3 · (Edited)
Welcome and congrats. I know what you mean on the Dynamics package.

I don't know what to make of the HK audio which is big expense . I don't like the idea of a zillion speakers all over the place. I'd rather have a few I can upgrade if I need to.


Curious what's your parking situation is in NYC
 
#9 · (Edited)
Like Slidd, said, no one is sitting on their butts and the plant is up and running after a short pause due to a global microchip shortage. The union ratified a new contract last October, so a labor strike isnt in the forecast.

However, the plant could be idled like any other again by a Rona outbreak, or sub tier supplier problem as global manufacturing continues to rebound.

As far as the smaller engine craze among Ford and GM, it really driven by the states that are mandating zero and low emission vehicles. Mostly driven CA and the 13 States and D.C. that endorsed CA ZE green standards. Your darn state is one of them. You're probably at more risk of De Blaso banning scat packs in the city than Brampton not delivering you car. Take what you see with Ford and GM as a precursor to Stellantis. Ford in particular wants to remain competitive across the pond and cars that are Euro compliant. One of their focuses is keeping the Mustang a global compliant car. [EV Mach-e] is the first major step Ford is taking to comply with California ZE. That said, keep an eye on FCA/Stellantis because it is already moving in the direction of smaller, but still powerfull engines and electric assisted drivetrains in the US, as well as continue meeting Euro needs through their Peugeot line up. So, consider yourself in a good pocket in history to get a large V8 at this time in the industry.
 
#11 ·
Congrats.. I completely understand the cost aspect of a sound system, but I will second the H-K add on, they spent alot of R&D hours developing that system for the car and it is AMAZING! There are a lot of things I love about my car, but the clarity and depth of the sound system gets a nod and big smile from everyone that has seen (and heard) mine.
 
#20 ·
The 6-speaker Alpine system comes standard on Scat Pack. On SXT and GT there's an upgraded 9-speaker (rear doors included) Alpine system for $1,095 which I ordered for my car. For R/T and above, the upgrade is the HK system for I think $1,795. Again, there is a lot of "empty" cabin space with no sound to fill it if you don't get the upgraded system which includes the rear-door mounted speakers which are in the center of the car. Without it, all the sound comes from the front or the rear - I like sound spread throughout the interior, it sounds more "full" to my ear.
 
#15 ·
I'm gonna say unless you are really into auto sound systems you'll be fine with the stock Alpine.... That being said I'd delete the sunroof and get the better stereo....

JK I'm tall so I can't have that sunroof but to me it's just one more thing to break/leak anyway since I rarely use the sunroof we have in our Honda Pilot shrug

Congrats on the car you'll love it! Let me suggest that you actually go with 18 inch setup for winter, there are a few 18x8 wheels that clear the Brembo 4 pot calipers just fine and the set up will offer you more sidewall for those big city pot holes (I drive in Chicago so winter tires are a must!). The cost will be much better and they will last longer then the "performance" leaning 20 inch winter tires.

Get a good tire like the Michelin XIce Snow and you have a treadwear warranty and nice stable tire rated for higher speeds than typical non performance winter tires.
 
#17 ·
Thank you for your advice and feedback, bro. As a northeastener, I wholeheartedly agree with your point about the 18s over the 20s.
We don’t get an awfully large amount of snow in the city, but my parents get a lot where they love upstate, and it only takes a little accumulation to get into trouble in a RWD car like this. I’m definitely getting dedicated winter tires.
 
#19 ·
Congrats on the car! I hope it's everything you want it to be.
I agree with you on the Ford/GM thing. To me it's not so much the make then getting the car you actually want altho I've still owned more mopars then other brands. Dodge is in a unique situation right now. Had the charger and challenger not been as popular as they are sales would have been lower and they might have been discontinued too. But now they aren't just attracting their original buyers but also new ones like you who are turning to them because Ford and GM don't have what they want anymore.
On the stereo thing I'm happy with the way the normal radio in my 2014 sounds and while I prefer a stock setup over aftermarket that extra money could go a long way towards getting exactly what you want if you ever do want to upgrade.
 
#22 ·
Lol Don't worry you'll be ok. The sound still fills the cabin even if you don't have 9 speakers and since you're in the front anyway you'll still hear the sound coming from somewhere behind you.
 
#26 ·
Quick update: my salesman sent me my updated build sheet today and the car has been assigned a VIN #. Amazingly, the estimated ship date is 2/17/21 (I just ordered on the 2nd). The rep told me that, realistically speaking, they probably won’t actually get the car until mid-March, but I thought that was a really quick build time, nonetheless... especially since the factory was shuttered for most of January. Well, good news is good news and I won’t be arguing, either way.
I also ordered a Sto ‘n Show front bracket for my plates and shipped it right to the dealer (they agreed to install it for me in advance, which I thought was really nice). Getting a spare tire is next on my list of things to do.
I’ll post any other updates as they occur.
 
#28 ·
I went upstate to buy at a dealer in Rochester, NY.
The dealers I went to in our area were all fairly aloof and most weren’t willing to bend on MSRP or my trade appraisal, so the trade differences just didn’t work out at all. I went up there and got treated better and got a great deal. Glad I did.
 
#36 ·
Keep me posted on how it turns out. Have you done research on which mod you should go with? There’s some excellent videos on Charger exhausts on YouTube, especially the ones posted by Exhaust Addicts in Tennessee. Check ‘em out, or PM me if you want specific links.
 
#37 ·
Whatever you do, don't throw anything away! Throw a box or blanket in the trunk to carry the mufflers home and tell the shop to save them. The day may come when you get sick of the noise and want to put them back. Myself I would leave it alone but good luck.


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#43 ·
Build update: Charger was inspected on 2/20, shipped from Brampton on 2/26 and has arrived in the NY yard. My dealer is only a little over 100 miles away from there, so they’re anticipating a mid-week delivery. I’ll keep everyone posted.
 
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Guys... here it is. Order to build time was under 30 days, and I couldn’t be happier. The car had just been wrapped with XPEL Ultimate Plus wrap and treated with CeramicPro Sport when these were take on Friday afternoon. My dealer experience couldn’t have been better and the car is incredible - hope you guys like the pics.
 
#54 ·
Congrats from one new owner to another. I nearly went with black to get those red seats.