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all depends on how its derived...................and it has moe btu's......
 

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I was living in AZ back when they rammed the MTBE crap into the system. It was MANDATORY because it was SO GOOD for reducing pollution... and we all know it is now a BANNED substance!

I'm just waiting for some long-term results to come in with all these other "oxygenates" they insist on ramming in to our fuel, to show that either the product, or the production of it, is actually worse for the environment! :bored:
 

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all depends on how its derived...................and it has moe btu's......
Butanol is a replacement product for ethanol. However, the operative word is....anol which is ALWAYS an alcohol. All alcohols strip lubricity and are hygroscopic (absorb moisture....promoting rust, corrosion and BTU value dropout). It has been around for just shy of 100 years starting just around WWI.

Now, Butanol has more BTU value than ethanol so you have 104,800 BTU/15,500 per lb per gallon vs ethanol at 87,500 BTU/13,297per lb per gallon.

It has basically 25% more energy content than ethanol too. Remember that straight gasoline has 126,000 BTU/20,487 per lb per gallon.

Straight Gasoline 126,000 BTU x 19.2 = 2,419,200 per tank

So (126,000 BTU x .9)= 113,400 BTU + (87,500 BTU x .10) = 8750 BTU = 122,150 per gallon x 19.2 = 2,345,280 per tank. 73,920 BTU less than straight gasoline.

Butanol - (126,000 x. 84) = 105,840 BTU + (104,800 x .16)= 16,768 = 122,608 per gallon x 19.2 = 2,354,073 per gank. 65,127 BTU less than straight gasoline.

It is made via fermentation using typical biomass from corn, switchgrass and other waste products. The Reid Vapor Pressure of gasoline is typically 4.5, ethanol is 2.0 and butanol is .33 so it is technically safer. While butanol is less corrosive than ethanol....which is good....it still will end up using more volume than straight gasoline and still hygroscopic. I don't have to tell anyone here how much better a car runs on just gasoline without an oxygenate!

What I am more concerned about is if they go the route of ABE or Acetone Butanol Ethanol although it is more costly and harder to control.

If we do go the butanol route, ACES IV is ready as well to utilize the BTU values in the fuel with any oxygenate added.

We shall see what transpires as with anything Richard Branson does.....he only puts his name on things that have already become successful....BEFORE.....you ever hear his name. That is why he has a 100% success rate in the public eye!

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Brian
BND Automotive LLC
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Thanks Brian. As long as ACES still protects us, I'm good. ;)
 

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Thanks Brian. As long as ACES still protects us, I'm good. ;)
Yea, we have to design the materials to protect our customers against whatever ...anol that they throw at our cars! LOL.:beerchug:

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