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Any one know good info on getting a Cam? Or if any one has it done can you please tell me what is best to get for beat bang for my buck. Will I have to have it tuned at a shop. I have 2012 rt 5.7. dcx diablo tune. Bbk shorty heads. Flowmaster exhaust. Bbk CAI. Throttle body spacer. Eibach lowering kit... Etc... Anyone please shoot me good info on what to get, why, best price, what to expect, etc.Thanks Mopar family!
 

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It will depend on what you want. Some cams offer more high end torque, some more lower end. Some are aimed at higher HP, some give a mix of everything with little MPG loss. Regardless of which you get, a tune will be HIGHLY advisable to get the most out of it. Whether it be an email tune or a dyno tune, you'll get the max potential out of it. I'm considering a COMP cam myself, I hear nothing but good things about them. Prices range from $400 - 800 depending on a lot of factors, with a dyno tune being about $4-500, or an email tune about $125. The installation varies by shop.
 

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Any one know good info on getting a Cam? Or if any one has it done can you please tell me what is best to get for beat bang for my buck. Will I have to have it tuned at a shop. I have 2012 rt 5.7. dcx diablo tune. Bbk shorty heads. Flowmaster exhaust. Bbk CAI. Throttle body spacer. Eibach lowering kit... Etc... Anyone please shoot me good info on what to get, why, best price, what to expect, etc.Thanks Mopar family!
Also, when you get the cam and have it installed, give us a call and we will get you a custom blend QuantumBlue Lubricant designed for it and also some ACES IV. The combination along with the cam and your mods will really make a difference!

Welcome to the forums also!:beerchug:

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Sweet! Well I want more HP overall. I guess if I had a target area I'd want mid to high end power. My lower gears have mean pull! Sounds like a good price! When I go to buy this can does it need certain parts or will it all come as a kit 'so to say'. Whats the best place to buy one and for my wants do you or anyone know the exact one calling my name?
 

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Sweet! Well I want more HP overall. I guess if I had a target area I'd want mid to high end power. My lower gears have mean pull! Sounds like a good price! When I go to buy this can does it need certain parts or will it all come as a kit 'so to say'. Whats the best place to buy one and for my wants do you or anyone know the exact one calling my name?
Here is a good option: https://www.shophemi.com/p-2140-arrington-st-3a-camshafts.aspx

Or a COMP cam: https://www.shophemi.com/p-2567-comp-vvt-274-57l-and-64l-hemi-camshaft.aspx

The COMP cam seems to be a nasty little bugger, video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T48lhcF2hCw

You'll more than likely need to upgrade the valve springs and push rods, among other things. The shop you choose should be able to offer you the whole kit and caboodle at a discounted price.
 

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Good luck! :driving:
 

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Its official. Getting a comp cam and dyno tune in 2weeks! Pumped! Plus dyno tune. For all cam parts, dyno tune, and installation will be $2000 even at the performance shop I'm going to. I do have a question though. The guy said I will no longer need my diablo tuner after the dyno tune. A few people told me that as well. Though I for got to ask the guy when he dyno tunes it, will he lean it out to what it will run best, will he open my throttle 20%, will he change my rpm shift points to 6grand, etc.... Will he do all that? Does that consist of a dyno tune? All that? Will he pick out what specs run best off the computers? If so I can sale my diablo tuner and make some money back correct? Or can he not change those with the dyno tune? Or again will he pick out what's best overall max performance?
 

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Its official. Getting a comp cam and dyno tune in 2weeks! Pumped! Plus dyno tune. For all cam parts, dyno tune, and installation will be $2000 even at the performance shop I'm going to. I do have a question though. The guy said I will no longer need my diablo tuner after the dyno tune. A few people told me that as well. Though I for got to ask the guy when he dyno tunes it, will he lean it out to what it will run best, will he open my throttle 20%, will he change my rpm shift points to 6grand, etc.... Will he do all that? Does that consist of a dyno tune? All that? Will he pick out what specs run best off the computers? If so I can sale my diablo tuner and make some money back correct? Or can he not change those with the dyno tune? Or again will he pick out what's best overall max performance?
He will tune it for what HE believes will be the best for overall max performance. I would keep the DiabloSport around as it might help get you a CMR tune down the road to REALLY squeeze out every bit of performance from the car. Every tunes differently, your guys might not be the best tune though.
 

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Its official. Getting a comp cam and dyno tune in 2weeks! Pumped! Plus dyno tune. For all cam parts, dyno tune, and installation will be $2000 even at the performance shop I'm going to. I do have a question though. The guy said I will no longer need my diablo tuner after the dyno tune. A few people told me that as well. Though I for got to ask the guy when he dyno tunes it, will he lean it out to what it will run best, will he open my throttle 20%, will he change my rpm shift points to 6grand, etc.... Will he do all that? Does that consist of a dyno tune? All that? Will he pick out what specs run best off the computers? If so I can sale my diablo tuner and make some money back correct? Or can he not change those with the dyno tune? Or again will he pick out what's best overall max performance?
Congrats! What Comp Cam did you end up getting? What software is the performance shop using for tuning?
 

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I don't remember the comp can he picked off the top of my head, but I told him I want a mild cam so if picked out 2-3 and then we picked one best to what I described I wanted. Also as far as keeping my diablo tune and using it after the dyno tune, won't that wipe out his computer tune? People keep saying I won't need the diablo but I honestly don't know. I figured if I tuned it with the diablo after he computer and dyno tuned it that the diablo would change his tune? Any input? Ideas? Or info?
 

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I don't remember the comp can he picked off the top of my head, but I told him I want a mild cam so if picked out 2-3 and then we picked one best to what I described I wanted. Also as far as keeping my diablo tune and using it after the dyno tune, won't that wipe out his computer tune? People keep saying I won't need the diablo but I honestly don't know. I figured if I tuned it with the diablo after he computer and dyno tuned it that the diablo would change his tune? Any input? Ideas? Or info?
I would have him put the Dyno tune in a backup file on your Diablosport in case down the road for whatever reason something screws up. Dealerships are notorious for trying to do software updates when you drop off your car and screwing up the whole car causing the system needing to be flashed. Also you should data log the car after the dyno and make sure there isn't a lot of knocks yourself and if there is than you can customize it a little bit more than what he did to avoid the knocks. If you do little things to the car like change the fuel to more rich or lean it won't wipe out the whole tune but instead it'll change that specific thing.
 

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What he said ^

Always good to keep the DiabloSport around. It will come in handy at some point in the future.
 

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I don't remember the comp can he picked off the top of my head, but I told him I want a mild cam so if picked out 2-3 and then we picked one best to what I described I wanted. Also as far as keeping my diablo tune and using it after the dyno tune, won't that wipe out his computer tune? People keep saying I won't need the diablo but I honestly don't know. I figured if I tuned it with the diablo after he computer and dyno tuned it that the diablo would change his tune? Any input? Ideas? Or info?
I would want to know what Cam is being installed and the specs of that Cam. If they pick one for you that gives more hp at the top of the rpm band say 5200 then you may be losing out on low end hp/torque and your performance will suffer around town. You also may need a torque converter to make up for lost power down low.

With regards to tuning, I have a BABY custom grind cam but I am on my 15th revision from Johan (Diablotoona). Not to mention 7 tunes from Mike at OST for just racing. The adaptive learning of the Charger will at some point require you to get tune updates. Now I do not know how much they are going to charge for the updates, but without a Diablo Tuner to monitor for Short term knock, how will you be able to tell if your engine is running OK? It is also very useful and highly recommended to get an AFR guage to monitor the air fuel mixture after installing a cam. Many tuners will not do a tune on a ride with a cam without an AFR reading. (That is dyno time you are going to have to pay for without an AFR guage that you could hook up to the Diablo. If you have the trinity)

Did they mention anything about PSI or spring updates, shims, retainers? CompCam is recommending upgrading the springs for most all of their cams.

Just some things to think about. Putting in a Cam is a great mod but IMO it is not just install and forget.
 

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Here is a good option: Arrington ST-3A Camshafts - shopHEMI.com Or a COMP cam: COMP VVT 274 5.7L and 6.4L HEMI Camshaft - shopHEMI.com The COMP cam seems to be a nasty little bugger, video:
You'll more than likely need to upgrade the valve springs and push rods, among other things. The shop you choose should be able to offer you the whole kit and caboodle at a discounted price.
He man just wondering what MMX cam you got there was a guy at my local shop who said Texas speed cams were primarily for GM but MMX knows mopars better I’m really just looking for a good company to buy a cam from I liked the stage 3 Texas cam NA but now I don’t know what to do
 

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He man just wondering what MMX cam you got there was a guy at my local shop who said Texas speed cams were primarily for GM but MMX knows mopars better I’m really just looking for a good company to buy a cam from I liked the stage 3 Texas cam NA but now I don’t know what to do
He hasn't been here in 2 years, don't get excited when he doesn't answer.

I'm presuming you're planning on boost?
 
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