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I doubt they will be dumping anything... their cars are not being driven, and there are no new ones to replace them yet, so I think they will hold on to them until stuff gets semi-normal again.
 

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That's correct. Rental companies are cancelling orders and keeping a majority of their fleet which will be both taxable assets for the 2020 tax year and depreciation tax write offs. So I'm not sure how periodicals are coming up with the position rhat program cars are saturating the used car market.
 

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Anyone able to place an order?

It's just surprising how different "On Line", "No contact" sales is from one dealer to the next.

The place doing appointments doesn't have any Hemi Chargers to test drive, another you need to buy it and make the deal first, then you can make an appointment to see the car and finalize the sale, and they actually claim they are selling cars this way.
 

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Yikes...That sure does seem strange...claiming they are selling cars like that...Probably happens by state...but believe my state allows dealers to open soon...in days I believe...Curious what happens if just "looking" ...can admit to show room? Prolly roped off right to salesmen's desk...follow ropes to each other office..captive all the way,..Cars prolly have to be spray disinfected after each customer sits in...I watched them spray liquid into my car when taking in to service dept...Still rubbing it off with other cleaners as it spotted the seats, dash..and windows...No Thnx...
I don;t know how they handle DMV paperwork...Guess ther paper plates are extended use...Have a friend that bought from private seller...car still sitting in his driveway, can't register it...until DMV offices reopen...been over a month...Seems state Gov doesn't care about private buying...would think they should at east pay for your Uber rides...
 

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If I was buying a brand new model of some vehicle, I would insist upon a test drive of a similarly equipped used model at minimum. When I bought my '14 R/T, I had already driven one with most of the options I wanted. I made it clear to the folks who so kindly brought it to Toledo, Ohio from their dealership in Dundee, Michigan, that I retained the right to refuse delivery after seeing it if it was not as we had discussed. They had no issue with that. I took it on a short test drive, signed the papers, and drove it home after a pleasant dinner at the Cracker Barrel where they met me.

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Yikes...That sure does seem strange...claiming they are selling cars like that...Probably happens by state...but believe my state allows dealers to open soon...in days I believe...Curious what happens if just "looking" ...can admit to show room? Prolly roped off right to salesmen's desk...follow ropes to each other office..captive all the way,..Cars prolly have to be spray disinfected after each customer sits in...I watched them spray liquid into my car when taking in to service dept...Still rubbing it off with other cleaners as it spotted the seats, dash..and windows...No Thnx...
I don;t know how they handle DMV paperwork...Guess ther paper plates are extended use...Have a friend that bought from private seller...car still sitting in his driveway, can't register it...until DMV offices reopen...been over a month...Seems state Gov doesn't care about private buying...would think they should at east pay for your Uber rides...
My dealership remained open. I just had to set up an appointment to make my purchase last month.

Regarding title and registrations. In Texas we go through the tax office to process tags and titles. New car sales saw a delay in filing MSO and info to get plates and registration because they could simply issue temp plates as needed. However, the tag office just opened up this week and they will start processing dealer sales

For private car sales, mail, email, and phone were options while in-person services are unavailable. I'm not sure how many people took advantage of it, but the state of Texas also waived penalties if private transfers were not processed during the office closures and will continue to waive penalties for the next 60 days as things normalize.

Car sales and repairs were considered essential in Texas, so if someone needed a safety inspection or oil change or new tires, there were no serious issues getting things taken care of.
 

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When I picked up the Tesla, the dealership was arranging for test drives and pick-ups by appointment. I believe my local Dodge dealer is open...at least it appeared to be when I last drove out that way.

It's a buyer's market. If you feel like you want/need a test drive and a dealer won't accommodate you, I'd shop elsewhere. I see so many people that whine about the dealer experience, but keep going right back there to bend over again and again. It's your money, vote with it.

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I want the Employee pricing and will hold out for it. Pretty sure I will have to order what I want.

I don't think the sales are serious and there's excuse with COVID to not need to work at it As seems they are still getting paid with govt funny money COVID dollars.

Youngest daughter is out of work and with unemployment and fed checks she's paying off all her debt. Granted still living at home but when was the last time you heard someone paying off debt during job loss.

Will hold out until the financial reporting and the realization of real financial losses sets in with closures and unfortunately more job losses. Hertz about to go belly up and there will be no car orders from rental companies for probably at least a year.
 

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Also, some rental agencies run their used car sales with disclaimers on the site like Enterprise that reads: " Used vehicles were previously part of the Enterprise rental fleet and/or an affiliated company’s lease fleet or purchased by Enterprise from sources including auto auctions, customer trade-ins or from other sources, with a possible previous use including rental, lease, transportation network company or other use."

Hertz does the same too. No clue if Avis, Budget, Alamo, etc are the same type of marketers in the used car business. Also makes me wonder and hope when a rental company sells used cars they make it clear what pedigree the car is that someone is buying.
 

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I bought a 1 owner lease vehicle from Enterprise 10 years ago. It was well equipped.

The typical rental is bare bones on options at least with the Charger R/T.
 

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Anyone able to place an order?

It's just surprising how different "On Line", "No contact" sales is from one dealer to the next.

The place doing appointments doesn't have any Hemi Chargers to test drive, another you need to buy it and make the deal first, then you can make an appointment to see the car and finalize the sale, and they actually claim they are selling cars this way.
I placed my order for a 2020 scatpack on 4/22/20 in the middle of the shutdown. It's been about 30 days or so and my order has been stuck in D1 status for 3 weeks. I was given an estimated ship date of 6/8/20 (we'll see). Like you, I couldn't find a scatpack with the color or interior I wanted, so factory order was the way to go. Dealer bought out my lease return in exchange for the factory order last month, no deposit was put down and I was promised $1k below invoice on the order, which is a great starting point.
 

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I doubt they will be dumping anything... their cars are not being driven, and there are no new ones to replace them yet, so I think they will hold on to them until stuff gets semi-normal again.
Apparently, I do "know nothing": Hertz & Enterprise are dumping their used cars for a decent price, Hertz filed bankruptcy, and Enterprise has cut back orders for new cars by 80%...
 

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Hertz does the same too. No clue if Avis, Budget, Alamo, etc are the same type of marketers in the used car business. Also makes me wonder and hope when a rental company sells used cars they make it clear what pedigree the car is that someone is buying.
If a company files for bankruptcy, do they still need to pay back their debtors?
Or do they have to get rid of existing inventory to soften the blow?

I thought they were given a clean slate to start over, lol.
 

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BK comes in 2 chapters...if Re-organization is chosen, debt remains...as far as I recall...
Brampton reopens..I 'd be real curious just how aggressive the assembly lines are running....[ perhaps yielding very slow deliveries]...If we get a second wave of C19, and return to major lockdown...I'll bet the 2021 models yr is put on hold, maybe even dropped...for Fiat as well as a few other car Mfrs...
 

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I placed my order for a 2020 scatpack on 4/22/20 in the middle of the shutdown. It's been about 30 days or so and my order has been stuck in D1 status for 3 weeks. I was given an estimated ship date of 6/8/20 (we'll see). Like you, I couldn't find a scatpack with the color or interior I wanted, so factory order was the way to go. Dealer bought out my lease return in exchange for the factory order last month, no deposit was put down and I was promised $1k below invoice on the order, which is a great starting point.
Hmmm...why would an "internet" sales manager say they weren't doing orders when the factory is back on line? Just bizarre.

I emailed the GM at the other dealer that said they could and the sales manager messaged me "We are bombed right now with the holiday. Yada yada...would be happy to run down your options with you as soon as I can catch my breath." Of course I had all the details on what to quote on in the original email.

Not getting the warm fuzzy it's a buyers market.
 

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Hmmm...why would an "internet" sales manager say they weren't doing orders when the factory is back on line? Just bizarre.

I emailed the GM at the other dealer that said they could and the sales manager messaged me "We are bombed right now with the holiday. Yada yada...would be happy to run down your options with you as soon as I can catch my breath." Of course I had all the details on what to quote on in the original email.

Not getting the warm fuzzy it's a buyers market.
If you have money in your pocket and a dealer has what you want, it absolutely is a buyer's market. If you want to special order a vehicle, you're SOL until the assembly lines re-open. It's hard to fathom any dealer being "bombed" right now.

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Brampton is open and should be back at two shifts now since yesterday.


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