Yup, saw the grand tour Thursday night.
That's just what I was thinking as well. The pursuit could have been over much sooner (safer for everyone), so I was assuming she was following policy to get approval for the PIT. I'm 50-50 on that policy... Obviously it's a dangerous thing to do, causing damage to the police vehicle and at least one other vehicle, all of which can cause harm to the officer and/or suspect and innocents, but on the other hand, she could have done the PIT on that entrance ramp with no other vehicles around (IMO!). Still, it worked out well in the end. :bigthumb:Great driving, with multiple opportunities to PIT him, but she waited for authorization first.
I get what you guys mean about the siren. People act stupid. I had an incident about a week ago where I was about the third car back from a traffic signal in the left lane in something called a diverging diamond. Ambulance behind us. Figured it was going straight at the light. Nobody moving. It came up behind me. I wound up hanging the left on the offramp and pulling right to get out of it's way. Turns out that it wan't going straight. It was trying to go 74 West. Basically the same direction as I wound up going, so it went past me. Worked out OK except for the two mile round trip that I just committed to. Oh well...Great explanation ColdSteel, and I like the clarification about out-driving the siren. We say that and people often act like we think we're driving faster than sound. No, just faster than the public is able to perceive the siren.
Yeah I agree. Some times the conditions are perfect to end it right there. Some officers will do it without prior authorization when they see it's there, while others will adhere to policy and wait for approval to do it. I can't really fault either one. If the unauthorized PIT works you simply explain why you knew it was safer to do it and time didn't allow you to get approval first. However if it doesn't work out you have to try to explain why you didn't follow policy and someone got hurt or something got destroyed. That's a hard sell...... I was assuming she was following policy to get approval for the PIT. I'm 50-50 on that policy... Obviously it's a dangerous thing to do, causing damage to the police vehicle and at least one other vehicle, all of which can cause harm to the officer and/or suspect and innocents,.....
Shots may have more information or different - probably right - opinions on this because he works in the field. As far as stun guns - not Tasers - the little handheld things that make loud noises when a button is pushed, I think they are useless. If I have bad intent, and I come at you, and you have the presense of mind to get the thing up and out and start pushing the button intending to touch me with it, it's not going to happen. I - the bad person - will knock that out of your hand, likely knocking it free because of that cool "safety" disconnect.Hey, Shots I got a couple quick questions, and I realize that the answers will be for Ohio, but I'd still like to know.
My wife asked me and I really don't know what to tell her, but I bought her a little "zapper" for when she takes her walks. It's a combination flashlight and shocker. I hesitate to call it a taser because it doesn't fire probes with wires, you pretty much have to touch whatever you want to shock. Anyway, she's reading a novel and one of the characters in it said that she would rather carry pepper spray because you can carry it in your pocket without getting arrested for carrying a concealed weapon, like her taser. (???)
So the message being conveyed is that a zapper is classified as a concealed weapon if it is in your pocket, but OK if you carry it in your hand, (open carry), but pepper spray is OK both in or out of your pocket.
The problem I have with all this is, while both of these items are (in my mind) non-lethal deterrents, the pepper spray can be utilized from a distance while the zapper you pretty much have to touch the perp, so which one can be used as a "weapon" more effectively? The pepper spray, in my mind. Yet one can carry it concealed?
She keeps it in her hand while walking anyway because it has a safety strap that goes around her wrist, so if anyone manages to take it from her it pulls a little plug out that disables it so it can't be used against her. And she walks early, before it is light and the flashlight part of it is handy to have. Oh, and she carries pepper spray too.
I absolutely agree. Anything you might have for defense is never an absolute. I made a couple of suggestions that might help make that person less of a target. A dog, and additional people. Unless the dog is protection trained, it probably isn’t going to help if something happens, but it’s a variable that someone with bad intent might avoid. Pepper spray might be better than nothing if something goes down, while I can’t really see a Chinese made spark maker helping.Just FYI- pepper spray doesn't always work on the bad guy (gal), but it will always work on you. The wind will rarely if ever be in your favor. <img src="http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
If you have some doubts about the Chinese sparker, give yourself a quick zap with it...Pepper spray might be better than nothing if something goes down, while I can’t really see a Chinese made spark maker helping.