[turbobuckeye]

I was at the Mopar Nationals this weekend in Columbus, Ohio and there was a company there called Team Performance Products advertising their twin turbo system for the 5.7 and 6.1 Dodge Charger.

http://www.team-ppi.com/

Has anybody heard of them or know anything about there system? It looks like a very clean and stealth install. You do not have to cut up your exhaust or anything else to install the system (HUGE plus in my book). Not sure if this has been discussed before or not......


Discussion on lxforums: http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=126351

 

[crazylikeacharger]

wish their site had info on the LX kit. would be a cool thing to see some info and dyno sheets for

 

[turbobuckeye]

They had this setup installed on their Charger in the booth......

 

[LongDriving]

Do you know what kind of gains it expects to put out?

 

[Nemmisis1]

maybe a price to.... what would we be looking at?

 

[ultrablue]

They achieved 440 HORSEPOWER / 465 FT LBS. OF TORQUE on a 4.6 liter Mustang GT.

The better part is the compressors... UTILIZES "GARRET GT 2871R" DUAL BALL BEARING TURBO'S WITH INTEGRAL WASTEGATES

Lots of import guys (that know what they are doing... and have the cash) use these. they are a bit smaller than say a GT3037 (Stroker Eclipses and Evos). I think they are comparable to a GT25-R or GT28, which are the holy grail of the STi tuners. Good for about 400 hp BY THEM SELVES AND ON THEIR OWN and man... you'll hit full boost by 2000 RPM in a HEMI!

I would choose this setup over a boring T3/T4 single turbo setup any day.

Looks like a really well made well thought out kit on paper. Book marking their page.

 

[LongDriving]

I'm subscribing to this thread. Hopefully someone will have some input on price, gains, etc.

 

[RitzRT]

They achieved 40 HORSEPOWER / 465 FT LBS. OF TORQUE on a 4.6 liter Mustang GT.

The better part is the compressors... UTILIZES "GARRET GT 2871R" DUAL BALL BEARING TURBO'S WITH INTEGRAL WASTEGATES

Lots of import guys (that know what they are doing... and have the cash) use these. they are a bit smaller than say a GT3037 (Stroker Eclipses and Evos). I think they are comparable to a GT25-R or GT28, which are the holy grail of the STi tuners. Good for about 400 hp BY THEM SELVES AND ON THEIR OWN and man... you'll hit full boost by 2000 RPM in a HEMI!

I would choose this setup over a boring T3/T4 single turbo setup any day.

Looks like a really well made well thought out kit on paper. Book marking their page.

It does look like a nice setup. The GT28 and cousins are VERY capable turbos. I installed a GT28 on a 1.8L Audi A4 that hit 330hp and 325ft/lbs (on a Mustang 4-wheel dyno...since it was a quattro Audi). That was a couple of years ago and the car is still being tracked today. They are pretty bullet-proof.

Cheers,

 

[ultrablue]

We had a dude with a VW something or another (looks like a civic Si hatchback), navy blue, in AZ running a GT28. so thats what I based my comment on. So Im assuming this is an evolved version of that turbo. As you said, very capable.

 

[turbobuckeye]

This is what the brochure says that I picked up at the Mopar Nats......

Do you know what kind of gains it expects to put out?

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

600 HORSEPOWER / 650 FT LBS. OF TORQUE AT THE REAR WHEELS @ 8 PSI BOOST (690 HP/747 FT LBS TORQUE AT THE CRANK) WITH STOCK 6.1 LITER ENGINE

900 HORSEPOWER POTENTIAL WITH FUEL & ENGINE COMPONET UPGRADES

UTILIZES "GARRET GT 2871R" DUAL BALL BEARING TURBO'S WITH INTEGRAL WASTEGATES

HIGH FLOW FRONT MOUNT AIR TO AIR ALUMINUM INTERCOOLER

LOW MOUNT "STELTH DESIGN"

ALL STAINLESS STEEL, ALUMINUM AND CARBON FIBER CONSTRUCTION

DESIGNED FOR EASE OF INSTALLATION WITHOUT THE NEED FOR SPECIAL AUTOMOTIVE KNOWLEDGE OR TOOLS.

NO CUTTING OR WELDING REQUIRED

NO ENGINE COMPARTMENT, ACCESSORY OR VEHICLE ALTERATIONS

TUNER KITS AVAILABLE

Some folks that live near them in California are gonna stop by and get some more information:

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=126351

 

[turbobuckeye]

maybe a price to.... what would we be looking at?

I'm subscribing to this thread. Hopefully someone will have some input on price, gains, etc.

Unit was priced just under $7k, which is about the same as you would pay for a single turbo unit right now.

 

[Charger Mike]

I Saw it too!

Hello TurboBuckeye missed you at "The Nats".

I talked to the guys at the booth seemed like they were almost there with the product. The had some tuning issues.

Would like to see this adapted to the 3.5L V6.:notallthere::notallthere::coolgleamA:

 

[LongDriving]

Those numbers are plain sick for the money!

 

[ultrablue]

Yeah. This is my setup as long as they have a viable tuning solution.

Why internal wastegates though? Arent they more prone to failure than say an external Tial unit? or does Tial make this turbo's casing?! Also... they are using AEM for tunning? probably the EMS piggyback... That thing and I have a bad history... and worse so with the Greddy E-Manage. I hope this falls through and they switch to say the diablo.

 

[RitzRT]

Hello TurboBuckeye missed you at "The Nats".

I talked to the guys at the booth seemed like they were almost there with the product. The had some tuning issues.

Would like to see this adapted to the 3.5L V6.:notallthere::notallthere::coolgleamA:

In order to adapt this to the 3.5L you'll have to spend some money to adapt the bottom end on the 3.5L first. As delivered, I really don't think it's up to the task of more than 5psi or so. That would be enough to get you near a stock 5.7L (but significantly less torque) so I'd find it hard to justify from a cost perspective when it would be easier and cheaper to just pick up a 5.7L Charger without all the added drama.

Cheers,

 

[BAD MAN 485]

with this kind of boost aren't you going to blow up a stock motor? I would assume the most rwhp to be gained safely whether it be with a supercharger or turbo would be 100hp. I dont really see why it would be any different. The superchargers are more then capable of more hp but because of safety are detuned. Am I correct or is the turbo some how magical?

 

[turbobuckeye]

If you replace the internals (i.e. crank, pistons, rods, etc) it is possible for you to run a higher boost level. Not sure what the cutoff point is though for a stock engine.

 

[BAD MAN 485]

ok I already knew that so pretty much its the same for a turbo or supercharger as far as HP because the boost levels are the same. Its pretty much you go with what ever kit you like most because they both do the same thing.

 

[DeekDaddy]

In order to adapt this to the 3.5L you'll have to spend some money to adapt the bottom end on the 3.5L first. As delivered, I really don't think it's up to the task of more than 5psi or so. That would be enough to get you near a stock 5.7L (but significantly less torque) so I'd find it hard to justify from a cost perspective when it would be easier and cheaper to just pick up a 5.7L Charger without all the added drama.

Cheers,

Anyhow...someone on here did it to there 3.5 and there gains were below a R/T stock numbers. So, DONT DO IT

 

[BAD MAN 485]

Anyhow...someone on here did it to there 3.5 and there gains were below a R/T stock numbers. So, DONT DO IT

wow wow wow dont use facts like these lol people might get mad and claim you're basing v6's.