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Ok I think I speak for eveyone when I say "I am confused!" Can we try and stick to a subject here PLEASE. Now who has the best and cheapest set-up out there? This is what I want to achieve with my R/T and I am pretty sure the majority of my fellow charger owners want the same. What is the best head set-up out there I don't want any idling problems but I want to acheive the most HP that I can.
 

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If you are only interested in cheap n cheerful.....I don't think that you are gonna get much response.

Fact is, no mater who you go with, doing the Heads and cam w/the other stuff is a 7-8000.00 bill installed.

So, there's your budget. If you want the HP , you gonna have to pay.
sorry.....:(
 

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Well here is a breakout of what I am going to spend:

Sidewinder: $420 (purchased already)
FRI Street Heads $1650
FRI Milled Deck Height 5.7L Heads $150
Ferrea Valves $352
FRI 6.1L Springs (set of 16) $80
FRI LX 5.7L Install Kit: $100
* 20x Head Bolts
* Cam Bolt
* Head Gaskets
FRI Milled Deck Height 5.7L Heads $150
Shipping: $135
Intall: $0 Going to do install myself

Total cost: $3035
 

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If you are only interested in cheap n cheerful.....I don't think that you are gonna get much response.

Fact is, no mater who you go with, doing the Heads and cam w/the other stuff is a 7-8000.00 bill installed.

So, there's your budget. If you want the HP , you gonna have to pay.
sorry.....:(
I know its not going to be cheap, I just want the best bang for my buck, and something that idles good and is dependable.
 

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Well here is a breakout of what I am going to spend:

Sidewinder: $420 (purchased already)
FRI Street Heads $1650
FRI Milled Deck Height 5.7L Heads $150
Ferrea Valves $352
FRI 6.1L Springs (set of 16) $80
FRI LX 5.7L Install Kit: $100
* 20x Head Bolts
* Cam Bolt
* Head Gaskets
FRI Milled Deck Height 5.7L Heads $150
Shipping: $135
Intall: $0 Going to do install myself

Total cost: $3035
Yeah same here on the $0 install, but I am going to need as much info as I can get so if you get ahead of me on the install make sure you post some pics and info for me lol.
 

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But there is really not that big of a difference between our Stage 2 setup which runs $4,400 and includes a lot more parts with it. To say that is the cheapest, you have to also look at what it doesn't have. All said and done, we're not that much more expensive and our packages run extremely smooth. I have nothing against the Fri packages but there has always been the stigma that our packages are much more expensive. If you put our HHP Stage 2 package together in our webstore, it runs:


$100.00 HEMI Head Bolts & Head Gasket Set
$597.00 Pro Torque Performance 2800 HEMI Stall Converter
$699.00 HHP/BES Stage 2 Custom 268 Camshaft & Lifters
$2,445.00 HHP BES Ported & Polished Heads w/ Polished Valve Springs, Titanum Retainers and milling for 0.25 higher compression
$425.00 B&G 5.7L PCM Flash

Sub-Total $4,266.00
ESTIMATED SHIPPING $134.85
ESTIMATED TOTAL $4,400.85

But this includes the torque converter which is highly recommended and the PCM based tuning, too. Tuning will be revamped over the next month or so and the price may change as we all go through some tuning changes. If you remove the tuning and the torque converter, our equivalent package is in the same ballpark at only $3244 + $134.85 shipping (total $3378.85).

It's a hair bit more but we would rather go with combinations and upgrades where we feel they are needed because making power while keeping your engine as safe as possible is our #1 goal.

Thanks!
Joshua, HHP
 

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From everything I have read FRI & HHP make very good top end packages Indy performace also makes great cyl. heads. But if you plan on running a diffrent cam count on count on changing alot of other components so the vehicle runs correctly. Also budget headers the factory manifolds on the 5.7 are very restrictive you will get significant gains just from headers on the 5.7. Your best bet is to find some one that is happy with a similar setup to what you want and copy it or contact a vendor and speek with their tech staff and ask alot of questions first. Instead of buying some parts that a salesman sold you to and your car stalls at every stop and to fix it you need another 4000 in parts.
 

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Well here is a breakout of what I am going to spend:

Sidewinder: $420 (purchased already)
FRI Street Heads $1650
FRI Milled Deck Height 5.7L Heads $150
Ferrea Valves $352
FRI 6.1L Springs (set of 16) $80
FRI LX 5.7L Install Kit: $100
* 20x Head Bolts
* Cam Bolt
* Head Gaskets
FRI Milled Deck Height 5.7L Heads $150
Shipping: $135
Intall: $0 Going to do install myself

Total cost: $3035
But there is really not that big of a difference between our Stage 2 setup which runs $4,400 and includes a lot more parts with it. To say that is the cheapest, you have to also look at what it doesn't have. All said and done, we're not that much more expensive and our packages run extremely smooth. I have nothing against the Fri packages but there has always been the stigma that our packages are much more expensive. If you put our HHP Stage 2 package together in our webstore, it runs:


$100.00 HEMI Head Bolts & Head Gasket Set
$597.00 Pro Torque Performance 2800 HEMI Stall Converter
$699.00 HHP/BES Stage 2 Custom 268 Camshaft & Lifters
$2,445.00 HHP BES Ported & Polished Heads w/ Polished Valve Springs, Titanum Retainers and milling for 0.25 higher compression
$425.00 B&G 5.7L PCM Flash

Sub-Total $4,266.00
ESTIMATED SHIPPING $134.85
ESTIMATED TOTAL $4,400.85

But this includes the torque converter which is highly recommended and the PCM based tuning, too. Tuning will be revamped over the next month or so and the price may change as we all go through some tuning changes. If you remove the tuning and the torque converter, our equivalent package is in the same ballpark at only $3244 + $134.85 shipping (total $3378.85).

It's a hair bit more but we would rather go with combinations and upgrades where we feel they are needed because making power while keeping your engine as safe as possible is our #1 goal.

Thanks!
Joshua, HHP
Good info. Thanks!!! :rockon:
 

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But there is really not that big of a difference between our Stage 2 setup which runs $4,400 and includes a lot more parts with it. To say that is the cheapest, you have to also look at what it doesn't have. All said and done, we're not that much more expensive and our packages run extremely smooth. I have nothing against the Fri packages but there has always been the stigma that our packages are much more expensive. If you put our HHP Stage 2 package together in our webstore, it runs:


$100.00 HEMI Head Bolts & Head Gasket Set
$597.00 Pro Torque Performance 2800 HEMI Stall Converter
$699.00 HHP/BES Stage 2 Custom 268 Camshaft & Lifters
$2,445.00 HHP BES Ported & Polished Heads w/ Polished Valve Springs, Titanum Retainers and milling for 0.25 higher compression
$425.00 B&G 5.7L PCM Flash

Sub-Total $4,266.00
ESTIMATED SHIPPING $134.85
ESTIMATED TOTAL $4,400.85

But this includes the torque converter which is highly recommended and the PCM based tuning, too. Tuning will be revamped over the next month or so and the price may change as we all go through some tuning changes. If you remove the tuning and the torque converter, our equivalent package is in the same ballpark at only $3244 + $134.85 shipping (total $3378.85).

It's a hair bit more but we would rather go with combinations and upgrades where we feel they are needed because making power while keeping your engine as safe as possible is our #1 goal.

Thanks!
Joshua, HHP
Darn you Josh! That's the setup I will likely be going with, unless I get really crazy and go stage 3. I doubt it though. Got a dyno for that set up handy? Also, with the dyno, I am assuming there is some exhaust mods on there as well?
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bluecar is right. We put our packages together with the assumption and recommendaton that you have a full exhaust system, air intake and a 180 t-stat.

Unlike others, we are a full HEMI installation shop and we fully test our products in house. Being an actual shop where 99 percent of the vehicles we have through here are HEMI's, we could never put out a product or have a customer leave here that was less than perfect.

Anyone can give us a call and we can go over any questions you may have about our packages and what else is required.

Joshua, HHP
 

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bluecar is right. We put our packages together with the assumption and recommendaton that you have a full exhaust system, air intake and a 180 t-stat.

Unlike others, we are a full HEMI installation shop and we fully test our products in house. Being an actual shop where 99 percent of the vehicles we have through here are HEMI's, we could never put out a product or have a customer leave here that was less than perfect.

Anyone can give us a call and we can go over any questions you may have about our packages and what else is required.

Joshua, HHP
Yeah but yer bloody shop is in Delaware, whereas I am almost as far away from you as you can be and stay in the contiguous 48 states! grrr I hate you. I mean I love yall but I hear all these stories about forum members going out there and yall work on their cars and ya have barbarques and drink cold ones and have a good ole time and just.......and dangit ya never invite me! grrrrrr
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Yes, you have to make sure that when comparing prices you also now what you are getting. Some place may have a cheaper product but have less products as well. Main thing is that I want my car to run right its too expensive of a car just to have it set up for track purposes only at least with me it is so I want to squeaze out as much HP as I can and still be a realiable car and also of course spend the least money that I can but of course not get to the point where my car i not going to operate right.
 

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But there is really not that big of a difference between our Stage 2 setup which runs $4,400 and includes a lot more parts with it. To say that is the cheapest, you have to also look at what it doesn't have. All said and done, we're not that much more expensive and our packages run extremely smooth. I have nothing against the Fri packages but there has always been the stigma that our packages are much more expensive. If you put our HHP Stage 2 package together in our webstore, it runs:


$100.00 HEMI Head Bolts & Head Gasket Set
$597.00 Pro Torque Performance 2800 HEMI Stall Converter
$699.00 HHP/BES Stage 2 Custom 268 Camshaft & Lifters
$2,445.00 HHP BES Ported & Polished Heads w/ Polished Valve Springs, Titanum Retainers and milling for 0.25 higher compression
$425.00 B&G 5.7L PCM Flash

Sub-Total $4,266.00
ESTIMATED SHIPPING $134.85
ESTIMATED TOTAL $4,400.85

But this includes the torque converter which is highly recommended and the PCM based tuning, too. Tuning will be revamped over the next month or so and the price may change as we all go through some tuning changes. If you remove the tuning and the torque converter, our equivalent package is in the same ballpark at only $3244 + $134.85 shipping (total $3378.85).

It's a hair bit more but we would rather go with combinations and upgrades where we feel they are needed because making power while keeping your engine as safe as possible is our #1 goal.

Thanks!
Joshua, HHP
Yes, this looks like a great package what kind of est HP will I be seeing with this set up?
 

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man hhp is so close to me hmmmmmmmmm...might have to get a rental for a couple days hehehe...:grin:
 

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man hhp is so close to me hmmmmmmmmm...might have to get a rental for a couple days hehehe...:grin:
do it....great daily driver that will make you proud at the track!!!

Glad I did it..
 

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are there any supporting shops around the us that will do these installs, or does it have to be done in deleware
 

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Well here is a breakout of what I am going to spend:

Sidewinder: $420 (purchased already)
FRI Street Heads $1650
FRI Milled Deck Height 5.7L Heads $150
Ferrea Valves $352
FRI 6.1L Springs (set of 16) $80
FRI LX 5.7L Install Kit: $100
* 20x Head Bolts
* Cam Bolt
* Head Gaskets
FRI Milled Deck Height 5.7L Heads $150
Shipping: $135
Intall: $0 Going to do install myself

Total cost: $3035

you got milled deck height twice. -150 :grin:
 

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hhp:
for people going superchargerd w/ nos (like me) or even without nos what is your head cost without milling. obviously higher compression wont help us.
 

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man hhp is so close to me hmmmmmmmmm...might have to get a rental for a couple days hehehe...:grin:
Before you go and pull the trigger on a head and cam swap, you owe it to yourself to look at all the vendors offerings. 402 Motoring sells and installs Franks Racing products, and best of all we're righ here in New Jersey! Give us a call @ 1-877-254-6448 to discuss all your options.
 
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