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Hello, yes this is my first post, but I have been a lurker here since this sight came up, but I never really had anything good to add so I kept quiet. I just downloaded the entire 2006 Product section on the Charger and was wondering if any of you would like to take a look at what Dodge has sent it's sales people for information on this new car. I tried ot upload it, as a .pdf, but it won't let me for some reason. I will try again tonight when I get home.
 

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Gotta check with legal:), then I'll get it up.
 

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dodge-srt4.com

Should be up there in a while, if he can do so.
 

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Awesome! Thanks for the hosting :)

I hope everyone enjoys it. This is exactly what all the salespeople for Dodge will be using to tell everyone what these cars have. That is..when daimlerChrysler decides to actually mail it out to us..... lol
 

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Good lookin.. Now if someone can get me that commercial?? PLEASE????
 

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Hey GLH can you explain to me 9 land steering? i keep reading about it but i just don't get it?
 

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Courtesy of Allpar.com's Charger page, which incidentially, is a great source of insider type info.

What is a 9-land steering gear? Chrysler's Joe Grace wrote: "The steering gear for the Charger has a nine land valve which improves steering feel by improved damping characteristics especially in aggressive cornering." Another engineer described it more thoroughly:

"Imagine a shaft that is not round, but has nine sides, and is inside a round tube. That creates 9 separate passages (between the outside flat surfaces of the shaft and the round inner surface of the tube). When the engine is running, power steering fluid enters at the base, and exits through ports in the tube's sides. When you drive straight, there is no power assist because the fluid is passed through the tube tangentially, so all the road feel from the tires come up to the steering wheel. As you enter a turn, at slower speeds, you can turn the wheel faster with less effort because the 9 sides act like a vane pump or pinwheel in a garden sprinkler; the faster the wheel turns, the more fluid passes through, and the more assist you get. In reality it's a little more complicated, but this gets the gist of it across. In my opinion, it is simply a band-aid to a poor, probably Mercedes-based design."
 

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That's where i saw it first...
RonRacer said:
i keep reading about it but i just don't get it?
Lamens please :confused: i'm an idoit :confused:
 

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Here's the pictures, and I'm still noodling it myself, so bear with me.

Above is straight ahead. Note fluid flow has a straight shot through the shaft. It never gets sent to the rack to apply pressure for left or right turn. The lands are the depressions you see in the center shaft.

Now in a four land system, which I think is illustrated here, you get XX amount of fluid flow, which allows XX amount of pressure to be sent to the rack. (XX = I have no clue of even representative numbers)

This pic shows the difference in a turn. Now with 9 channels, instead of four, you get a more precise adjustment. Like a volume knob, not a straight ON/OFF switch. Should be more linear increase in poawe assist. A smooth ramping up, not just a jump.



Lastly, the site where I drew this from, all bum gauge is mine, all gooodness, the guy who wrote this up. Guys like him teach me:)

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/oct99/939144438.Eg.r.html
 

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RonRacer said:
That's where i saw it first...

Lamens please :confused: i'm an idoit :confused:
it's variable power assisted steering, that is not electronically controlled. why they use it is to give better "on center" feel( not numb like some GM product). plus, in a large car it gives more assist at slower speeds to aid parking and other manuvers. at high speeds it has less assist so you can feel the cars limits. hope that clears it up for you... :confused:
 

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Oh, and your not an idiot, just ignorant:) Idiots can't learn, ignorance can be cured through education:) Ignorance = lack of knowledge.
 

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chargershed said:
why they use it is to give better "on center" feel( not numb like some GM product).
Just did 2 days and 400 miles in an 05 Gran Prix rental. AHHHHRGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!! What about "driver feedback" does GM NOT understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Numb steering, brakes take a long time then grab harder than they should, throttle tip-in sucks, trans programming is horrible!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

And this thing shone compared to the Malibu Maxx I had last week!!!!!!!!!
 
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