Hey Guys/Gals, trying to get some ideas of what to go after on my Son's 06 SRT8 that stalled in traffic yesterday, then after it restarted, accelerated while his foot was on the brake. I know it has a linear gas pedal connected to the PCM I believe. He said he tried to pull up any codes on his dash display but none came up. He said the oil light came on when it died which is probly because the engine died. Said all the fluids are good. He's headed home from college tomorrow, bout a 4 hour ride and would like to have a game plan to fix it when he gets home. I've seen some threads when I googled shut down problems which pointed to defective pcm's...but also usually no codes set. Acted like pcm didn't know where the gas pedal was at, and started running a position check on it? stabbing in the dark here. Car has an aftermarket remote start that will start the car 2x's after you reconnect the battery? I plan to get this taken out by dealer that installed it as I think it might be interfering with the tire press monitor system, and it could be causing this latest issue too. mI appreciate any help on this.
06 SRT8 shuts off, then accellarates w foot on brake
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don't think the tank has been replaced...will need to call the dealer tomorrow to see. Has had a gas cap evaporative system fault for a little while that is not the cap or inlet connections. Was reading another post on the web that seems like the Auto shut off relay circuit is supposed to keep the runaway throttle from happening...maybe the gas pedal assy is starting to go. Only code pulled up by AZ is the evap system Thank you for the reply.
The gas tank recall is from filling up and it causing a vapor lock issue. Was he at a full tank/ had he just filled up? Sometimes after stalling the car can kick back on again which could be causing that sudden jolt/acceleration. I've had it die then spring back while cruising, while idlely accelerating, while merging into traffic, etc. I've also had it just stall and stay dead until I restart everything.
You're not getting any codes because it's probably not throwing any engine codes but TCM codes which a dealer or someone with the actual scanner tool can pull (not even the aftermarket tuners can pull them).
U0100 is the one to look out for (lost contact with PCM) and P0700 is a sometimes common trans code, which there was also a TSB for in the 06's.
How many miles are on the car? Also check spark plugs and coil packs. While you're at it, check it for the rad. fan recall too... Oh and make sure it's not still running the smooth OEM rotors, as that was also a TSB for the 06's. Good fun.
You're not getting any codes because it's probably not throwing any engine codes but TCM codes which a dealer or someone with the actual scanner tool can pull (not even the aftermarket tuners can pull them).
U0100 is the one to look out for (lost contact with PCM) and P0700 is a sometimes common trans code, which there was also a TSB for in the 06's.
How many miles are on the car? Also check spark plugs and coil packs. While you're at it, check it for the rad. fan recall too... Oh and make sure it's not still running the smooth OEM rotors, as that was also a TSB for the 06's. Good fun.
Had a similar issue with my 06 SRT. Dealer tech found I had installed incorrect plugs. Seems the resistance was not correct, causing the coils to overheat, which then sent a high current back feed into the PCM, which then kicked the PCM offline. This would kill the engine. No codes would be stored as the PCM was basically off/no power. Once the correct plugs were installed, issue went away; over a year ago.
Similar issue could be caused by a bad coil pack(s).
I would start with new, correct plugs and go from there. Right off hand I do not remember the plug brand/type, but the dealer parts counter will have them($$) or check the owner manual and pick them up at a parts store. You'll need 16 of them. This would be the least expensive place to start troubleshooting. Even if the plugs are the correct brand/type already installed, if they haven't been changed in the last 30-40k miles, probably due anyway.
Good luck!
Similar issue could be caused by a bad coil pack(s).
I would start with new, correct plugs and go from there. Right off hand I do not remember the plug brand/type, but the dealer parts counter will have them($$) or check the owner manual and pick them up at a parts store. You'll need 16 of them. This would be the least expensive place to start troubleshooting. Even if the plugs are the correct brand/type already installed, if they haven't been changed in the last 30-40k miles, probably due anyway.
Good luck!
Yes, it was 2 mins after fill up. Dealer here says the only tsb he has for this car is for the fans, which I have replaced. dealer says the vapor lock issue was 07's and up?Have had a gas cap fault that I believe is tied into this occurrence. Does anyone have the TSB number that applies to 06's for this fuel vapor lock problem? I haven't done any thing with the spark plugs, and based on the fact it happened right after top off, its fuel tank related.
Fuel tank warranty
It's a 19 page long thread but chock full of info.
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202329
It's a 19 page long thread but chock full of info.
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202329
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It's likely that the shut down and restart caused a glitch in the TCM/PCM interface. I would disconnect the battery for a few minutes and then reconnect to reboot the entire system. Then see if it happens again. I would also check the battery and make sure it has a full charge.
You can also pull fuse number 11 under the hood for 1 minute to clear codes and reset the TCM.
A temporary fix for the stall after refueling that sometimes works is to leave the gas cap off for about a minute after you put the gas nozzle back on the pump after filling filling up. Then put the gas cap on like normal before starting the car.
You can also pull fuse number 11 under the hood for 1 minute to clear codes and reset the TCM.
A temporary fix for the stall after refueling that sometimes works is to leave the gas cap off for about a minute after you put the gas nozzle back on the pump after filling filling up. Then put the gas cap on like normal before starting the car.
Thank you JTW! Holy Cow...what a long thread, but worth the read....its extended warrantee, not a TSB that gets it done. Gotta call Dodge again tomorrow to see if the car is covered...its an 06, but not sure if its in the window date-wise. The ntsb said 05-06's covered, but leave it to Dodge to cut the list down 
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Your '06 SRT should be covered. Mine is.Thank you JTW! Holy Cow...what a long thread, but worth the read....its extended warrantee, not a TSB that gets it done. Gotta call Dodge again tomorrow to see if the car is covered...its an 06, but not sure if its in the window date-wise. The ntsb said 05-06's covered, but leave it to Dodge to cut the list down
Ddaddy, it has reved 2500-3000 for 10-20 seconds while stopped, foot on brake 2 times...once a while ago, and again after the car stalled in traffic Saturday...that worries me as the Kid said it lit up the tires momentarily. The fuel tank problem "Hopefully" will be covered under warranty, but if not I'll end up replacing the tank-their parts, my labor. Thanks for the tip on resetting the tcm/pcm.
Thanks Invictu...good info. Car has 65000 miles on it, and yes, he had filled up the car 2 mins before it stalled. Why were you suggesting replacing the spark plugs? for the stalling, or the acceleration to 3000 rpm while stopped? These SRT8's have 2 plugs/cylinder? I'm thinking the revs were somehow caused by the vapor lock...not sure how though, or the gas pedal. Old days you'd just check the throttle cable for a bind, but these drive-by-wire cars are a different breed.
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The sudden over reving in gear is a result of a faulty PCM/TCM response. You need to first fully reset the entire system and then proceed from there.
The system has interlocking programming that should prevent that type of behavior but it can result from glitches just like your home PC can. First thing is to reboot and then see if the issue persists. After that, start logging and chasing codes on a clean slate so that you can get an idea of what is going on.
Your PCM may be fragging itself, but until you reboot it...you can't know what it's actually doing.
The system has interlocking programming that should prevent that type of behavior but it can result from glitches just like your home PC can. First thing is to reboot and then see if the issue persists. After that, start logging and chasing codes on a clean slate so that you can get an idea of what is going on.
Your PCM may be fragging itself, but until you reboot it...you can't know what it's actually doing.
I recommended checking the plugs; I didn't know at the time I suggested plugs that the car had just been topped off with gas.
x2 on what Ddaddy suggested about "rebooting" the car. This will reset everything back to a just powered on state, just like your home computer. Any modules with a communication or other problem will get reset so they all should start working together well again.
x2 on what Ddaddy suggested about "rebooting" the car. This will reset everything back to a just powered on state, just like your home computer. Any modules with a communication or other problem will get reset so they all should start working together well again.
Here's the problem I got now...the car was wrecked and rebuilt...I knew it had a rebuilt title when I bought it. Local Dodge dealer tells me this am that all my warrantees have been cancelled. I call Dodge corporate, verified that the car does qualify for the replacement, except for the cancelled warrantee. and after a long time on the phone, the very nice lady says I need need to solicit my local dealer to work on my behalf to get corporate to reinstate the warrantee. Big Dodge can only see that someplace in GA disabled the warrantee...can't see which dealer? Hmmn. I argue that "You Are Big Dodge corporate...you can do what ever you like" I just want this gas tank safety issue fixed...I don't think there's any more warrantee on the car at this point anyway.She says they can't override regional corporate...dealer can work with regional corporate to overturn it...Fat chance I think. So I call the local dealer back and explain my problem...he says he can't do anything, only big Corp can reinstate the warrantee, which is kinda what I thought. So now I guess I gotta go back and plead with big corporate to reinstate at least the gas tank warrantee, as it is a safety issue. BTW, price for these gas tanks is $700....but local dealer can't sell me the tank with the new part number for this repair, only the old style tank....I get the impression that the tanks are the same except for the part number label after talking with him about it. Any suggestions going forward? Advice...don't buy a rebuilt titled car...you WILL have issues!
Tanks are hard to come by as Corporate has limited stock to the dealers due to the warranty replacement. Some people have waited months to get theirs replaced. Could be why you're getting the run-around.
Have you tried getting a CarFax report on the car? You could probably glean the name of the dealership that un-warrantied the car off it.
OP - contact DodgeCares on this forum. She may be able to help you out with that warranty issue.
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/member.php?u=55442
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/member.php?u=55442
I've been on a waiting list for over 3 months now for mine :frown2:
I just sent Dodgecares a pm...hopefully she can help. You know, it shouldn't matter what dealer restricted/cancelled the warrantee...this is a safety problem and warrantee restriction should be waived in order to fix it, and Corporate can give out/extend/modify what ever kind of warrantee they choose for one of their cars/trucks. They use adding an extended warrantee option a lot when a customer has a nagging minor problem they can't fix to his satisfaction...been there done that with Chevrolet. I will probly post the tail end of this if/when I get it resolved in the 19 page saga about fuel tank replacements. Thanks for the link invictu
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Have you kept in touch with your dealer? I was told the same thing and got a call the following week that the tank was in. I have been following the same service writer to this third dealership since I bought my car new in 06, so maybe he had something to do with the quick turn aroun . Good luck.
OP, I'm chasing a similar problem with my 06, under WOT the car drops to idle, doesn't stall just stops going, let off the pedal it returns to normal and drives fine. I can approach top speed with a slower acceleration and no problems. Stomp on it and it goes momentarily then cuts out completely. The tank was replaced and I had them replace both fuel pumps while they were at it. It's also stalled twice while warming up in the garage. Weird
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