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#1 Old 02-18-2014, 12:00 PM
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Tie Rod vs Tie Rod Ends (Difference)

Took my car to an auto shop for an oil change & tire rotation and no more than 30 minutes later I get a call saying my Tie Rod Ends need replacing and that vehicle shouldn't be driven. Of course I ask them not to touch a thing.

I began searching online for Tie Rods, Tie Rod ends if my car needs inner and outer, if it even requires both, etc. Long story short they are asking over $500 for 3.4 hours of labor. I was able to find the exact brand (Moog) inner and outer ends for $111 through o'reilly.

Guys help me out. I honestly don't know what I'm doing or looking for $500 seems excessive

I drive a 2007 Dodge Charger V6 3.5L...i think i do know that it is RWD for sure.
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It's likely you do need tie rod ends, these cars go thru em like crazy, but $500 is a bit excessive. Find another shop or go to someone who's mechanically inclined. Not a huge deal to replace em.


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Thank you so much for the info. Is it safe to assume that Tie Rods and Tie Rod Ends are the same things?
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Thank you so much for the info. Is it safe to assume that Tie Rods and Tie Rod Ends are the same things?
Nope. The tie rod is the metal rod that the inner and outer tie rod ends thread onto. The inner connects to the steering rack and the outer has the ball joint that allows the wheels to turn.

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Nope. The tie rod is the metal rod that the inner and outer tie rod ends thread onto. The inner connects to the steering rack and the outer has the ball joint that allows the wheels to turn.
Mindblow! This makes sense though. I did ask the folks at the shop this same question they insisted that the inner and outer rods needs replacing. I'll guess they meant the TIE ROD ENDS.
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Tie rod ends are the outer rods. If they said you need both, then you need the inner and the tie rod end. And again, these cars eat em up, so I'm sure they're not bull****ting you. But you can do much better on the price. Last time I had em done I got full sets from rock auto and had my shop put em in since it was cold as hell. Charged me around $200 for labor. Killed me to pay for something I have done myself, but still better than freezing my nuts off.
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Go woth moogs, replace all four. You can do it yourself with a jack and basic tools very easily. Then take it for an alignment. I did mine in under two hours and I also did a ball joint at same time.


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Use Moog, do it yourself. Now if your are doing your tie rods....do both lower ball joints at the same time to save yourself sometime and headache...the ball joints will fail next so replace them and be done for 50k

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Use the Moog problem solver greaseable parts.

The car must be raised and put on jackstands or on a lift to proceed

This is the outer tie rod end


This is the inner and the tool required to remove it


You have to remove this boot on the rack to gain access


Take a measurement before removing outers (for rough toe setting)


You're going to need this tool to release the tie rod ends


Then you can remove the outers with a pair of adjustable wrenches. Then remove the boot clamps, you may have to replace the inner with a narrow hose clamp. But If you're careful the inner one can be reused. remove the boot ,then place the tie rod tool (from HFT)with the crow foot on the inner and break loose with a 1/2" drive breaker bar or long handle ratchet



Installation is the reverse, Torque the inner to MFG spec or spec provided by moog, reinstall the boot/clamps, install the new jam nut/tie rod end and adjust to measurements taken before removal. Place the tapered studs in the spindle, tighten,torque to spec, install cotter key. Put the wheels on lower the car and go get an alignment.

If you need pics on how to change the tension strut or the lower ball joint I can post those up too, the tension strut is pretty easy, but the lower ball joints are a PITA unless you have the correct Miller tools (and a torch) to remove them., D

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