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Old 03-21-2013, 11:36 AM
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2014 Charger--8-speed auto with 5.7 Hemi

I had a friend that went to the Auto Show in Atlanta a week or so ago. He talked to the Chrysler folks there and asked about the availability of the 8-speed ZF trans in the 2014 Dodge Charger R/T with 5.7 Hemi. They said that there are NO plans to put the 8-speed in the Charger with the hemi for 2014. Does anyone have any infomation to the contrary? I've been waiting for them to put that transmission in the Hemi Charger for well over a year. If this is true, it is very disappointing news. I may have to look at another vehicle and forget the Charger as much as I wanted to get one. I will not get one with the existing transmission. I drove one with that transmission and it was not suited for a performance Charger (I want the Road and Track R/T version). Any info will be appreciated. Particularly from ResumeSpeed if he is still on this forum.
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Thats poopy.

First off, they dont provide a manual transmission, next they may not provide the ZF for the Hemi's??

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Anything said by "reps" at autoshows, especially ones that are not major shows like Detroit or LA should be given the same reliability rating as.......I dunno, anything ever said by a politician? But I hate to bring such utterings up to even that level.

Even dealership information is more likely to be accurate..........
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right now the higher torque capacity ZF8 speed is being phased into the trucks and grand cherokees, where they'll have a much bigger impact on CAFE (epa ratings for the 8 speed hemi truck are like 17/23 vs. 14/19 for the 68RE tranny) as they sell A LOT more V8 trucks than they do V8 LX's...

with all the other projects going on, the LX mid-cycle refresh has been pushed out to model year 2015, and the ZF8 speed will be available behind the hemi then. I have contacts with a tier1 that works on parts for the LX's...the 8 speed shifter will also be different than the current one
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What Pat said. For MY14, the only things I expect to see changed are the SRT specific logo steering wheel, (no more 'Dodge' logo/name), and the 8.4AN to replace the 8.4N. Other than that, perhaps some exterior color changes, (keep the White mother Chrysler, PLEASE).
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8-spd V8 isn't going to happen for 2014...MAYBE with the 2015 "refresh"
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ResumeSpeed and Ralph also said that 2014 hemis will launch with the 5 speed.
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Well, I guess that takes care of that. I don't think my wife will want to wait another year and a half. It was going to be her car. We will probably start looking at a new Toyota 4-runner for her.

At least I have the 2009 Challenger 6-speed as well as my 69 Charger 440/4-speed that I'm rebuilding.

I wanted to make it a all Chrysler household (I have a 2005 Dodge Truck) but sometimes things are just not meant to be.
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Oy. Spouses don't let spouses get 4-Runners. Just get the 5-sp tranny with the V8, believe me you will want for nothing.
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Well, I guess that takes care of that. I don't think my wife will want to wait another year and a half. It was going to be her car. We will probably start looking at a new Toyota 4-runner for her.

At least I have the 2009 Challenger 6-speed as well as my 69 Charger 440/4-speed that I'm rebuilding.

I wanted to make it a all Chrysler household (I have a 2005 Dodge Truck) but sometimes things are just not meant to be.
okay....so because the hemi is only available with a 5 speed tranny, you're instead going to a SUV thats 150lbs heaver than an RWD V-8 charger (or 75 lbs heavier than an AWD V-8 charger), EPA highway ratings 2-4MPG worse with an engine that makes 100HP less, and has a......5 speed automatic transmission.....that's some logic there....

what's wrong with the V6? an AWD charger SXT 8-speed is 100 lbs lighter than a 4-runner, EPA highway ratings are ~6mpg better (drop 100 lbs and add 4mpg for RWD), HP is 22-30 more than the 4-runner's 4L v6


after 15 months with it, I have NO complaints about the performance of the 5 speed NAG1 behind the 5.7. the powerband is so wide, and it shifts crisp enough that I don't feel the extra 3 gear ratios are necessary.....

but hey, it's your (or more accurately, your wife's) decision and money....at least take a 5 speed V8 and an 8 speed V6 for a test drive....
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