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#1 Old 07-19-2012, 09:18 PM
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86760 miles on 7 oil changes...continuing proof.....

Many wonder what will happen to my engine if I use QuantumBlue over the long haul. One individual oil change.....all by itself......is a data point but not all inclusive.

This has been a long term validation of what our formulas do in a regular 5.7L MDS Hemi run every day in typical use......using a Predator and modifications as well.

Jed's OCD has now gone 86,760 miles on 7 oil changes. He is averaging 12,394.29 miles per oil change.

Like Kid Rock likes to say......."it aint arrogence if you can prove it!"

Well these numbers do not lie about the protection of QuantumBlue Custom Blends.

His most recent is 14,899 miles on one change!

At the beginning, he started at 30,928 miles when he switched from Mobil 1 to QuantumBlue for his first oil change.

From that point, the oil changes went like this:

12,307 miles
11,286 miles
12,000 miles
11,106 miles
12,401 miles
12,761 miles
14,899 miles on his most recent one!



17 ppm iron divided by 14.899 = 1.14 ppm per 1000 miles!
0 chromium....no ring wear!
0 lead....no bearing wear!
4 ppm aluminum div by 14.899 = 26.8 100ths of 1 ppm per 1000 miles!
0 nickel....no valve wear!

So basically this engine now has 117,252 miles with the oil keeping this engine from wearing basically at all.

What are the dollars and cents?

Using this months special as an example.....$12.76 per quart x 7 = $89.32 + free oil filter = $89.32 + $15.75(shipping from Ohio to California) = $105.07.

$105.07 div by 14.899= $7.05 per 1000 miles.

Typical off the shelf synthetics are $6.75 per quart x 7 = $47.25 + $6.50 for an oil filter = $53.75 x 1.07 (tax) = $57.51.

$57.51 div by 5 = $11.50 per 1000 miles....assuming a 5k mile oil change.

So for 14,899 miles with typical synthetics would be $11.50 x 14.899 =$171.34!

Also, Jed gets to keep 2.3 hours of his life doing something else besides waiting in a service facility room while his oil isn't changed as often!

So yes, price is a one time thing, but cost is a life time thing! Cheaper to use and better protection......best of both worlds.

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can someone else verify this information this is a good result test for this engine. As I just dont honestly have a clue what is a "good" return results for all this "ingredients". Now Im still fairly skeptical regarding this whole bnd stuff and custom blend ect. However you said this oil change is 15k miles? what excatly are your intervals...im not worried about miledge but more so in duration of time...My car is strictly a fun car for me so i dont even hit 6k in 6 months unless i just went on vacation with it like that past week, so sometimes i feel like throwing money down the toilet when its only 3k on sythenic and its at 6 months and the book is very clear about changing at mile interval or time interval whichever comes first. I just have one last oil change with mobil 1...and I just might contemplate switching to try this "magic" stuff if the time interval is longer than 6 months.


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WOW!!

That is pretty cool. Its hard to imagine that I only need to change oil once every two years...But again and again I keep seeing proof!

Thanks for posting up

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can someone else verify this information this is a good result test for this engine. As I just dont honestly have a clue what is a "good" return results for all this "ingredients".

I will be happy to post some examples of "good oil analysis" comparisons that are considered normal. Also will post where these different metals come from.

Any good analysis will have 3 sections.....wear metals, contaminants, and additive packages. This is why we like ALS as they break them out well.

Just to be fair though, here is one from Royal Purple on a WRX with 6,500 miles on the change. Blackstone said this was a "good" sample.




Look at the iron, chromium, lead, aluminum and nickel. Remember that we are looking at numbers from 6,500 vs 14,899. This sample from Royal Purple is 2.29 times less mileage with more wear!

With all due respect, you can't get better than zero. If you can reduce the chromium, lead, and nickel, those are the moving wear metals you want to really focus on!

Here is another sample from ALS on a 5.7L Hemi with just over 40k miles using Mobil 1 and 4,900 miles on the sample. Similar year, type, and usage temps and conditions:




Look at the iron, chromium, lead, aluminum, and nickel. Compare it with our 14,899 sample. This is more than 3 times less mileage on the Mobil 1 with much more wear!

Here is an example of where these different ingredients come from:



Now Im still fairly skeptical regarding this whole bnd stuff and custom blend ect. However you said this oil change is 15k miles?

Basically 101 miles less than 15k miles.



what excatly are your intervals...im not worried about mileage but more so in duration of time...My car is strictly a fun car for me so i dont even hit 6k in 6 months unless i just went on vacation with it like that past week, so sometimes i feel like throwing money down the toilet when its only 3k on sythenic and its at 6 months and the book is very clear about changing at mile interval or time interval whichever comes first.

We recommend initially 10k miles. After that, we move up based on actual oil analysis. If we know you are going to use the car for fun and not even get to the miles in 6 months we can blend the oil to incorporate the longer interval time wise before you get to the higher mileages so that you don't have to dump it constantly every 6 months etc. 1 change can last for 2 years if it is under the 10k miles.

Here is a 6.1L Hemi Challenger with 15k miles on one change....12.5w40. Again, you can see the iron, chromium, lead, aluminum and nickel. Similar results show consistency!



I just have one last oil change with mobil 1...and I just might contemplate switching to try this "magic" stuff if the time interval is longer than 6 months.
We would make a 5w40 QuantumBlue Ultra High Performance 6.4L VVT Cam Phaser Custom Blend for your new 2012. We would just use the compendium of knowledge gleaned from all the analysis results of our 40,000+ customers to produce exactly what you would need!

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WOW!!

That is pretty cool. Its hard to imagine that I only need to change oil once every two years...But again and again I keep seeing proof!

Thanks for posting up
D. Glad you had a chance to see the results from Jed's car. He was very happy to see how far he could go. From what I gleaned from him, he didn't really mean to go quite that far, but he was so busy with work that it just racked up that fast.

Extra protection where and when you need it.

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This is the real deal with a real Guy.

Jed is a good friend and Part of our So Cal car club Mopar360.

His car runs great and Jed drives this car in the extreme heat out here non stop.

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This is the real deal with a real Guy.

Jed is a good friend and Part of our So Cal car club Mopar360.

His car runs great and Jed drives this car in the extreme heat out here non stop.
Jim,

Thank you for verifying that Jed is a real person with a 2008 Charger R/T 5.7L MDS Hemi and that it runs good using our products!

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how much for the coolant and transmission fluid kit..

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The coolant is $72.98 for 2 gallons of concentrate. Use distilled water at a 50/50 mixture and you will be good for 5 years or 150k miles.

The transfluid....Hemi/3.5L Transmission Pan Drain and Fill Special: 8 quarts QuantumBlue transmission fluid appropriate for 42RLE and NAG1/W5A580 transmission + QuantumBlue Transmission Filter Kit - 4 speed....42RLE-$130.08 and 5 speed.....NAG1-$142.58.

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So here's another take of equal consideration. This is an apples to apples comparison long term(miles) user as well.

Using this oil analysis 2006 hemi rt 187k miles mutiple changes over 10k miles Penzoil Platium, not ultra.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...2566052&page=1

What are the dollars and cents?

Using this months special as an example.....$12.76 per quart x 7 = $89.32 + free oil filter = $89.32 + $15.75(shipping from Ohio to California) = $105.07.

$105.07 div by 14.899= $7.05 per 1000 miles.

Okay.


Walmart ...Penzoil Platium synthetic are $5.00 per quart x 7 = $35.00+ $6.50 for an oil filter = $41.50 x 3.63(NYtax) = $45.13. ( If you get it on sale it will be even cheaper)

$45.13 div by 15.05 = $3.00 per 1000 miles....based on a 15,053 mile oil change.

So the savings for using a top off the shelf synthetic is $105.07-$45.03 = $59.94 So with today's oil change..... included in the cost of the oil change is night out with the family at Playland, or 16 gallons of gas.


So yes, price is a one time thing, but cost is a life time thing! Cheaper to use and equivelent protection at least for this comparison......best of both worlds.

Let me be clear I'm not saying its not a good or even great oil ...it appears to be great, but for me I cant justify the 250% plus price differential. If I run P.Platium in my car and can get consistent numbers as shown in the link above its a cost effective alternative route.

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