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post #1 of 29 Old 02-04-2012, 02:49 PM Thread Starter
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Blue Top Solenoids....my take on 'em

First let me start with saying this mod is not for everyone! I repeat it is not for everyone

So now that I have been driving the car for three hours in traffic, in the country on the highway and around town......This is a mod you know is there. During normal driving the shifts are not harsh but happen very quick and so do the downshifts which are very noticeable. When braking hard, the transmission downshifts to aid in braking.....well with the blue tops the downshifts really help with the braking. On ice and snow a panic brake situation will most likely cause the rear to lock up and slide out. It will even do this on wet roads, I know this for a fact. However this extra firm downshift does seem to really help with braking this is a plus in the summer I am guessing

Okay now the fun stuff, when you put the car in gear it doesnt slide into gear it lunges the entire car into gear. There is no gentle engagement here it is solid and the car will try and pull through the brakes when it engages, it does this in both drive and reverse. Also the engagement into drive from reverse and vice versa seems to be much quicker I never timed it but this was one thing that drove me insane about this transmission, that is the delay from drive to reverse and back. This is gone.

Under WOT the shifts are very quick and firm. To be honest I dont think they are any firmer than before but then again with wet pavement I wasnt really able to test this. But the speed of the shifts is much quicker, this is something you hear more than feel. Under moderate acceleration the shifts are again very quick and firm. If you drive aggressive like me or I should say accelerate aggressively compared to the traffic around you....you will notice firmer shifts during your daily drive, this is way better than the predator setting

All in all I am very happy with this less than $370 mod. I think winter driving will be a little more tricky, but then again it will force me to slow down and leave plenty of space ahead of me knowing that the downshifts are very firm

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Where did you buy the solenoids?

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This thing sounds awesome. I live in Seattle where it rains 9 months out of the year. Do you think this will potentially be a horrible mod to have? I still have stock tires and they already have a hard time keeping traction with my current mods and the way I drive.

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Mods are all bolt-ons for now. I'll update when I get soemthing significant.
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How was the install?


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Didnt want to waste a new tread, i cant find the installation procedure now that i have the solenoids


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Install is easy. Drop the Trans pan. Pull the filter and then disconnect the electrical connection that goes into the valve body. Then remove the valve body. On the back side of the valve body are the solenoids. Simply unbolt and replace
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I know the NAG1 (722.6) transmission is not the most heavy duty transmission out there, how will it hold up against the much firmer shifts and the strong downshifts? I read a few threads about these Blue Top Solenoids, you can apparently get them from Mercedes themselves since they are used in their AMG products and up the TQ resistance in the transmission from low 400s to the 700s, but I would imagine the constant "slam" into and out of gear would take its toll on these transmissions, no?


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The quicker and firmer the shift the longer the clutch packs last. The nag1 is rated for 580 ft/lbs of torque...it's not a weak transmission
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The quicker and firmer the shift the longer the clutch packs last. The nag1 is rated for 580 ft/lbs of torque...it's not a weak transmission
Makes sense, I guess that's why removing the torque management with the Predator doesn't really do harm to the transmission. But I could've sworn I read it's rated at 427 ft/lbs of torque which, for a widely used transmission, seemed low to me. Learn something new every day, I suppose!

What about mounts? Would the in and out of gears lower the life expectancy of the trans and/or engine mounts?
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