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Old 05-30-2009, 11:18 PM   #1
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My car has had a intermitent delayed start up since I've owned it....

......the dealer saw it on my first visit....and replaced my fuel rail. I still have the same problem. The dealer didn't encounter it on my second visit. This happens about every 1/4 starts I have. They said their was no TSB. But, it's driving me crazy. This is a 25-30K car that looks like ass every now and then when starting up. My best description would be a weak battery, but it does start up every time, just delayed about 1-2 sec. Has anyone had this problem and if so what was the cure. My warranty is running up soon and I want this fixed before it runs up. Please help. I will have video up soon, for you guys and my dealer.
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So you are saying that it cranks for a while before it actually starts?


Some guy on lx had a similar problem. Only worse, the car would crank just fine but would never fire. Turned out to be a bad fuel pump.

If it has been there since day one I would doubt a bad battery.
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My '07 started doing something like I think you are describing at about 15,000 miles. It only happens with the first startup in the morning. I turn the key and it feels like the starter didn't engage and then after a second it starts. I described what was happening to the service manager but they couldn't find anything wrong. I guess I'll have to push the car to the dealership for the next service so my first startup of the day will be in front of them!!
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Could be a bad ignition switch.
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ACES IV!

Prior to using ACES IV, I had a bit of a delay as well. With ACES IV, that delay (which was also intermittent) was gone. I ran out of ACES over a tank ago, and do you know what reared its ugly head again? Yup, that delay start!

I gotta get me more ACES!
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......the dealer saw it on my first visit....and replaced my fuel rail. I still have the same problem. The dealer didn't encounter it on my second visit. This happens about every 1/4 starts I have. They said their was no TSB. But, it's driving me crazy. This is a 25-30K car that looks like ass every now and then when starting up. My best description would be a weak battery, but it does start up every time, just delayed about 1-2 sec. Has anyone had this problem and if so what was the cure. My warranty is running up soon and I want this fixed before it runs up. Please help. I will have video up soon, for you guys and my dealer.
Try a different starting routine? Turn the key to full accessory on to get the fuel system primed. Wait 3-5 seconds, then crank.
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We may need a better description of exactly is or isn't happening. If you are turning the key immediately from OFF to START, the delay could be because the PCM is performing a throttle body motor calibration. This takes about 2 seconds and the starter won't engage until that test is completed since the throttle plate is opened all the way and then closed again. Try turning the key to ON and wait until the fuel pump stops running. Then turn the key to START and see if there is a delay in starter engagement.
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ive had the delay.....even worse...ive had the car fire, then die....a half dozen or so times....thats the only time my car gives me any problems though.....
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Good recommendations here. Need more detail. May be similar to the new Challenger RRT 09-0019 where a higher output battery and cable are installed. This is for hot restarts where the STARTER/spin delays. Not the signal to the starter. Two different items.
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toycrypt-if you have a 05/06 with a 2.7 or 3.5 there is a TSB for your problem the TSB#18-031-06.You need to give year and engine so we know what to look for.There are lots of TSBs but depends what you have.I had this happen to my wifes 08 Liberty.It started out like yours,then one day nothing happened,and it turned out to be the WCM.

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