Just found this on Yahoo today and thought I would pose the question.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/muscle-car-over-145900463.html
Well, that was fun. Five decades of stonking American horsepower have come to an end.
Bloomberg's Jing Cao has the story:
Ford Motor Co.’s Mustang has pulled ahead of its perennial rival, GM’s Chevrolet Camaro, in part by offering a smaller engine that’s turbocharged to satisfy the need for speed and threatens to send the V-8 to the boneyard.
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The four-cylinder option contributed to the surge in Mustang deliveries, according to a Bloomberg Intelligence report released Thursday. Consumers prefer the smaller engine because the turbo technology boosts both horsepower and fuel efficiency, said Kevin Tynan, a Bloomberg Intelligence analyst.
“The landscape is really changing,” he said in an interview. “The younger car culture doesn’t need big V-8s anymore. This is the way we’re going to make horsepower in the future.”
There used to be a big debate about whether smaller, 6-cylinder engines disqualified Stangs and Camaros that had those motors from consideration as muscle cars. Sure, the V8 versions made the cut. But the V6s were for poseurs.
The advent of widespread turbocharging in the auto industry has changed that. Even turbo fours can serve up respectable horsepower. Who cares what you have under the hood?
There's been some talk lately that muscle cars are turning into sports cars. Business Insider's Ben Zhang made this case in his review of the 2015 Mustang GT (he had the old-school 5.0-liter V8 version, but the car has received a massive update to the way it handles, a big departure from previous generations). Muscle cars are all-American and, for their history, were supposed to get their patriotic power from big, loud V8s.
Sports cars, meanwhile, have more of a European lineage. As does turbocharging.
Younger folks don't seem to give a hoot about this distinction. A Mustang or Camaro is a fast fun car in the same way a Porsche is. For the muscle-car diehards, this brand of thinking is heresy. Give me a big V8 or give me death!
Unfortunately, the whole V8 premise — and the premise of the large-displacement, naturally aspirated engine generally — is becoming increasingly indefensible. The future belongs to fuel economy. So if you want a "real" muscle car in the 2020s, you may have to buy one used.
Update: Some have noted that the muscle car lives on in the form of Dodge vehicles packing V8 Hellcat Hemi power and obnoxious levels of horsepower. Fair enough. But the whole Hemi thing strikes me as the smallest of the Detroit Big Three protesting too much against the decline of muscle. Is a 707-horsepower Dodge Challenger a muscle car? Or an over-muscled car? It's more like a supercar than a muscle car, really.
I personally hope it isn't but with 37.8 mpg by 2016 for cars and combined at 34.1, it may really become harder and harder to have the V8 and Hellcat type power. I know that typically the high end cars are very few in number but the Hellcat has even surprised Chrysler or FCA.
For me, I have my V8s and have no desire to get rid of either of them. CAFE be damned! It looks like 1972 and 1985 are coming back around again!
Regards,
Brian
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/muscle-car-over-145900463.html
Well, that was fun. Five decades of stonking American horsepower have come to an end.
Bloomberg's Jing Cao has the story:
Ford Motor Co.’s Mustang has pulled ahead of its perennial rival, GM’s Chevrolet Camaro, in part by offering a smaller engine that’s turbocharged to satisfy the need for speed and threatens to send the V-8 to the boneyard.
...
The four-cylinder option contributed to the surge in Mustang deliveries, according to a Bloomberg Intelligence report released Thursday. Consumers prefer the smaller engine because the turbo technology boosts both horsepower and fuel efficiency, said Kevin Tynan, a Bloomberg Intelligence analyst.
“The landscape is really changing,” he said in an interview. “The younger car culture doesn’t need big V-8s anymore. This is the way we’re going to make horsepower in the future.”
There used to be a big debate about whether smaller, 6-cylinder engines disqualified Stangs and Camaros that had those motors from consideration as muscle cars. Sure, the V8 versions made the cut. But the V6s were for poseurs.
The advent of widespread turbocharging in the auto industry has changed that. Even turbo fours can serve up respectable horsepower. Who cares what you have under the hood?
There's been some talk lately that muscle cars are turning into sports cars. Business Insider's Ben Zhang made this case in his review of the 2015 Mustang GT (he had the old-school 5.0-liter V8 version, but the car has received a massive update to the way it handles, a big departure from previous generations). Muscle cars are all-American and, for their history, were supposed to get their patriotic power from big, loud V8s.
Sports cars, meanwhile, have more of a European lineage. As does turbocharging.
Younger folks don't seem to give a hoot about this distinction. A Mustang or Camaro is a fast fun car in the same way a Porsche is. For the muscle-car diehards, this brand of thinking is heresy. Give me a big V8 or give me death!
Unfortunately, the whole V8 premise — and the premise of the large-displacement, naturally aspirated engine generally — is becoming increasingly indefensible. The future belongs to fuel economy. So if you want a "real" muscle car in the 2020s, you may have to buy one used.
Update: Some have noted that the muscle car lives on in the form of Dodge vehicles packing V8 Hellcat Hemi power and obnoxious levels of horsepower. Fair enough. But the whole Hemi thing strikes me as the smallest of the Detroit Big Three protesting too much against the decline of muscle. Is a 707-horsepower Dodge Challenger a muscle car? Or an over-muscled car? It's more like a supercar than a muscle car, really.
I personally hope it isn't but with 37.8 mpg by 2016 for cars and combined at 34.1, it may really become harder and harder to have the V8 and Hellcat type power. I know that typically the high end cars are very few in number but the Hellcat has even surprised Chrysler or FCA.
For me, I have my V8s and have no desire to get rid of either of them. CAFE be damned! It looks like 1972 and 1985 are coming back around again!
Regards,
Brian