Well, I don't know what part of the U.S. you're talking about... maybe around ND? They have really great roads up there, but as a whole, our infrastructure SUCKS! As for the quality of our drivers, we have A LOT of very talented drivers out there, and many that are not so talented lol. If we could just take away the cell phones, IPODs, and whatever else they are using, we would be just fine. I personally worked with a few cops who were worse drivers than average... and we were running very fast on calls.
Many of our roads, were you to remove the idiot drivers, and require functional equipment, would just fine for speeds 15-25 higher than they have now. And a lot of sections would be okay for unlimited speeds. Who really goes 55 for instance, on Rt 70 once your clear of Indy or Terre Haute? Or Rt 65?
Big chunks of 64 east of Louisville, for instance. Great road. And these are just roads I personally have driven, and only a few. Should every mile of these roads be unlimited? Of course not, but most of the autobahn has limits also.
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Let me explain it to you. While we have thousands of miles of raodways that are autobahn quality, we have very, very few drivers of autobahn quality, and even those few who are have to share the roadway with poor drivers driving equally poor cars.
Drivers in Germany take well over a year to be trained, at a cost over $1500 for that training. Cars in Germany have to pass rigorous exams on a regular basis. Not just emissions equipment, but every aspect of the car gets looked at. Including a first aid kit with an expiration date that's current. Leaks of fluids are a fail. Here in MD, a car gets maybe half that, but only when it's sold, you can buy a car and never have it looked at again.
So thats why we cant have autobahns, because Americans would break out the pitchforks and torches were any politician to recommend real driver training and real vehicle inspections.
GLH - Thanks for the info....I was not aware of the Autobahn requirements....(I was aware of our poor drivers). Good stuff!
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......Drivers in Germany take well over a year to be trained, at a cost over $1500 for that training....... / ...... Americans would break out the pitchforks and torches were any politician to recommend real driver training and real vehicle inspections.
Many European countries have much stricter training requirements for drivers. The phrase "If you want to win, employ a Fin" didn't come about just because it sounds catchy. The U.S. could be much more thorough on driver training. They don't because too many people feel it's a "right" and not a privilege, and they'd be up in arms if it cost more, and was harder to obtain.
Also as you noted. People would have a fit if vehicle inspections were more restrictive. They'd, of course, blame the mean ol' police for enforcing the violations too. You know because they should be catching "real criminals", since making sure a car is safe to run at 150+ mph would just be harassment. Ha ha. Oh yeah, I could see that whole thing going south real fast.
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......we have A LOT of very talented drivers out there, and many that are not so talented lol......
True but a lot of the not so talented drivers seem to think, for some crazy reason, that they are the talented ones. I've seen many people drive beyond their ability (professionals included).
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This thread was good until i got to page 3 lol i've been about 115 on a public country road. I don't really have any of the weird excuses that I've read. I simply pushed the pedal because i wanted to see what this "Hemi" would do! Plain and simple. i don't see the need for everyone to get all defensive or offensive for that matter. The OP posted a ? if you didn't like the topic keep it moving or go start a thread saying who thinks speeders are stupid. It's a open forum about a muscle car don't be surprised to see that people drive them fast.
It is hard not to open the HEMI up! It is just chosing a proper spot to do it. I know I cannot always help myself, but I always try to do it in a "safe manner". It sucks having winter tires on a bit because you cannot open it up too far.
I thought I might point out how there are 2 squares in the room that do not push it past 10 over. LMAO.
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Thats fine to each his own, but don't preach to everyone else on a Car Forum about not speeding. It happens when i get into i back off within seconds. It gets up moves out my thrill is satisfied.
Let me explain it to you. While we have thousands of miles of raodways that are autobahn quality, we have very, very few drivers of autobahn quality, and even those few who are have to share the roadway with poor drivers driving equally poor cars.
Drivers in Germany take well over a year to be trained, at a cost over $1500 for that training. Cars in Germany have to pass rigorous exams on a regular basis. Not just emissions equipment, but every aspect of the car gets looked at. Including a first aid kit with an expiration date that's current. Leaks of fluids are a fail. Here in MD, a car gets maybe half that, but only when it's sold, you can buy a car and never have it looked at again.
So thats why we cant have autobahns, because Americans would break out the pitchforks and torches were any politician to recommend real driver training and real vehicle inspections.
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Well, I don't know what part of the U.S. you're talking about... maybe around ND? They have really great roads up there, but as a whole, our infrastructure SUCKS! As for the quality of our drivers, we have A LOT of very talented drivers out there, and many that are not so talented lol. If we could just take away the cell phones, IPODs, and whatever else they are using, we would be just fine. I personally worked with a few cops who were worse drivers than average... and we were running very fast on calls.
That is a huge problem within the driving public. I see so many people texting and talking on their cellphones or drinking or eating it's crazy. When I drive, I am 100% focus.
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Thats fine to each his own, but don't preach to everyone else on a Car Forum about not speeding. It happens when i get into i back off within seconds. It gets up moves out my thrill is satisfied.
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Keep those votes coming in!!! so many people have view this I would love to see more resonses!!!
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Properly functioning vehicle equipment is important, not only on the Autobahn, but while on the interstates as well. There's a road in Texas that has a speed limit of 85, and for many years, several roads in Montana were like the Autobahn. Regardless of the roads, you want properly inflated tires, good brakes, steering, headlights (recommended for use even in daytime when operating at high speed), and many other things that should be inspected for safety.
Now, I am more of a libertarian kind of guy, so I believe that people should be responsible for their actions. If they hurt someone else, they have to pay the price. I really don't believe in victimless crimes... in fact, that's one of the reasons why I decided not to return to law enforcement. I was a peace officer... not an enforcer.
If people wish to go fast, they 'should' be responsible and never drive beyond their abilities. ... and while driving fast on calls was really fun, I am not sure what our tires were rated for. I know our cars were police packaged, but if the tires weren't rated for the speeds we were driving, we could've been playing Russian roulette.
Properly functioning vehicle equipment is important, not only on the Autobahn, but while on the interstates as well. There's a road in Texas that has a speed limit of 85, and for many years, several roads in Montana were like the Autobahn. Regardless of the roads, you want properly inflated tires, good brakes, steering, headlights (recommended for use even in daytime when operating at high speed), and many other things that should be inspected for safety.
Now, I am more of a libertarian kind of guy, so I believe that people should be responsible for their actions. If they hurt someone else, they have to pay the price. I really don't believe in victimless crimes... in fact, that's one of the reasons why I decided not to return to law enforcement. I was a peace officer... not an enforcer.
If people wish to go fast, they 'should' be responsible and never drive beyond their abilities. ... and while driving fast on calls was really fun, I am not sure what our tires were rated for. I know our cars were police packaged, but if the tires weren't rated for the speeds we were driving, we could've been playing Russian roulette.
Every pursuit rated car I know of has tires rated to match. The higher geared CVPI I think was limited to 130. All of Dodges police cars get 150mph tires.
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Every pursuit rated car I know of has tires rated to match. The higher geared CVPI I think was limited to 130. All of Dodges police cars get 150mph tires.
The regular geared 4.6 lead sleds ran out of thrust at 130 MPH (we had them pegged on every run). Now the 3.55 geared sled was limited to about 120. I just wasn't sure about the tires... you would have thought that they did add H rated tires to the police packaged sleds and a higher rating for the Charger pursuit. That wasn't a concern of mine when I was on duty, but now that I know more about cars, I looked back and wondered lol.
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