2011 Headers on 2012 Model

[KINGCHARGER12]

Would these fit on my 2012 RT MAX AWD? However, if they do am I correct in assuming that I won't get any real benefit besides noise until they come out with a tuner?

http://www.shophemi.com/p-2425-ameri...rs-w-cats.aspx

[joem_]

yep, they'll fit.

nope, the tuner is only used to prevent CEL with the new o2 sensor data. You may get CELs - if these are long-tube headers.

With shorty headers, you won't get CEL, but then again you won't get the gain you will with LT headers.

[bigjohndallas]

yea u wont see much gains with a stock tune.. but when a tuner comes out?? u will for sure benefit from those mods... now if u really like ot feel that 390+ ft lbs of Tq, do the no ESC mod. ur car will feel alot more powerful... unless u have the super track pack with the 3way TC switch, u can't disable the ESC... its a very easy mod to do... if i get the current project completed on my 68 mustang, i should be able to do the no ESC mod this week... i know guys that have done it and its one of thier most noticable mod yet on the 2nd gen cars...

[joem_]

Originally Posted by bigjohndallas

yea u wont see much gains with a stock tune.. but when a tuner comes out?? u will for sure benefit from those mods...

I disagree. Having a tuner will not "increase" the benefits of headers. Yeah, you'll get other benefits from tuning, but there is nothing you can tune to make the engine "use" the headers more effectively.