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Hemi31 · #21 07-07-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by daveblank

Excuse my ignorance here but, if it's a common problem that the pistons break, then why add the turbo & then drive it to the shop for a tune? By your own admission there could have been a previous problem & yet the tuner is receiving all the blame.

This whole thread seems to be about bashing Injected Engineering without a lick of proof that they have done anything wrong.

Like I said....I think the issue was the promise of a perfectly tuned car when that was not the case.Were the pistons popped before?Who knows?

bluecar1968 · #22 07-07-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by daveblank

Excuse my ignorance here but, if it's a common problem that the pistons break, then why add the turbo & then drive it to the shop for a tune? By your own admission there could have been a previous problem & yet the tuner is receiving all the blame.

This whole thread seems to be about bashing Injected Engineering without a lick of proof that they have done anything wrong.

I don't think they could of drove it with out some kind of can tune to compensate for the bigger injectors or different map sensor if they did that was ignorant.
I wasn't trying to bash injected engineering. just comment about the lx pcm inability to handle forced induction. No tuner can modify the factory pcm to get proper fuel control in closed loop boost. regardless of how rich they run them they are dangerously lean in part throttle boost untill they go open loop. This has been a problem for awhile and its something the tuners cant seem to address because of the limitations of the factory processor results seem to be the same broken piston ring lands

bluecar1968 · #23 07-07-2009, 10:57 AM

Even with the best engine on the market piston damage is still an issue if fuel and timing are not correct. Better pistons makes the engine more tolerant to improper fueling but improper fuel control can still destroy the best engine built . With the factory pcm regardless of tune under boost & closed loop bad things can still happen. I see big numbers on dynos but what about normal driving? most lx owners are more concerned about drivability as much as power what good is 600hp if it is only safe at wot. If I wanted a race car I would not use an lx. I as most lx owners want a car to drive on the street not just the track. I think his complaint was they were going to tune it for daily use and a few short miles later the engine blew

daveblank · #24 07-07-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hemi31

Like I said....I think the issue was the promise of a perfectly tuned car when that was not the case.

My point is.....How do we know for a fact that the tune is to blame? We don't. fingers are being pointed at the last repair shop. While it might be obvious to some, it's not to me.

Hemi31 · #25 07-07-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by daveblank

My point is.....How do we know for a fact that the tune is to blame? We don't. fingers are being pointed at the last repair shop. While it might be obvious to some, it's not to me.

Well considering it is impossible to tune part throttle boost how can a shop promise a good tune?And especially when they know it's a stock bottom end.

daveblank · #26 07-07-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hemi31

Well considering it is impossible to tune part throttle boost how can a shop promise a good tune?And especially when they know it's a stock bottom end.

How do we know he was promised a perfect tune? When I was a tech I had my words twisted many times. We're talking about a shop that seems to be known for good work. It seems illogical that they would purposely lie just to make a few hundred dollars. Am I saying that the OP is lying? NO, not in any way. I'm sure there was some form of mis communication, & since we weren't there, all we can truly do is wonder.

With that much said, I'll ask a question that I've been pondering on since one of your earlier post. You pretty much stated that pistons were a known problem & that getting a proper tune when boosted is near impossible. Should the OP shoulder some of the blame for not doing the research before adding the mods?

Hemi31 · #27 07-08-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by daveblank

With that much said, I'll ask a question that I've been pondering on since one of your earlier post. You pretty much stated that pistons were a known problem & that getting a proper tune when boosted is near impossible. Should the OP shoulder some of the blame for not doing the research before adding the mods?

Fair question......But how many Turbo and S/C companies will tell you what your chances of blowing the motor are?I am sure all the GSM customers were told it was all their fault as well once the sale was made.Same with all the Vortech cars that are blown up that you haven't heard about.You can research all you want,theres always a salesman that will tell you why that will never happen with their stuff.Would I accept some responsibility?Yes....but then again I know what I am getting into regardless what someone tells me.

viperbluelx · #28 07-08-2009, 04:05 PM

I've known Aric at Injected Engineering since he tuned my Vortech supercharged 99 Cobra back around 2003. For the past 6 years I've been sending customers to Injected for tuning. These are customers who value and respect my opinion as a shop owner. I would not send them to someone who will not back up their work. Aric just recently tuned my 2002 Harley F150 which came in with a tune from a well known and respected shop and still ran like crap, it was so bad I thought the transmission had issues. Aric took his time on the dyno dialing in WOT and then we took the truck out on the street so he could dial in all the part throttle and driveability. The truck ran flawlessly when I left. I'm doing a short block swap in my personal 98 Cobra with a Hellion kit and Aric will be tuning it when it's finished. Injected is the only shop in the Atlanta area that I would trust with tuning my own vehicle and trust me I've dealt with several of the "well known" shops that are plastered all over every web forum. I've saw a few replies where there are claims that their prices are high. My tuning price was right in line with what other reputable shops charge for tuning and their labor prices are in line with everyone else in the metro Atlanta area. We just did a ton of bolt-ons to a customers 04 Cobra and he can't believe how well the car runs after the new tune was finished. Injected is backed up for weeks with just tuning jobs, that doesn't happen unless you know what you're doing and stand behind it.

Mark Sexton

jrfive0 · #29 07-08-2009, 04:18 PM

sounds like you should have done some work to the bottom end or at least got it checked before spending all this money on the top end of the motor

mlschultz · #30 07-08-2009, 05:02 PM

I am a long time Injected Engineering customer. They have modified my stock 98 Lincoln Mark VIII into a 4000 pound 11 second sleeper over the past few years. Their professionalism, workmanship, integrity, and customer service is second to none.

I have had issues with my build, if you can imagine, trying to hot rod a luxury car that has zero performance parts specifically made for a Lincoln, and Injected Engineering resolved every single issue to my satisfaction.

Aric and Ryan have gone way out of their way to make sure I am happy, and have spent countless hours consulting, researching, and building my dream car. It is very much appreciated too. A lot of thought and time went into my build, and it shows.

I hope this situation can be resolved privately between the parties involved, as Aric and Ryan with Injected Engineering are good people, and the only place I will take my car to be serviced.