Comparison - Pontiac G8 GT vs. Dodge Charger R/T (merged)

[jtw715]

Originally Posted by BlackRT313

Your results are the performance numbers for the 08R&T not the 09. The 09's have been getting 5.0-5.3 0-60's since the upgraded Hemi's came out.

Either way, it's a driver's race. The cars are pretty much equal. I speak from experience.

[Repth]

Originally Posted by jtw715

Either way, it's a driver's race. The cars are pretty much equal. I speak from experience.

If the '08 R/T and the G8 GT were even with a "razor's edge" to the G8, then how could you possibly say something with 20 (or more; sorry I don't know the exact number) more horsepower is going to be a "driver's race". 20hp can do a whole lot.

[TripleTransAm]

Peak HP numbers mean nothing. Peak torque numbers mean nothing. Acceleration is ALL about:

1) torque curve at the wheels
2) vehicle weight
3) gearing (incl. tire height)
and to some lesser extent, depending on vehicle speeds
4) aerodynamics

It's why cars in the 200hp range have been known to whup cars in the 300hp range.

(and even then it's not black/white: the torque curve can change depending on torque management routines, spark knock retard, and so forth... along with time lost during upshifts, etc.)

[Grimlock]

Originally Posted by jtw715

Test Data from Motortrend. In short, it's a driver's race with a razor's edge to the G8.


Braking, 60-0 mph
Charger R/T: 137 ft
Pontiac G8 GT: 112 ft
Lateral acceleration:
Charger R/T: 0.79 g (avg)
Pontiac G8 GT: 0.88 g (avg)

Wow, the R/T gets its ass handed to it in those two areas. Not a "razors edge" but an ass kicking.

[roman371]

Originally Posted by jtw715

Test Data from Motortrend. In short, it's a driver's race with a razor's edge to the G8.



2009 SRT-8 vs 2009 G8 GXP

SRT 0-60: 4.9
GXP: 0-60: 4.7
SRT 1/4 mile: 13.2
GXP: 1/4 mile: 13.1

2009 SRT-8 vs 2009 G8 GXP

SRT 0-60: 4.9
GXP: 0-60: 4.7
SRT 1/4 mile: 13.2 @ 108.8
GXP: 1/4 mile: 13.1 @109.4
SRT Skidpad: .88g
GXP Skidpad: .88g
SRT Max Slalom Speed: 65.8 mph
GXP Max Slalom Speed: 65.0 mph
SRT8 Braking (80-0) 220 ft
GXP Graking (80-0) 221 ft
SRT Top Speed: 173 mph
GXP Top Speed: 155 mph
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...tiac_chart.pdf

[jtw715]

Originally Posted by Repth

If the '08 R/T and the G8 GT were even with a "razor's edge" to the G8, then how could you possibly say something with 20 (or more; sorry I don't know the exact number) more horsepower is going to be a "driver's race". 20hp can do a whole lot.

Torque management and a six speed auto transmission have a lot to do with it. Plus the G8 is 180# lighter than the Charger. Don't misread what I am trying to say. I am not looking for a pissing contest. I love both cars. Both cars are awesome. Both cars are the very last of a dying breed. And if you read the G8 boards, any owner (ruling out the requisite morons you find on any board) will tell you the same thing: Driver's race.

[jtw715]

Roman 371, I still think it's a driver's race. The only real advantage to the GXP is the 6speed manual and the 6 speed auto. Plus, it's a bit lighter than the SRT. In any case, both cars are wicked cool. I have the G8 GT, which Car and Driver clocked to sixty in 5 seconds flat. I got the same results. It's a pretty amazing car. So is the Charger.

[roman371]

Originally Posted by jtw715

Roman 371, I still think it's a driver's race.

No doubt about that, so similar you can pretty much pick the one that appeals the most to you.

[jtw715]

Originally Posted by roman371

No doubt about that, so similar you can pretty much pick the one that appeals the most to you.

Exactly. In any case, your GT 500 will wipe its ass with either the G8, the Charger, or both at the same time. Sweet ride. Amazing what you can accomplish with a supercharger. Speaking of which, I am considering installing one on my G8 GT. Because catbacks, CAI, and a 93 tune simply are not enough!

[jtw715]

Originally Posted by Grimlock

Wow, the R/T gets its ass handed to it in those two areas. Not a "razors edge" but an ass kicking.

True Grimlock, but braking and lateral G's don't matter one bit on the drag strip.