Scott,. I just looked at the problem area of the site and guess what. I am not the only one having the problem. THats what I love about this site. Lots of info. Funny thing is that everybody fixess the problem the same way for the most part. Think I wont worry about it. Its just strange. I bet year down the road they will have some fix for it like everything. I just dont use the car much in the winter. Well. appreciate you getting back so quick. You take care and well stay in touch. Carmax, the way car buying should be. LOL Can ya guess where i work. Danno