Wheels and Tires

[MBrown322]

oK...I'm about to proceed with what I think is a good setup and need some advice about a few things.

I want to go with a set if Privat Kontact Wheels and Toyo Proxes 4 tires.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/wheels/prvkon.bom.ang.jpg with http://www.customwheelsdirect.com/images/tires/Toyo/Toyo_Tires_Proxes_Asanti_Wheels_Tires.jpg

Front Wheels and Tires
255/35ZR20's Mounted on 20X8.5 5-115 20BOM (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/wheels/privat/size/viewProductDetail.do?pc=74073)

Rear Wheels and Tires
275/35ZR20's Mounted on 20X10 5-115 20BOM (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/wheels/privat/product/submitProductSize.do?pc=74081&typ=Truck&tmn=Kontakt)




1) I've read that the Offset should be between 18-24mm. These are 20mm and fall within that range, but I'm curious as to how they will look on the vehicle with the tires.

2) Will the 275/35ZR20's fit the 10" rims appropriately?

3) Why doesn't DTDirect carry Toyo when Discount Tire does?

4) I'd like to go with 295 rear tires, but they don't appear to offer it in the same sidewall height....but maybe I'm reading this all wrong. Would I need to step down from 35 to 30 when going to a wider tire?

5) What kind of availability do you have on the wheels?

6) Any suggestions?

[Discount Tire Direct]

oK...I'm about to proceed with what I think is a good setup and need some advice about a few things.

I want to go with a set if Privat Kontact Wheels and Toyo Proxes 4 tires.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/wheels/prvkon.bom.ang.jpg with http://www.customwheelsdirect.com/images/tires/Toyo/Toyo_Tires_Proxes_Asanti_Wheels_Tires.jpg

Front Wheels and Tires
255/35ZR20's Mounted on 20X8.5 5-115 20BOM (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/wheels/privat/size/viewProductDetail.do?pc=74073)

Rear Wheels and Tires
275/35ZR20's Mounted on 20X10 5-115 20BOM (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/wheels/privat/product/submitProductSize.do?pc=74081&typ=Truck&tmn=Kontakt)




1) I've read that the Offset should be between 18-24mm. These are 20mm and fall within that range, but I'm curious as to how they will look on the vehicle with the tires.

2) Will the 275/35ZR20's fit the 10" rims appropriately?

3) Why doesn't DTDirect carry Toyo when Discount Tire does?

4) I'd like to go with 295 rear tires, but they don't appear to offer it in the same sidewall height....but maybe I'm reading this all wrong. Would I need to step down from 35 to 30 when going to a wider tire?

5) What kind of availability do you have on the wheels?

6) Any suggestions?


Thanks for the questions. I'll follow your order.

1.) Lower offsets place the wheels out, closer to the fender. A 20mm offset should put the wheel within about 1/4" of your fender. (not counting the tire)

2.) A 275 is wide enough for a 10" wide wheel. I'll make a suggestion though. Both size you are looking at are going to be pretty short for your charger. For the Front we would suggest running a 255/40R20 or a 245/45R20 and for the rear we would suggest running a 275/40R20, 285/40R20 or a 295/40R20.

3.) Toyo will only contract one of their brands to each vendor who buys Direct for mail order sales. We sell Toyo's sister brand Nitto via mail order.

4.) Actually we suggest a 295/40R20 for the rear.

5.) I called Konig today and.... bad news... I have been informed that the Kontact is discontinued. They no longer have stock in this size and bolt pattern and do not plan on ordering them again. :(

[ga charger]

245/45/20 looks good on the rt all the way around

[calvinator]

Those 35 series tires are going to look too sidewall skinny IMO.

Your wheels are racy 5 spoke looking. Not sure the racy look with skinny sidewalls will go so well. What about 45 series tires?

There was just a thread a month ago about a guy buying 40 series tires and was upset b/c they were too sidewall skinny.

[ga charger]

Those 35 series tires are going to look too sidewall skinny IMO.

Your wheels are racy 5 spoke looking. Not sure the racy look with skinny sidewalls will go so well. What about 45 series tires?

There was just a thread a month ago about a guy buying 40 series tires and was upset b/c they were too sidewall skinny.
Are you satisfied with 245/45/20 or do you think 255/50/20 would have been better?

[calvinator]

Are you satisfied with 245/45/20 or do you think 255/50/20 would have been better?

I'm happy with my tire/wheel combo.

I sized my tires off the Daytona look/stance. That is how I got to 245/45/20. I have not seen any 50 series tires on Charger, so don't know. If I would do it again, I would get wider meats though. I one had 275/60/15 on Chevy Silverado SS pickup. Loved the wide meats.

I have seen the 255/40/20 at a dealer that jazzes up Chargers. IMO, the sidewall just looks so skinny compared to the 45 series.

[ga charger]

I'm happy with my tire/wheel combo.

I sized my tires off the Daytona look/stance. That is how I got to 245/45/20. I have not seen any 50 series tires on Charger, so don't know. If I would do it again, I would get wider meats though. I one had 275/60/15 on Chevy Silverado SS pickup. Loved the wide meats.

I have seen the 255/40/20 at a dealer that jazzes up Chargers. IMO, the sidewall just looks so skinny compared to the 45 series.
How do you feel about your tires? I see you have rs-a. I am looking for tires. found some of those cheap $118, but the reviews were horrible, really bad on wet roads and rain. What's your experiance?

[MBrown322]

Well...all good comments and suggestions.

Seeing that I'm pretty set on the Proxes 4 Tires, and using DTD's recommendations I think I'm going to try the following:

Front: 245/45ZR20
Rear: 275/40ZR20

The only thing that I'm finding is Approved Rim Width Range:
(Based on Above Tire Size)
Front: 7.5 - 9.0 - 9.5 Inches
Rear: 9.0 - 9.5 - 10.0 Inches

If I stick with 9.0 Inch rims all the way around, will there be an issue with the Tires?
Would I be better opting for the 9.5 inch rims?

Now I'll have to shop some more for tires...and I'm still looking at a few others on DTD. LIke:
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findWheelDetail.do?bp=5-115&pc=75433&counter=1&wd=20&rw=9

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/wheels/konfu5.mp.ang.jpg

[Discount Tire Direct]

^ If you run the same width wheel all the way around, it might be better to run the same size tire all the way around to. This will make it easier for rotations. This is not to say you can't still run the staggered tire set up you are looking at, if you choose. Some of the SRT-8 models come stock with 20x9's all the way around wrapped with 245/45R20's in the front and 255/45R20's in the rear.

[ChargerSILVERBULLET]

^ If you run the same width wheel all the way around, it might be better to run the same size tire all the way around to. This will make it easier for rotations. This is not to say you can't still run the staggered tire set up you are looking at, if you choose. Some of the SRT-8 models come stock with 20x9's all the way around wrapped with 245/45R20's in the front and 255/45R20's in the rear.

You can run 22x9's all the way around and 245/40R22's front ane 255/40R22's rear right? Would that be the best way to stagger 22's?

[Discount Tire Direct]

You can run 22x9's all the way around and 245/40R22's front ane 255/40R22's rear right? Would that be the best way to stagger 22's?

We appreciate all the questions here on staggered fitments.

First, let me address your "best" staggered fitment question.

In my opinion, the best staggered fitment is one that is built with both a narrower wheel and tire in the front and a wider wheel and tire in the rear. I like to this of this as a True staggered setup.

Here's why I would say a True Staggered setup is best:
True Staggered setups offer both looks and performance. If you are going to put a wider tire on the rear and you want to get the most out of it, you will want to run a wheel that helps to put the tires tread flat on the ground. If the tire is too wide or too narrow for the tire it will stretch or pinch the tire and the tires performance and grip will suffer. As for looks, purely opinion, but wider rear wheels often have deeper lips, deeper lips add a lot of dimension to the look of a vehicle, this seems to help if you like standing out in a crowd.


Now back to your other question. First, when ever you upsize your wheels (go from a smaller diameter to a larger diameter) you need to downsize the aspect ratio of your tire (middle number of your tire size) This helps to maintain the overall diameter of your tire. You want to keep the overall diameter of your tire so that your speedometer reads correctly. This also helps to prevent rubbing.


Here's what I would suggest for a 22" True staggered set up:

Wheels
Front: 22x8.5 or 22x9
Rear: 22x9.5 or 22x10

Tires
Front: 265/35R22 or 275/30R22
Rear: 285/35R22 or 305/35R22

If you wanted to run 22x9's all around I would first suggest running 265/35R22's all the way around but if you wanted to run two different tire sizes with these wheels I would suggest 265/35R22 and 285/30R22.

Hope this helps.

-Travis

[MBrown322]

^ If you run the same width wheel all the way around, it might be better to run the same size tire all the way around to. This will make it easier for rotations. This is not to say you can't still run the staggered tire set up you are looking at, if you choose. Some of the SRT-8 models come stock with 20x9's all the way around wrapped with 245/45R20's in the front and 255/45R20's in the rear.

I don't plan to rotate, just plan to replace, but you bring up a good option.

Are those wheels available from DTD?

M

[ChargerSILVERBULLET]

We appreciate all the questions here on staggered fitments.

First, let me address your "best" staggered fitment question.

In my opinion, the best staggered fitment is one that is built with both a narrower wheel and tire in the front and a wider wheel and tire in the rear. I like to this of this as a True staggered setup.

Here's why I would say a True Staggered setup is best:
True Staggered setups offer both looks and performance. If you are going to put a wider tire on the rear and you want to get the most out of it, you will want to run a wheel that helps to put the tires tread flat on the ground. If the tire is too wide or too narrow for the tire it will stretch or pinch the tire and the tires performance and grip will suffer. As for looks, purely opinion, but wider rear wheels often have deeper lips, deeper lips add a lot of dimension to the look of a vehicle, this seems to help if you like standing out in a crowd.


Now back to your other question. First, when ever you upsize your wheels (go from a smaller diameter to a larger diameter) you need to downsize the aspect ratio of your tire (middle number of your tire size) This helps to maintain the overall diameter of your tire. You want to keep the overall diameter of your tire so that your speedometer reads correctly. This also helps to prevent rubbing.


Here's what I would suggest for a 22" True staggered set up:

Wheels
Front: 22x8.5 or 22x9
Rear: 22x9.5 or 22x10

Tires
Front: 265/35R22 or 275/30R22
Rear: 285/35R22 or 305/35R22

If you wanted to run 22x9's all around I would first suggest running 265/35R22's all the way around but if you wanted to run two different tire sizes with these wheels I would suggest 265/35R22 and 285/30R22.

Hope this helps.

-Travis

Thanks, a lot! You went far beyond what I was asking! I appreciate it. You've won over a customer in me. I'll be placing an order soon with you guys for wheels and tires. I'll make sure I give you a shout before so I can make sure Im getting exactly what I want and need.

Thanks Travis!

[MBrown322]

Thanks, a lot! You went far beyond what I was asking! I appreciate it. You've won over a customer in me. I'll be placing an order soon with you guys for wheels and tires. I'll make sure I give you a shout before so I can make sure Im getting exactly what I want and need. Thanks Travis!

I agree. As long as DTD has the product I want, I will buy from them. I think I get much more accurate information here then I have many Wheel and Tire Barns.

[Discount Tire Direct]

I don't plan to rotate, just plan to replace, but you bring up a good option.

Are those wheels available from DTD?

M

I think i missed this comment yesterday. Which wheels are you looking for M?

-Travis

[MBrown322]

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findWheelDetail.do?bp=5-115&pc=75433&counter=1&wd=20&rw=9

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/wheels/konfu5.mp.ang.jpg

[Discount Tire Direct]

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findWheelDetail.do?bp=5-115&pc=75433&counter=1&wd=20&rw=9

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/wheels/konfu5.mp.ang.jpg

:banghead: Called Konig... No stock and no ETA on this one either. They said that the only thing they have right now is a few of the Rolf Blix designs (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/wheels/rolf_blix/home.do) in chrome. :banghead:

[RedHot R/T]

Travis, you still around? I'm wanting to run 20x8 front and 20x10 rear on my '07 Charger R/T. I'm looking at 245/45/20 front and 275/40/20 rear as they are very nearly the same size diameter. However, If I ran 295/40/20 on the rear (I want as wide as I can get to fit so, 305/35/20 maybe), would you be able to suggest the proper offset/backspacing for the best fit on my car? I'm really having trouble finding out the particulars on getting the proper offset for that size wheel and width of tire. Thanks.

[Discount Tire Direct]

Travis, you still around? I'm wanting to run 20x8 front and 20x10 rear on my '07 Charger R/T. I'm looking at 245/45/20 front and 275/40/20 rear as they are very nearly the same size diameter. However, If I ran 295/40/20 on the rear (I want as wide as I can get to fit so, 305/35/20 maybe), would you be able to suggest the proper offset/backspacing for the best fit on my car? I'm really having trouble finding out the particulars on getting the proper offset for that size wheel and width of tire. Thanks.

Travis is still around but he is out of the office today. I can certainly help you out RedHot.

Here's the offset ranges we recommend for your application. Keep in mind these recommendations are a little conservative since we guarantee all of our fitments.

WIDTH________OFFSET________WIDTH OF TIRE
6.5*********-10/+49**********215/225
7.0**********-4/+42**********215/225
7.5**********+2/+36******215/225/235/245
8.0**********+9/+30********225/235/245
8.5*********+15/+23******235/245/255/265
9.0*********+19/+20********245/255/265
REAR FITMENTS
8.5*********+8/+51*********245/255/265
9.0*********+14/+45******245/255/265/275
9.5*********+20/+39******255/265/275/285
10.0********+27/+32******265/275/285/295

Finding matching tires front to rear will be difficult when you start getting into the 295 and 305 widths(keeping OD in mind). You may want to consider running 255/45-20s in the front and 285/40-20s in the rear. Nitto builds the NT420s in both these sizes and they are approved for your car (speed rating & load index). Here's a link with additional information.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/logos/lg.nit.logo.gif
NT420S (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/tires/nitto/product/byName.do?tmn=NT420S&typ=Truck%2FSUV)