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Gladiator
11-17-2008, 08:17 AM
Unfortunately I'm not in the market for either of these at the moment but I just wanted to get some opinions on the pros and cons of these, one versus the other. I am new to the whole fast car thing but have read a decent bit around here. I haven't noticed a thread that directly compares the two. If there is one I just couldn't find it and we all know how that goes. So if you had a choice which would it be and why? Is the bigger displacement better? Thanks for the education here guys.




Gladiator
11-17-2008, 10:15 AM
I don't think I've ever seen a request for an open debate go unanswered before.

Part Deux
11-17-2008, 10:16 AM
Both

:)

CHARGERTREV
11-17-2008, 10:20 AM
I like both......how about both together :D

Gladiator
11-17-2008, 10:21 AM
Yeah that would be cool if you never wanted to drive it on the road again.:D

Part Deux
11-17-2008, 10:24 AM
Yeah that would be cool if you never wanted to drive it on the road again.:D

There's been a couple of people that have done both and consider the cars extremely drivable.

SDChargerSRT
11-17-2008, 10:34 AM
This is about like asking what color is best, everyone will chime in that theirs is.

I am happy with my supercharger. The day to day drivability is great, I can drive like it's not even there. But then the power is there when I want to use it. I chose the supercharger because it's a complete ready to go kit, the price was right, I can take it off if I so choose in the future, and I can change the pulley later if I want to go larger displacement.

You first need to figure out what your end goal is, and your budget. I know that isn't much fun, but it's really the best way to look at it.

One major consideration for me was the Vortech kit included a tune. If you do a stroker or another route, you need to factor in a CMR tune, and those are not free.

zoomzoom1
11-17-2008, 10:35 AM
I am contimplating this also, I have checked into several outlets for this, which 426 would you go?...Use just short block and factory heads, or go with complete system, PPP, Arrington, BES systems seem to be the best for choices, cost is another factor, Most engines run 8-12k for complete systems, thats alot of moola, most F/I Procharger, vortec, TechCo, will run you 5-7K plus install, also you need a torque converter, do you want 1000HP half shafts, Convertor 500-700+200install, halfshafts 1400.00-1700.00 plus install..It's a big step, I'm still thinking F/I with the Techco screw blower, but I need to do some research on the 440hemi from Arrington engines, 12k complete, or just do the short block with stock heads,,,,,,Lots of questions but research is good..I know that ujokin2 has the 426 BES system in his car and it's a beast 11.508.best time...stillthinking, have time until I decide though, Hope i helped with the questions that I also have......Ralph

zoomzoom1
11-17-2008, 10:39 AM
This is about like asking what color is best, everyone will chime in that theirs is.

I am happy with my supercharger. The day to day drivability is great, I can drive like it's not even there. But then the power is there when I want to use it. I chose the supercharger because it's a complete ready to go kit, the price was right, I can take it off if I so choose in the future, and I can change the pulley later if I want to go larger displacement.

You first need to figure out what your end goal is, and your budget. I know that isn't much fun, but it's really the best way to look at it.

One major consideration for me was the Vortech kit included a tune. If you do a stroker or another route, you need to factor in a CMR tune, and those are not free.

I have looked into this also, and think that it might be my route, but with the Techco, but being able to go back to stock is the best thing about it.....Ralph

charger08srt
11-17-2008, 10:44 AM
I am contimplating this also, I have checked into several outlets for this, which 426 would you go?...Use just short block and factory heads, or go with complete system, PPP, Arrington, BES systems seem to be the best for choices, cost is another factor, Most engines run 8-12k for complete systems, thats alot of moola, most F/I Procharger, vortec, TechCo, will run you 5-7K plus install, also you need a torque converter, do you want 1000HP half shafts, Convertor 500-700+200install, halfshafts 1400.00-1700.00 plus install..It's a big step, I'm still thinking F/I with the Techco screw blower, but I need to do some research on the 440hemi from Arrington engines, 12k complete, or just do the short block with stock heads,,,,,,Lots of questions but research is good..I know that ujokin2 has the 426 BES system in his car and it's a beast 11.508.best time...stillthinking, have time until I decide though, Hope i helped with the questions that I also have......Ralph

ralph, that's great info right there:beerchug:

PPP-Tech
11-17-2008, 11:25 AM
They both make similar peak power, but the 426 makes more tq and hp below peak than a supercharger. Also a naturally aspirated forged 426 will last allot longer than a supercharged cast piston stock engine. One more thing, the supercharged engines make no additional hp/tq at part throttle, but the 426 does.

zoomzoom1
11-17-2008, 11:32 AM
They both make similar peak power, but the 426 makes more tq and hp below peak than a supercharger. Also a naturally aspirated forged 426 will last allot longer than a supercharged cast piston stock engine. One more thing, the supercharged engines make no additional hp/tq at part throttle, but the 426 does.

Thats a good point, thats why I am researching all of the possiblities..thanks for brining this up..It's helps....Ralph:bigthumb:

charger08srt
11-17-2008, 11:37 AM
They both make similar peak power, but the 426 makes more tq and hp below peak than a supercharger. Also a naturally aspirated forged 426 will last allot longer than a supercharged cast piston stock engine. One more thing, the supercharged engines make no additional hp/tq at part throttle, but the 426 does.

very cool... appreciate the info:beerchug:

SDChargerSRT
11-17-2008, 11:40 AM
One more thing, the supercharged engines make no additional hp/tq at part throttle, but the 426 does.

Just push the pedal down more! :biggrinjester:

topbanana3767
11-17-2008, 11:57 AM
well it is my firm belief that asking this question is like asking which do you like better peanut butter or jelly.answer there both good by themselves but so much better together lolololol.check my sig im biased lololol.s/c is in hand and a lower will be built within the next few month ,hopefully before race season.car is currently sitting in the garage with a busted engine.so its gonna run me the same amount no matter what engine i go with so might as well go to the top of the mountain and the view will be good lolololol...

Gladiator
11-17-2008, 12:30 PM
Thanks for the info guys. This is exactly what I'm looking for. My first expensiveish mod is going to be an exhaust next summer but I like to have a nice outlook for the future as to what I want to do. If I'm gonna go to the top of mountain so to speak I'd rather not drop a bunch of other money on other engine mods before I do that. I'd rather save and go all in all at once.

Ujokin2
11-17-2008, 01:09 PM
Let me add something for all those that are planning or thinking or on the fence.
If you have any inclinations about doing "Power adders" (S/C or N02 or both) on top of your Stroker....BUILD it from the start like your going to add a Power ADDER that way even if you change your mind later down the road...it will be built for it.

Building a N\A engine from the get go...and then thinking you can add all those...will put a SERIOUS damper on your asperations....yes you can add S\C but not with as much boost or if your going NO2 with a huge shoot.

Talk in detail with whomever your builder\vendor may be what your evential goals maybe.

USCG charger
11-17-2008, 01:26 PM
Remember fellas if u are gonna run a stroker and do plan on a pwr adder later down the raod let whom ever is building ur engine know.... I'd love to put a S/C on my car but my rotation assy. is way to light.. I had the short block made for fast revs not a pwr adder down the road.

Gladiator
11-17-2008, 01:26 PM
Good points Ujokin. What do you guys think is a complete and comprehensive list of additional upgrades a Charger SRT would need to handle the additional power of one of these or both? I've seen a few things mentioned in this thread already but can you guys think of any more? Just looking for all of the hidden costs here.

Gladiator
11-17-2008, 02:06 PM
They both make similar peak power, but the 426 makes more tq and hp below peak than a supercharger. Also a naturally aspirated forged 426 will last allot longer than a supercharged cast piston stock engine. One more thing, the supercharged engines make no additional hp/tq at part throttle, but the 426 does.


I like longer lasting. I plan on holding on to my SRT a long time and that is a big consideration.

LongDriving
11-17-2008, 02:21 PM
Wish I ran an 11.5

Gladiator
11-17-2008, 05:01 PM
Okay guys. New question. How long does a shop need to keep your car for either a 426 or a super/turbo install?

Gladiator
11-18-2008, 07:06 AM
:bump: For some answers. :D

Ujokin2
11-18-2008, 08:38 AM
SORRY! :D My engine build took about 6 weeks from shipment from my installer for the engine to be completed and shipped back. I had another engine installed in mine so I was never without the car. :bigthumb:

SRT 666
11-18-2008, 08:41 AM
I stopped by my local tuner/speed shop and told him i wanted to do a head and cam upgrade.I mentioned a few vendors from here and checked there websites out at the shop.obviously they have there part suppliers and he rattled off indy heads with a a comp 268 or 273,underdrive pulley,torgue converter and a cmr tune as one way or................They are a procharger dealer.There was parts mentioned that i would need to go along with the heads such as he mentioned a 42 lb injector.Ignition system was brought up and so on.So my point here is now i am lost in how to go about this to.$2500 for heads and cam@8-10 hrs labor at $80.00/hr.By the time i get it out the door its still around $4500.00 with the torgue converter and tune ect.Procharger done in one day$6500.00.so now i am lost start.Be easier to sell one of the trucks and just drop something in i am thinking!!:confused:

Gladiator
11-18-2008, 08:42 AM
So about a month or so normally Ujokin? I think I'm starting to look at the 426 as my goal here.

SRT 666
11-18-2008, 08:47 AM
I want want ujokn2 has with a procharger on top!:clap:

SRT 666
11-18-2008, 08:51 AM
Besides the heads and cam do you have to upgrade the block?rotating assembly and crank? What do heads and cam really do for the srt?Does that change it from a 370 or 392 or whatever they are to something else? I really dont know what the heads and cam upgrade really do ?

zoomzoom1
11-18-2008, 08:54 AM
I want want ujokn2 has with a procharger on top!:clap:
DDAAYUUUMMM!!!

And you want to street it?
$$$$$$$$$$
I know gilgamesh has a 426 with a S/C and he's running about 630-650rwhp....It's a beast...but a pain to keep running...tune is real hard to get right...From what I understand??

Have you checked out Arrington 440 hemi....???;)

zoomzoom1
11-18-2008, 08:55 AM
Besides the heads and cam do you have to upgrade the block?rotating assembly and crank? What do heads and cam really do for the srt?Does that change it from a 370 or 392 or whatever they are to something else? I really dont know what the heads and cam upgrade really do ?
Increase FLOW= Power
Have to forge the bottom end to handle the extra forces on them with an S/C....

SRT 666
11-18-2008, 09:05 AM
Well..........I thought it would be cool to have a 426 with a procharger but maybe i am wrong.Maybe i will stick to "all motor"! Thanks guys.

Part Deux
11-18-2008, 09:10 AM
Well..........I thought it would be cool to have a 426 with a procharger but maybe i am wrong.Maybe i will stick to "all motor"! Thanks guys.

look at this way, you can put in the 426, and after a year or two when the the speed mod returns, pop on a SC :)

Ujokin2
11-18-2008, 09:12 AM
So about a month or so normally Ujokin? I think I'm starting to look at the 426 as my goal here.

Yes sir that will be about the time frame. Remember the shipping time .. you have to consider a 3-5 days each way...

Gladiator
11-18-2008, 09:14 AM
Thank you. Hopefully I can seriously look at this in about a year. :D

charger08srt
11-18-2008, 09:18 AM
Thank you. Hopefully I can seriously look at this in about a year. :D

ddamn... i have to build a garage first:D

Ujokin2
11-18-2008, 09:22 AM
Okay...me me chime in on this... At some point you will have SO MUCH power that it will be ALMOST unuseable on the street.

Yes you can still use it as a daily driver. I put 500+ rwhp and trust me when it rains...when it is wet, when it get really cold and icey...I have to drive like pins and needles.

No put another 100-150 RWHP on top of that... imagine how you will have to drive.
There is a BIG difference on how the BOOST comes on a Stroked engine vice a 6.1.

Read what PPP-Tech eluded too. Yes the lure of having that much power is awesome. But at some point you will have to make that decision wither it is worth it to start ADDING on TOP.

NO2 now that is a strong candidate as you should be using it only on the track. :biggrinjester:

Gladiator
11-18-2008, 09:22 AM
Well my oldest kids are almost 3 and my wife is really big on playing to their interests and strengths. My son has always loved anything that goes, is mechanical or electronic and since I am really into my car now it is sort of a built in father son thing. I would have loved to have grown up with a dad with a killer ride so now that's one of the things I can share with him.(And my daughters too. They love daddy's vroom.):D

Gladiator
11-18-2008, 09:24 AM
I think a 426 would be the limit for me because I would still want to drive it. Thanks Ujokin that's why I started this thread. Is a 426 drivable?

Ujokin2
11-18-2008, 09:27 AM
I think a 426 would be the limit for me because I would still want to drive it. Thanks Ujokin that's why I started this thread. Is a 426 drivable?


Oh yes it is :biggrinjester: A little red Sleeper :biggrinjester:

Gladiator
11-18-2008, 09:28 AM
If a 426 is too much I would just go heads and cam etc. The standards.

charger08srt
11-18-2008, 09:32 AM
Oh yes it is :biggrinjester: A little red Sleeper :biggrinjester:

haha...i'm sure it is:D

zoomzoom1
11-18-2008, 09:34 AM
Oh yes it is :biggrinjester: A little red Sleeper :biggrinjester:

You betcha!!!!........

Gladiator
11-18-2008, 09:44 AM
Yeah when it wakes up it's probably like a psychopath on roids. :D

SRT 666
11-18-2008, 09:58 AM
ok, stupid question here.....Once i have the heads and cam done.This may not please some here but i am more than likely going this way due to the shop warranties there work with indy cylinder head and comp cams.I dont know how ppp or hhp works.But once i have the heads and cam, what is the next step?Other than the converter? Do i have to change the block,cranck,pistons ect to a 426 block?Also will those heads and cam work with that? Thanks. adam.

Gladiator
11-18-2008, 11:06 AM
I have no idea but here is a bump to keep you on top.

Aceman74
11-18-2008, 12:42 PM
Great thread, I'm been thinking the same thing here. I talked to Stu at Inertia and he's got me ready to go with a 392 vs. the 426. Sure the 426 sounds awesome but the 392 is a great motor and the internals he uses are top notch. Thats what I'm on the fence about now, 392 or 426. I'd sure like to answer the question whats under the hood with a 426 Hemi. I wouldnt do the bottom end without doing the heads, intake, throttlebody, and camshaft. You only want to do it once so go big or go home. I'd say do the converter if your going to race it more than from stoplight to stoplight, and get some half shafts. I've read about the freak half shafts breaking on the street. Is the concensus that your more likely to break them at the track on slicks and not on street tires?

oljustice
11-18-2008, 12:46 PM
They both make similar peak power, but the 426 makes more tq and hp below peak than a supercharger. Also a naturally aspirated forged 426 will last allot longer than a supercharged cast piston stock engine. One more thing, the supercharged engines make no additional hp/tq at part throttle, but the 426 does.

You know I never knew that super/turbo chargers only kicked in during WOT. Definitely interesting info there. Personally, I'd rather squeeze as much performance that I can out of an N/A engine, then toss a blower on top. Its cheaper and you can do it in steps.

charger08srt
11-18-2008, 01:06 PM
You know I never knew that super/turbo chargers only kicked in during WOT. Definitely interesting info there. Personally, I'd rather squeeze as much performance that I can out of an N/A engine, then toss a blower on top. Its cheaper and you can do it in steps.

that was interesting info... i myself would start with the 426 kit:D

Ujokin2
11-18-2008, 01:16 PM
ok, stupid question here.....Once i have the heads and cam done.This may not please some here but i am more than likely going this way due to the shop warranties there work with indy cylinder head and comp cams.I dont know how ppp or hhp works.But once i have the heads and cam, what is the next step?Other than the converter? Do i have to change the block,cranck,pistons ect to a 426 block?Also will those heads and cam work with that? Thanks. adam.


Wondering if I should be on HHP's "payroll" :D

You can go full bore on getting P&P heads and Intake and certain "Big CAMS" as they can port over to the 426 stroker. PPP & HHP I do know "warranties" thier engines. I am sure the others may as well. You may want to check with the particular vendor. With the 426 KIT you will get new Crank, Pistons, injectors, etc

I took the path of first going down the path of HHP Stage II which was P&P Heads, intake and Stage II Cam and then right after install decieded that was not enough and went the Forged engine route.

I was able to take my STAGE II Heads and Intake right on over to the 426.

Charger-Steve
11-18-2008, 02:34 PM
Wondering if I should be on HHP's "payroll" :D

You can go full bore on getting P&P heads and Intake and certain "Big CAMS" as they can port over to the 426 stroker. PPP & HHP I do know "warranties" thier engines. I am sure the others may as well. You may want to check with the particular vendor. With the 426 KIT you will get new Crank, Pistons, injectors, etc

I took the path of first going down the path of HHP Stage II which was P&P Heads, intake and Stage II Cam and then right after install decieded that was not enough and went the Forged engine route.

I was able to take my STAGE II Heads and Intake right on over to the 426.

Do you have to get a new forged block for the 426? Or can you just keep the stock block and get a rotating assembly with more throw... enough to get you 426 CI?

Gladiator
11-18-2008, 03:56 PM
Another good question. Professor Ujokin?

SDChargerSRT
11-18-2008, 04:11 PM
You know I never knew that super/turbo chargers only kicked in during WOT. Definitely interesting info there. Personally, I'd rather squeeze as much performance that I can out of an N/A engine, then toss a blower on top. Its cheaper and you can do it in steps.

I respectfully don't agree with this statement. I have a Vortech on my SRT, and I frequently break the rear tires loose at far less than full throttle, with ESP on. I can be less than 1/2 throttle and get a good chirp. I never experienced that without the supercharger.

Maybe it's all in my head, but it sure feels a lot stronger at all throttle positions. In fact, with it in autostick 1st, it's darn near impossible to take off without frying the tires.

I know the superchargers work differently than N/A due to the vaccum/boost and the system trying to figure out what you need, and I have no doubt that a stroker should give you beautiful, manageable power all the way up, but don't get the impression that a supercharger is only good when you blast at WOT.

For the record, I plan on adding a stroker later on. I probably won't get a 426, it's my understanding a 6.1 based 392 gives you a good torque monster, built with 9:1 compression, add my Vortech with good boost to enhance the top end, and I should be able to break something.:D

SDChargerSRT
11-18-2008, 04:13 PM
Do you have to get a new forged block for the 426? Or can you just keep the stock block and get a rotating assembly with more throw... enough to get you 426 CI?

AFAIK, they require a core charge because they are going to use your block to build the next one, and so on. A stock block is used.

Yes, you could get a rotating assembly and use your original block, but downtime will be much greater than getting a pre-built shortblock and then shipping your original back.

Techco-CD
11-18-2008, 05:56 PM
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1565905#post1565905

Ujokin2
11-18-2008, 06:51 PM
Do you have to get a new forged block for the 426? Or can you just keep the stock block and get a rotating assembly with more throw... enough to get you 426 CI?


To answer your question ...I believe you can get a just "Stroker Kit"

A Stroker Kit is forged replacement engine components (forged piston, forged connecting rods, performance piston rings, bearings, and Stroker crankshaft) such as the Callies 426 CID stroker package which includes the Callies steel stroker crank, Comp Star rods, Mahle coated pistons, rings & bearings

or as indicated on the Inertia site
418 - 426 6.1L Short Block
6.1 HEMI Block
Callies Compstar Rotating Assembly
Crower or Manley Pro I Beam Rods
Custom CP Pistons
Gas Nitrided Steel Top Rings (1.2/1.2/3.0 ring width)
360 Degree Oiling
Main Cap/Saddle Radiusing


PS> Going to a 426 stroker from any one of the vendors will STILL net you MORE RWHP then going straight Super Charger as stated in above thread.:D

Gladiator
11-18-2008, 06:59 PM
Thanks for the great info guys and Techco that system sounds nice.

zoomzoom1
11-18-2008, 08:35 PM
Thanks for the great info guys and Techco that system sounds nice.

don't it though!!!!!

charger08srt
11-18-2008, 08:55 PM
don't it though!!!!!

kiss up:biggrinjester:

zoomzoom1
11-18-2008, 08:57 PM
kiss up:biggrinjester:
:beerchug::SM127::lol30::lol30:

Gladiator
11-18-2008, 09:04 PM
Just because you want to be a guinea pig for Techco. :no:

zoomzoom1
11-18-2008, 09:19 PM
Just because you want to be a guinea pig for Techco. :no:

;):driving:

desertcharger
11-18-2008, 10:05 PM
I respectfully don't agree with this statement. I have a Vortech on my SRT, and I frequently break the rear tires loose at far less than full throttle, with ESP on. I can be less than 1/2 throttle and get a good chirp. I never experienced that without the supercharger.

Maybe it's all in my head, but it sure feels a lot stronger at all throttle positions. In fact, with it in autostick 1st, it's darn near impossible to take off without frying the tires.

I know the superchargers work differently than N/A due to the vaccum/boost and the system trying to figure out what you need, and I have no doubt that a stroker should give you beautiful, manageable power all the way up, but don't get the impression that a supercharger is only good when you blast at WOT.


I would have to agree with you- after driving 08StonedCharger's ride. During burnout, it kicks in about 2500-3000rpm zipping the rpm right up to 5000 while holding a part throttle. He's running a ProCharger.

desertcharger
11-18-2008, 10:06 PM
Awesome thread!!!!:rocker::rocker::rocker:
I am thinking of staying natural myself- but the temptation to S/C is definitely there- especially considering the lack of local support I have.

charger08srt
11-18-2008, 10:14 PM
Awesome thread!!!!:rocker::rocker::rocker:
I am thinking of staying natural myself- but the temptation to S/C is definitely there- especially considering the lack of local support I have.

your new tires are saying... please no:biggrinjester:

topbanana3767
11-19-2008, 12:01 AM
dudes i cant wait untill my s/c 426 roars to life.it will be such a sweet day.

desertcharger
11-19-2008, 12:18 AM
your new tires are saying... please no:biggrinjester:

LOL- I have taken very good care of the new goodyears- even getting a roadforce balance! no shakes is awesome!!!!
my MT drag radials beg to differ however!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:rocker::rocker::rocker:
:biggrinjester:

Ujokin2
11-19-2008, 08:39 AM
I went through a set of Mickey T's in less than 3 months on track time!

desertcharger
11-19-2008, 08:44 AM
I went through a set of Mickey T's in less than 3 months on track time!

I would imagine that would be REALLY easy to do with that beast!:rocker:

LongDriving
11-19-2008, 09:33 AM
your new tires are saying... please no:biggrinjester:

While Goodyear says do it again :yes:

Ujokin2
11-19-2008, 09:45 AM
dudes i cant wait untill my s/c 426 roars to life.it will be such a sweet day.


Your getting it built (426) for a S\C right ?

charger08srt
11-19-2008, 10:15 AM
While Goodyear says do it again :yes:

haha... cha-ching:D

Gladiator
11-19-2008, 11:37 AM
haha... cha-ching:D

Time to buy some stock in Goodyear. :burnout:

charger08srt
11-19-2008, 11:46 AM
Time to buy some stock in Goodyear. :burnout:

he should be sponsored by them:D

Gladiator
11-19-2008, 11:50 AM
Even better idea.

paxton
11-19-2008, 11:54 AM
This is a great thread with some good knowledge from mister 426 himself...James you know who you are. Getting a 426 or FI will be very costly, especially the 426 stroker. If your like me and have limited funds, then doing things in steps to accomplish your HP goals is the way to go. I just did heads, bigger cam, ported intake and LT's and love the new power, but I would like more. I think getting these should be the first step towards either a stroker or FI and if you plan right, will be used for either application. FI does require some more research as you probably would want a cam designed for either a S/C, Turbo or even a big shot of nitrous. Plan ahead for want you want and if need be take it in steps towards reaching your cars goals.

Even with a heads, cam, intake car like mine, drivability in adverse conditions(wet or snow) is a major challenge already and can be dangerous. My wife took my car out recently in the rain and she came back and told me it got sideways on her.HeheheLOL Traction in the cold weather....forget about it, you don't have any in 1st gear if you go anywhere near WOT. And one more thing...better save for some money in tires, cause you're going to need it!!!:biggrinjester:

desertcharger
11-19-2008, 04:33 PM
Time to buy some stock in Goodyear. :burnout:

he should be sponsored by them:D

Even better idea.

ROFL !!!!!!:D:D:D

Hey wait- that's not funny-- hmmmm
I am open to any tire sponsorship offers that come up!!!!:deal:
I have no problem lighting them up on a weekly basis-
With a sponsership- I could even get my S/c or Stroker!!!!!
:bigthumb:

Thanks guys!
:rocker:

Gladiator
11-19-2008, 07:23 PM
Anyone want to offer a Chargers for Dummies version of everything step by step that goes into a 426? I mean what parts. What processes. What the shop does. Please be very basic as I am at this point just a little higher than very basic right now and I want an education. Thanks guys.

CHARGERTREV
11-19-2008, 08:06 PM
I want a 440 stroker with a blower/meth/N2O so I can street race in a school zone when school lets out :D

Ujokin2
11-19-2008, 08:09 PM
There is a pretty good explanation on this thread

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=109232

another that explains the difference of 5.7 and 6.1 engine.

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=90323

Gladiator
11-19-2008, 08:10 PM
Just be a school bus driver who shows up drunk and beat up from a bar fight the night before. Just make sure you have a pack of cigs for the kids to split and some Misfits CDs. Yes this guy was real.

Gladiator
11-19-2008, 08:11 PM
Thanks again Ujokin. You've really made this thread helpful. I appreciate it.:beerchug:

paxton
11-19-2008, 09:28 PM
I want a 440 stroker with a blower/meth/N2O so I can street race in a school zone when school lets out :D

:slap: Remind me to slap you in person tomorrow night!!!

CHARGERTREV
11-19-2008, 09:38 PM
:slap: Remind me to slap you in person tomorrow night!!!

Read my thread on street racng and youll see the point behind it.....You know I wouldnt do that forreal.

Gladiator
11-20-2008, 09:08 AM
Link to a nice thread by PPP.

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93638

King Savage
11-20-2008, 10:04 AM
I have had ZERO problems with my 426 and the car is a monster. I get in, turn the key and drive wherever I want to just like I did when the car was brand new. I can also fry my tires into 3rd gear...totally pegged out funmeter for sure.

rubbel
12-05-2008, 06:43 AM
This engine is going to be insane.

We start with the bare block, then we have the standard K-1 crank, but instead of K-1 rods, we are using Carrillo H-Beam rods and instead of using the Carrillo WMC rod bolts which are comparable to the ARP 2000 rod bolts, we are using CARR rod bolts. The rods alone are $2,000. The pistons are our in house favorite 2618 Wiseco forgings with gas nitrided GFX rings. The skirts and the piston tops are coated as well as combustion chambers and bearings. The heads will be over ported with bronze sleeves pressed in where the pushrods feed through in order for us to run a 3/8" pushrod instead of the normal 5/16" pushrod. We will be using the stage 2 heads with titanium retainers, PSI springs, Stainless valves, machined locks, hardened locators, viton seals, and bronze guides. The block will be O-ringed to ensure we do not blow gaskets out and ARP main and head bolts are also being used. The block will also have billet main caps. (Quote on my build from PPP)
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On top I'm adding the Techco twin screw rotary supercharger.

desertcharger
12-05-2008, 08:21 AM
This engine is going to be insane.

(Quote on my build from PPP)
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On top I'm adding the Techco twin screw rotary supercharger.

D******MMMMMMN:banana::banana::banana::banana:
:D

Gladiator
12-05-2008, 09:43 AM
Sounds like a crazy build.

Ujokin2
12-05-2008, 07:02 PM
Just going to throw in... not my car but another certain individual who is not on the forums.

He has TWO yes TWO Challengers....to build
One will be a 426 Stroker with TWIN TURBO. (automatic)
One will be a 426 Stroker with a S\C (Manual 6 speed)

Since the owner will be busy with getting the TT ready... I'm trying to talk him in letting myself as well as another Charger forum member (ChargerCG) assist him in getting the second one ready...



We are soliciting and gathering the information from the vendors for the build....

Gladiator
12-05-2008, 07:05 PM
Wish I had that kind of loot laying around.

charger08srt
12-05-2008, 07:08 PM
Wish I had that kind of loot laying around.

ah model T ford:slap:

Gladiator
12-05-2008, 07:10 PM
A 426 is worth more than the Model T $$$$$$ and while I am getting a cut it isn't mine.:D

Ujokin2
12-05-2008, 07:12 PM
It is a shame that you have to account for the roll bar\cage into the intial build since you know already... it will be faster then 11.49

charger08srt
12-05-2008, 07:13 PM
A 426 is worth more than the Model T $$$$$$ and while I am getting a cut it isn't mine.:D

don't forget my cut... 3% sounds good:alfdance:

Gladiator
12-05-2008, 07:17 PM
It is a shame that you have to account for the roll bar\cage into the intial build since you know already... it will be faster then 11.49

That does stink if you build that fast but safety is safety.

Gladiator
12-05-2008, 07:18 PM
don't forget my cut... 3% sounds good:alfdance:

3% of nothin! I may have a buyer for it around here which is cool. I wouldn't have to pay the ebay fee.