Saleen SMS Blower.... Anyone installed one yet?

[Sal SRT-8]

I am really interested in this blower but not sure if they are out yet and, if so, has anyone installed one yet? I am hesitating on spending any money on performance mods until i can see how this bad boy performs at the drag strip and on the dyno....

I am contemplating on buying the Kit first OR doing Intake, Predator, Headers, HF Cats, Cam & Heads, in that order. I figure i will spend the same amount of money either way i go BUT if i get blown i will do it all at once and then add on the cam/heads, exhaust later on down the line. My only problem right now is money:eyemouth:

[CHARGERTREV]

Like this one?
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/TREVORS%20CAR/DSC06109.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/TREVORS%20CAR/DSC06110.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/TREVORS%20CAR/DSC06111.jpg

[buzzzz]

dang, do you see those valve covers, sorry to be off topic

[Sal SRT-8]

Like this one?


Good God Almighty!:jawdrop:

Is that from SEMA?

Good to see one installed and not photoshopped!!!

Any perf numbers?

[NYCSRTATE]

I like the SMS system too, I have been looking into getting F\I for some time now.

Its going to be either Procharger or SMS for me, I hate the way the Vortech system has the cooler above the left side head.

Still waiting on pricing for SMS.

[Sal SRT-8]

dang, do you see those valve covers, sorry to be off topic

not until you mentioned it...MOROSO!!

How about the Billet Tech pieces? nice touch.

[Sal SRT-8]

I like the SMS system too, I have been looking into getting F\I for some time now.

Its going to be either Procharger or SMS for me, I hate the way the Vortech system has the cooler above the left side head.

Still waiting on pricing for SMS.
I am with you on that, the aftercooler looks out of place whereas this one looks right at home;)

I saw pricing to be at $6995.

[CHARGERTREV]

dang, do you see those valve covers, sorry to be off topic

Oh these?

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/DSCI0052.jpg

[CHARGERTREV]

Good God Almighty!:jawdrop:

Is that from SEMA?

Good to see one installed and not photoshopped!!!

Any perf numbers?

Yea its at SEMA....and no clue on performance

[Sal SRT-8]

Oh these?



:drool:

WoW, this is like Hemi-Porn for me.

[MooseOffTheWall]

That is a sick car!

[MooseOffTheWall]

This is off topic too sorry, but what is that carbon fiber lip thing that go in front of the wheel? I circled it in green.

[LongDriving]

Awesome! I want one! :sad:

[charger08srt]

Awesome! I want one! :sad:

same here:rocker:

[LongDriving]

Does anyone have numbers on it? Like how much boost are anything? It seems to be a kit that's kept secret.

[CHARGERTREV]

This is off topic too, but what is that carbon fiber lip thing that go in front of the wheel? I circled it in green.

Its not CF I think its just the lighting, and all challengers have a front "mud flap" thingy.

See them infront now?
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/FrontCloseup.jpg

[LongDriving]

^^^^^I want one of those too :sad:

[MooseOffTheWall]

Its not CF I think its just the lighting, and all challengers have a front "mud flap" thingy.

See them infront now?
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/FrontCloseup.jpg

Ahh I see, It is kinda cool. I think a CF piece like that would be kinda sick. I dunno, I guess you'd have to see it ON the charger. It might look like complete *hit :(

[CHARGERTREV]

Here some pictures of the car

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/FrontCloseup.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/FrontTop.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/RearCloseUp.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/funnyangle.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/RCH_9916.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/Interior5.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/Interior1.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/FrontFender.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/TrojanSemaPoster03New1500.jpg

[LongDriving]

Sweet! Even includes a roll cage

[MooseOffTheWall]

sick sick car. Only the RT and SRT have those front wheel flap things. I looked at an SE and it didn't have it. That challenger is ballin. No doubt.

[GLHS837]

Damn, those welds are a thing of wonder...........

Blower's nice too:)

[CHARGERTREV]

Damn, those welds are a thing of wonder...........

Blower's nice too:)

They cant be by hand...but if there are.....:bowdown: :clap:

[Sal SRT-8]

Does anyone have numbers on it? Like how much boost are anything? It seems to be a kit that's kept secret.

I originally saw this over at LX Forums:
LXForums link (http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=125795&highlight=saleen+supercharger)

PRESS RELEASE:

Orange County, California. (August 7, 2008) Automotive icon Steve Saleen and his new company SMS are proud to introduce the first product in the SMS line of ultra-high performance technical parts, the SMS 296 Supercharger™, designed, engineered, manufactured and assembled in-house at our 150,000 square foot facility. Mopar owners of 2005 to 2009 HEMI 5.7 and HEMI 6.1 vehicles are now able to boost under hood horsepower by up to 45% with innovative new dual-screw supercharger (patent pending).

With over 30 years of racing experience Steve Saleen and the SMS design and engineering team have created the ultimate supercharger for Mopar enthusiasts. Now the aftermarket community can take advantage of the SMS 296 Supercharger™, which will be standard equipment on the highly anticipated 2009 SMS 570 Challenger™ and SMS 570X Challenger™, with power ratings from 500 to over 700 horsepower respectively!

The SMS 296 Supercharger™ is packed with innovative features created by SMS engineers to provide optimum boost in an exceptionally compact package.

At the top of the list is the Delta-Frame™ internal intercooler (patent pending), with dual thin-core intercoolers and single-pass coolant flow. The intercooler design provides for a considerable increase in surface area, which has the effect of minimizing pressure drop and optimizing thermal characteristics. The intelligent configuration also acts as a mechanical diverter for effective air transfer into the ports, while the angled manifold enables packaging of runners that are much longer than in conventional layouts.

The long intake runner optimizes airflow efficiency and provides the SMS 296 Supercharger™ with an extremely low profile. This arrangement means that it nestles comfortably within the V, and under the stock hood of all applications, as well as accommodating a bypass system for 3-way cruising off-boost.

At the heart of the supercharger are the asymmetric multi-lobe compressor screws, which are machined in-house by SMS on state-of-the-art CNC equipment. The screw concept is among the most efficient of all supercharger configurations. However, it is also one of the most challenging to manufacture.

In order to minimize parasitic losses, it is crucial to maintain incredibly tight tolerances between the profiles of the asymmetrical lobes. Running dry at speeds of up to 16,000 rpm, there is no room for error. In finishing the screw profiles, the SMS flexible CNC machining facility is working to exacting tolerances. The flexibility of the equipment also means that changes in the screw profiles can be accommodated for different applications.

The innovations on the SMS 296 Supercharger™ carry through to its exterior, with SMS Tailor Made™ custom finishes and powder coat color options to match most Mopar colors. Now enthusiasts can match the impact under the hood with the one at the rear wheels.

The complete SMS 296 Supercharger™ aftermarket assembly looks great and installs easily under the stock hood of all applications including; the Dodge Challenger SRT-8, Dodge Challenger R/T, Dodge Charger SRT-8, Dodge Charger R/T, Dodge Magnum SRT-8, Dodge Magnum RT, Chrysler 300C SRT-8, Chrysler 300C, Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8, and Select 5.7L Hemi Dodge Trucks.

Please visit www.smssupercars.com for more information. For a broad understanding of the workings of superchargers please visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercharger

SMS 296 Supercharger™ key features: Patent Pending

• SMS-2955 cc / 180 cu. in. Displacement
• SMS-Integrated Front Drive/Induction Combo
• SMS-Dual Screw Configuration
• SMS-Asymmetric Multi-Lobe Compressor Screws
• SMS-Delta-Frame™ Internal Intercooler Configuration, Patent Pending
• SMS-Remote Drive 8-Rib Pulley and Dampener
• SMS-Internal High-Volume By-Pass Valve
• SMS-Low-Profile High-Volume 10 Inch Long Runners
• SMS-Dual Thin-Core Intercoolers with low pressure drop
• SMS-Single-Pass Intercooler Coolant Path
• SMS-Symmetric CNC Intercooler Caps with integrated coolant passages
• SMS-High-Volume Intercooler Water Pump with recovery tank
• SMS-High-Volume Heat Exchanger with all hardware
• SMS-80 mm Venturi with high-flow air filter
• SMS-88 mm Cold Air Inlet Tube
• SMS-SuperTune OBD Compliant Calibration and Program Tool
• SMS-Extruded Aluminum Fuel Rails with upgraded fuel injectors where applicable
• SMS-Ultra-Light Weight Aluminum Construction
• SMS-Stainless Steel Fasteners
• SMS-Instruction Manual
• Utilizes factory throttle body and hood

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/07/b...harger-system/

[Sal SRT-8]

They cant be by hand...but if there are.....:bowdown: :clap:

x2

damn nice beads. wow.

[LongDriving]

Wow! 45% increase. I would think one would need forged internals before that could be done.

[WhiteR/T07]

where do you get those valve covers?? they are NICE!!

[LongDriving]

They are nice

[NYCSRTATE]

Ide like to see a group but for the SMS if possible, $7k is a tad steep, $5500 would be a sweet deal on it.

[CHARGERTREV]

Wow! 45% increase. I would think one would need forged internals before that could be done.

Thats why its got a stroker in it. Its got a 426 with a blower on top.

[LongDriving]

Thats why its got a stroker in it. Its got a 426 with a blower on top.

True.

I was referring to "us" stock people about the Saleen article posted above.

[FreebirdSRT]

Like this one?
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/TREVORS%20CAR/DSC06109.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/TREVORS%20CAR/DSC06110.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/TREVORS%20CAR/DSC06111.jpg

This is Trojans brand new Challenger SRT. You should see his Chrysler 300C with 392 motor.

You can read all about what went into this beautiful Challenger in Trojans thread he posted about it.
http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=136075

Trojans Challenger was built in a very short time, for SEMA. SMS (Saleen), 426 motor, full roll cage, custom seat skins, custom 3 gauge A pillar, custom one off hood, etc. This is one bad mother F*****.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/FrontTop.jpg

new seat skins, roll cage and 4 point harness belts.
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/Interior1.jpg

[CHARGERTREV]

This is Trojans brand new Challenger SRT. You should see is Chrysler 300C with 392 motor.

Trojans Challenger was built in a very short time, for SEMA. SMS (Saleen), 426 motor, full roll cage, custom one off hood, etc. This is one bad mother F*****.

Yup....I love what he did. Chris is a cool guy......maybe he will sell me is car.

[RedHotSRT8]

Damn that car is hot.
Love those valve covers too...

Of course I love the SMS 296.
Once I can afford the $20k to do everything, I'll go ahead and get one...
426 short block, heads, cam, torque converter, half shafts and THEN the supercharger.... yummie...
Of course I'm talking years... sigh...

[zoomzoom1]

I had asked PPP, since they said that they were working with Steve on this, to give us an update, that was a month ago, still nothing......

[NYCSRTATE]

I had asked PPP, since they said that they were working with Steve on this, to give us an update, that was a month ago, still nothing......

A price reduction would be SWEET!!!!!!!

Help us our PPP!!!!!!!!!

[FreebirdSRT]

Yup....I love what he did. Chris is a cool guy......maybe he will sell me is car.

Yes Chris is a cool cat, but I don't think he is going to sell either his 300 or Challenger anytime soon.

[CHARGERTREV]

Yes Chris is a cool cat, but I don't think he is going to sell either his 300 or Challenger anytime soon.

We can wish...hmm is a superbee going up for sale? :D lol


Cant pick....your bee or his challenger.

[NYCSRTATE]

look at the scoop


Heck help us HHP too, ill take a break from anyone of these suppliers at this point!

[Sal SRT-8]

True.

I was referring to "us" stock people about the Saleen article posted above.

From what i read, SMS Blower IS for US stock people. They are setup (out of the box) for 4-5 psi BUT can be increased for those w a bulletproof bottom end.... From what I read....

[NYCSRTATE]

From what i read, SMS Blower IS for US stock people. They are setup (out of the box) for 4-5 psi BUT can be increased for those w a bulletproof bottom end.... From what I read....


You are correct sir.

[LongDriving]

That's good - did someone say group buy?

[NYCSRTATE]

That's good - did someone say group buy?

I know I did!!!!!:beerchug:

[WhiteR/T07]

can anyone help me out on those valve covers or are they one offs? really interested in them

[Sal SRT-8]

I know I did!!!!!:beerchug:

Twice!

To 2 diff vendors!

:deal:

[wrestlingnrj]

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/trevloveskayla/Interior1.jpg


Holy crap dude I want that cage in my car with those harnesses! I wonder if it would fit in my charger and how much it would cost. Does anyone know if SMS was the one who built it, because I literally work less than a mile from their facility?

[CHARGERTREV]

Holy crap dude I want that cage in my car with those harnesses! I wonder if it would fit in my charger and how much it would cost. Does anyone know if SMS was the one who built it, because I literally work less than a mile from their facility?

I think chris did it...I mean had parts made and installed but no I dont think SMS did the work.


From chris
"We took the hood, the front clip, rear clip, trunk, and rockers to Auto Explosion in Gardena for modifications and paint. Esteban and his son Damien "Ruff n Tuff"
are award winning painters and there shop puts out show cars all day long. They custom made this 1 off grill/Hood for me. I love you guys. We got the factory "Hemi Orange" paint code from Ted/Jeff at Mopar Super Center, Thanks you guys. MSC played a huge roll in my build. They shipped alot of products straight to Tony at BES for my motor build and help expedite alot of parts for me.
About 2 weeks into my build I was invited to SMS and went down there with Cam, One thing lead to another and I worked out a deal with SMS. Had to Call Josh and stop the motor build, We need low compression pistons and a different cam, Josh didnt flinch, Got me the pistons/cam and we moved on. The thought of that Super charger under the hood was all that mattered. Saleen was a name you could trust, There in my area, and there dedicated. For backing like that, I was, and still am thrilled to death. Thank you Sean and Steve.

With all that in the works I sent my car over to the fab shop for this 6 pt roll cage, The cage is completely removable and NHRA legal, The door bars come out,
and because its removable I was able to powder cote it as well. Im real happy with it, Simpsons sent me the 5pt harness's, as the final touch.


We custom made the 3 pod gauge pillar ourselves and Mannie's friend did all the Interior for me. Suede head liner and pillars, They replaced my seat foam with stiffer foam on the sides and the did a little bit of reshaping with the bolsters. All the stitching was done in Orange. I got the shifter from Jeff at MSC.

Meanwhile back at the ranch I went down to see Jose at I.D wheels and he cut this 5 spokes for me, Had them powdercoted black and we had "Pinstrip Bob" come down and do the pin striping. TOYO st II's on the front and rear."

[FreebirdSRT]

We can wish...hmm is a superbee going up for sale? :D lol


Cant pick....your bee or his challenger.

No my Super Bee is not going up for sale. I would not have repaired the car from the wreck if I was not going to keep it.

I love my Bee and want to keep it for many years to come, that is why I repaired it and not let it die after the wreck.

[NYCSRTATE]

can anyone help me out on those valve covers or are they one offs? really interested in them

I beleive Summit Racing has them for sale.

[xrated]

very nice!! i need to call sean at sms and go visit after work! :)

[NYCSRTATE]

very nice!! i need to call sean at sms and go visit after work! :)

Ask him about a group buy!!!

PLEASE!!!! :beerchug:

[xrated]

i will wait til they are back from SEMA, if they went!! lol..I will try and call him this nextweek

[NYCSRTATE]

i will wait til they are back from SEMA, if they went!! lol..I will try and call him this nextweek

Awesome man, its a start :rocker:

[wrestlingnrj]

I think chris did it...I mean had parts made and installed but no I dont think SMS did the work.


From chris
"We took the hood, the front clip, rear clip, trunk, and rockers to Auto Explosion in Gardena for modifications and paint. Esteban and his son Damien "Ruff n Tuff"
are award winning painters and there shop puts out show cars all day long. They custom made this 1 off grill/Hood for me. I love you guys. We got the factory "Hemi Orange" paint code from Ted/Jeff at Mopar Super Center, Thanks you guys. MSC played a huge roll in my build. They shipped alot of products straight to Tony at BES for my motor build and help expedite alot of parts for me.
About 2 weeks into my build I was invited to SMS and went down there with Cam, One thing lead to another and I worked out a deal with SMS. Had to Call Josh and stop the motor build, We need low compression pistons and a different cam, Josh didnt flinch, Got me the pistons/cam and we moved on. The thought of that Super charger under the hood was all that mattered. Saleen was a name you could trust, There in my area, and there dedicated. For backing like that, I was, and still am thrilled to death. Thank you Sean and Steve.

With all that in the works I sent my car over to the fab shop for this 6 pt roll cage, The cage is completely removable and NHRA legal, The door bars come out,
and because its removable I was able to powder cote it as well. Im real happy with it, Simpsons sent me the 5pt harness's, as the final touch.


We custom made the 3 pod gauge pillar ourselves and Mannie's friend did all the Interior for me. Suede head liner and pillars, They replaced my seat foam with stiffer foam on the sides and the did a little bit of reshaping with the bolsters. All the stitching was done in Orange. I got the shifter from Jeff at MSC.

Meanwhile back at the ranch I went down to see Jose at I.D wheels and he cut this 5 spokes for me, Had them powdercoted black and we had "Pinstrip Bob" come down and do the pin striping. TOYO st II's on the front and rear."

Do you have Chris' screen name or contact info so I can get in touch with him about it?

[xrated]

jarvis, i have his contact here:

714*400*2121 ext.216

just mention me who will take him fishin sometime when we are both free to go..my car also from the julian cruise. :)

[desertcharger]

:up_to_something:

Now THAT has me thinking!!!

:rocker:

Sounds like about 50 more horse to the wheels than a Procharger?:D

[tank8289]

Ok this is trojan's car. Its pretty sick. First off the valve covers are one-offs he had made one off i'm pretty sure. They're a pain in the ass to install and really only for looks right now, i think he had them made for the hopes of rocker upgrades in the future, where as the new rocker ratios will need more clearance. Second the SMS/Techno blower does not need forged internals, these were built to run on completely stock motors and i believe that anyone at SMS/Techno will completely agree that these superchargers were built keeping in mind that most of them will be going on top of completely stock motors, except for the fact of the lucky few with strokers, which this unit will also be able to perform on top of.

[tank8289]

Do you have Chris' screen name or contact info so I can get in touch with him about it?

You can contact Trojan over on lxforums, thats chris. Also i think that Cam did most of his work for him so you can probably contact him as well over on lxforums.

[mighty noid]

Value covers are built by Moroso and they are the first set. Their were a few little things that need to be fixed on them before they mass produce them. They will not be cheap. They will be in the range of 800 bucks for the set. Also like Tank said, they were made for the larger rocker arms that will be produced very soon. They are taller than stock.

There are no numbers yet on Trojan's car with the SMS on it. It was put on the car and taken straight to SEMA. He did dyno the car stock motor and was at 396 or 398 at the wheels. Then it was removed for the stroked out forged 426. No dyno numbers because the car was built in 2 months, from start to finish. No break in miles on the car with the 426, so no dyno.


The SMS kits are not ready to ship from what I understand. So there are no numbers from anyone. Not even them.

Hope that this answers a few of your questions...

:)

Enjoy your day... :) :)

[desertcharger]

Hope that this answers a few of your questions...

:)

Enjoy your day... :) :)

Well...no...didn't answer mine:umbrella:
:biggrinjester:

Thanks for the info.. looking forward to seeing more when they get them going!:rocker:
:beerchug:

[mighty noid]

Also one of Trojan's buddy made the roll cage... the cool thing about it... you can remove it, if you want to...

:)

[xrated]

that blower is nice!

[wlsweather]

I called Sean a few weeks ago to inquire about the SC, and he mentioned there was a price break for "pre-orders" of the system. Not sure if that's still available, but it was enticing!

[Sal SRT-8]

well i was at lx forums yesterday and i found out that TechCo makes the units for SMS.... so now i wonder if they will sell for less than SMS? Either way, i am now waiting to see how these bad boys work out and also waiting for the PPP/Whipple Charger....:rocker:

[wrestlingnrj]

I just got a tour of the Techco/SMS facility and they definitely have their heads in the game. They handle everything from design, R&D to installation all in house and they definitely know what they are doing. Techco was started by a bunch of guys from Saleen and they brought all of their expertise with them. They should have some more info up on their blower within the next couple days too.

[SRT8U]

For those interested we will be installing teh first 5.7L Techco S/C in the coming weeks, in addition we are doing a 426 Stoker w/ Techco S/C which will produce 800+ HP. For those that don't know Techco designs and builds the Superchargers, they just put the SMS label on them for the SMS Challengers. We still have pre-order pricing available 6999.88 the price goes to 7499.88 when the first 100 units have shipped!

Here is a link for more info...
http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/product_p/tec-sc-61.htm

just takes a refundable $500.00 deposit to lock in your order and the balance is paid when your unit ships.

Here are a few videos:
http://tvbmc.com/search.php

[PlumCrazy159]

found the valve covers for $695
http://estore.websitepros.com/802805/Detail.bok?no=1593