STS Twin Turbo System - 5.7 and 6.1

[tbyrne]

We are pleased to announce the release of the STS Twin Turbo System for the Chrysler/Dodge Hemi LX platform vehicles!

The 5.7L and 6.1L Dodge Charger, Chrysler 300C, and Dodge Magnum from model years 2005 to 2008 are ready to be unleashed!

With stock engines and a conservative 5-6 pounds of boost, you can expect approximately 540 Horsepower and 620 ft-lb Torque after installing their patented rear-mount turbo system on your 5.7L! That is a 60% increase in both horsepower and torque!

Your 6.1L SRT8 will see approximately 630 Horsepower and 650 ft-lb Torque after the install!

Have a built engine? The "Twins" have plenty more power to give!

*Horsepower numbers are flywheel

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Video on YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiJZxBOwJZ8

Benefits of STS Remote-Mounted Turbochargers -

Lower underhood temperatures. No need to worry about melting wires, hoses, or other engine components, as with a front-mounted turbo.

Ease of installation. STS turbo systems can be installed in about 8 hours with standard tools and average mechanical ability.

Cooler oil to the turbo. Cool oil is better for both the turbo and engine.

Performance Sound. The turbo acts as a muffler and sounds like an aftermarket performance muffler. Turbo spool and rushing air from the blow-off valve make a unique sound that will turn heads!

No need for major modifications to your vehicle. STS systems are designed to "bolt-on" to factory mounts.

Increased gas mileage. Unlike a belt driven supercharger, the turbo utilizes "wasted" energy leaving your tailpipe. Most of our customers get 1-3 mpg increase in gas mileage compared to their original stock mpg numbers.

Converts back to stock in about an hour.

More room under the hood. Future repair work or modifications will not require the expense of removing the turbo system to allow access to engine components.

Lowest Intake Air Temps. Low IAT's equate to more horsepower per pound of boost than any other forced induction option. STS intake piping provides built-in intercooling. Add the optional intercooler, and IAT's drop even further.

Approximately 500F lower turbo temperatures. Eliminates the need for a turbo-timer, which allows the engine to run after the car is shut off in order to cool down the turbo and prevent oil and bearing damage.

Denser exhaust gasses drive the turbo turbine wheel more efficiently.

Turbo is exposed to ambient air rather than underhood air. Allows for better cooling of turbo components.

No need for expensive headers, mufflers, or exhaust systems.

Turbo is closer to the tail pipe outlet. Provides a better pressure differential across the turbine wheel which promotes better flow across turbine.

Better weight transfer. Increases traction because the bulk of system is mounted in rear of vehicle rather than up front.

Less noise and heat in the passenger compartment.

Tom

[dustinc22]

Looks cool but man that sound is just to much. Maybe it is just the video but man that is an embarrassing sound.

Are their any kind of over time test results? Miles with system, etc...

[dustinc22]

No one has anything to say about this.

[crazylikeacharger]

yeah the sound is too ricey like. if the whistle was more like a diesel truck then it might be a little better

[RitzRT]

yeah the sound is too ricey like. if the whistle was more like a diesel truck then it might be a little better

It does sound like a party whistle. People will be waiting to see how many clowns come pouring out of the doors when you stop.

No thanks.

[tbyrne]

I've sold quite a few of these for other vehicles and used one on an '04 GTO (LS1 motor). They work very well! Alot of import owners go with a turbo instead of a supercharger so people associate this with those cars. I think the turbo sounds better in person. The video doesn't really do it justice.

Tom

[sharp charge]

Who cares how the turbo sounds as long as it performs. How much??

[KStryker]

LOL, that sound would get annoying fast...but like sharp said....The performance is main deal breaker!

[dustinc22]

I've sold quite a few of these for other vehicles and used one on an '04 GTO (LS1 motor). They work very well! Alot of import owners go with a turbo instead of a supercharger so people associate this with those cars. I think the turbo sounds better in person. The video doesn't really do it justice.

Tom

There is also clip of a challenger with this set up but it is on a dyno and you can barely here the whistle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzGh6ERXcxo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt1NLyRbmIA

Would you say it is more like the 6.1 sound and the cameras mic is just very sensitive to high pitch? Or is the 5.7 sound much different?

Thanks

[crazylikeacharger]

im in with dustin on that is the sound of the 6.1 and 5.7 the same and i would like to see one in person. LX and BEYOND MAYBE??? GUYS????

[desertcharger]

I agree- the sound made me think of a cartoon character running away-
but I'm sure that can be modified?

[Mik3y]

I wouldnt mind the sound.
Anyways by the time someone heard the whistle
i would be gone.

[csg27]

Is everyone seriously saying no to this because of the sound of the turbos? I think the last thing a person would be laughing at is the high pitch sound after you just shamed them off the line...

[Can Can]

People will be waiting to see how many clowns come pouring out of the doors when you stop.


Funniest line of the week!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the laugh, brother. I needed that.:bigthumb:

Paul

[Moparrbust]

Is everyone seriously saying no to this because of the sound of the turbos? I think the last thing a person would be laughing at is the high pitch sound after you just shamed them off the line...


Not true for me...........I have had my azz handed to me several times at the track by "all motor" Honduhs and all I think about is how horrible their car sounds and how ****ty it looks. There will always be faster cars than yours.

If I had a 5.7 Charger you couldn't pay me to have a setup that sounds like that on my car...............but the 6.1 didn't sound bad at all. It's just too hard to tell though without experiencing it in person without distortion.

[dustinc22]

Not saying no to it. I just want to know if that is an accurate sound clip. Personally I would not be able to deal with it long term. But if it was a track only car no problem. On a daily I wonder if you could modify it with some DHM cut outs or something and deactivate the turbos when on the streets.

[RitzRT]

There is also clip of a challenger with this set up but it is on a dyno and you can barely here the whistle.


That's not surprising at all. Have you ever stood next to a dyno? The roar is very very loud and in an enclosed garage it can easily drown out the clown whistle. Outside, that whistling noise will be a lot more pronounced. Perhaps some folks would overlook that in exchange for a speedier ride. I'm not one of those. It takes all kinds, I guess. I'd rather have the turbos up front where they belong and in FRONT of the mufflers.

Cheers,

[Samoan Tsunami]

i think the first vid posted just isnt an accurate representation of the sound it makes.... even in the first few second you get so much background noise of wind blowing and its like a cell phone camera is taking the vid.

the sounds of the challenger (mainly in the second vid) is more or less what you should be hearing with this setup. some cams just dont have a full range of sound that is recorded, so you may get more of the high pitched whine than any of the bass the system produces....which naturally when both are applied you get the real sound with the highs and lows.



honestly, i think its a bad azz setup. hopefully it doesnt get too much negative press from those who only know "hearsay" as opposed to fact, like most of the boosted setups. these cars are still relatively new and theres only a few pioneers brave enough to boost.... reading through the forums, theres A LOT of negativity towards boost with a good deal of misinformation backing it up.

by the way, did they ever produce the v6 version from this company yet that has been rumored forever?

[CharlieS]

it does sound like a party whistle. People will be waiting to see how many clowns come pouring out of the doors when you stop.

No thanks.

lol!

[Pointeo13]

I would love to have this on my car, but I can’t give up my E-cutout’s sound, I love my car being loud. That and I don’t want girls to turn their heads because they think i am whistling at them :biggrinjester:

[a39er1218]

is there a price on the twins for a 6.1?

[tbyrne]

is there a price on the twins for a 6.1?

The price that we can advertise is $8199.99. If you give me a call or shoot an e-mail over, I can get you a much better price.

Tom

[Malek]

seems like a great idea but wouldn't you be out a whole crap load of cash if you got hit in the rear or clipped in the sides on the back end. Sure you would have to pay for the body repair but then you would have to get a new turbo set up.

[NBx33]

I spotted this video on youtube. And couldnt believe it. I stated then on youtube that Those whistle tips sound awesome.
I am sure everyone has seen thos clip on exhaust whistle tips that simulate turbo sound. And this saounds just like it. Maybe i need to give that knock off company some more credit.

It to be honest didnt blow my mind in acceleration either. My car seems and feels to jump off the line just as suffiecient.

But I think you need dyno numbers, Track videos versus a N/A R/T or even an SRT8 Stock.

On CF there is a guy who has a turbo kit mounted under his SRT8 Bee. in his sig..... His setup look 100% different then this.


It sounds horrible. I can't get over it. The massive cluster of piping under the rear bumper. make it a squick target for theft. Quite differently then the turbo cars i have built and driven. But the true balls out performance once shown in video could easily make me hush up.

[NBx33]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c107/Nbx33/underchassis.jpg Sip pic from Mr. Mopar.

I kinda like this setup. Less bulk at the bumper. even tho this is centered. Now that i look at it it look to be a single turbo setup.

Who system is this and Howdoes yours top this setup.

Is it possible to stuff the 2 turbo's Where the huge suitcase muffler is/was.

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[kru510]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c107/Nbx33/underchassis.jpg Sip pic from Mr. Mopar.

I kinda like this setup. Less bulk at the bumper. even tho this is centered. Now that i look at it it look to be a single turbo setup.

Who system is this and Howdoes yours top this setup.

Is it possible to stuff the 2 turbo's Where the huge suitcase muffler is/was.

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thats the cis single turbo setup..

[Houston_Hemi]

I wouldnt mind the sound.
Anyways by the time someone heard the whistle
i would be gone.

So X2 on that... Turn up the radio if you don't like the sound. If anyone has a problem with the sound, let them tell me if they could catch me.

I so want that system..

[vwdave]

Good reason it sounds like that. Mainly due to the fact that the turbo sits so far back, there is no piping or muffler behind it. Turbos with no muffler (and essentially no piping) behind it have a loud pitched whistle.

[HERONTN]

Good reason it sounds like that. Mainly due to the fact that the turbo sits so far back, there is no piping or muffler behind it. Turbos with no muffler (and essentially no piping) behind it have a loud pitched whistle.

Maybe you should elaborate on your comment before I say something I've never said ... You have no idea what the hell you're talkin about :D I've owned one of these STS and the "loud pitch" has nothing to do with the way the first car sounded. The Challenger videos sound a whole lot more like what those turbos actually sound like.

[vwdave]

*Looks outside of office at the 3 current turbo projects* Youre right, I know nothing. :biggrinjester: If you count OEM cars that are turbo'd, Ive worked on a couple hundred. Being that I am still pretty young at 25, thats not too bad.

Ive run dozens of cars without proper downpipes/mufflers and intakes and such. Its louder than hell when you go into boost. (Since I dont know exactly the setup, I am going to base this on assumption.) If the turbo is of a smaller size and it has to spin faster to generate boost required by the engine, it can also become loud. Small boost leaks can also make a hellacious noise. Ive had one or two do it.

Take my opinion as how you want.

[BENISASPUD]

I would really like to get the twin turbo. I've even talked to you guys in person. But, I've just heard a lot of people having their engines blown at like 5-6 lbs. of boost. Do you guys cover the engine when that happens?

[HERONTN]

*Looks outside of office at the 3 current turbo projects* Youre right, I know nothing. :biggrinjester: If you count OEM cars that are turbo'd, Ive worked on a couple hundred. Being that I am still pretty young at 25, thats not too bad.

Ive run dozens of cars without proper downpipes/mufflers and intakes and such. Its louder than hell when you go into boost. (Since I dont know exactly the setup, I am going to base this on assumption.) If the turbo is of a smaller size and it has to spin faster to generate boost required by the engine, it can also become loud. Small boost leaks can also make a hellacious noise. Ive had one or two do it.

Take my opinion as how you want.

Touche', and with all your experience, which is very valuable, how many STS cars have you worked on?

[IslaTurbine]

Is that the video of Nighthawk from DFW LX? I haven't seen his car in real life yet, but everyone talks about it.

[vwdave]

I would really like to get the twin turbo. I've even talked to you guys in person. But, I've just heard a lot of people having their engines blown at like 5-6 lbs. of boost. Do you guys cover the engine when that happens?

How is it their fault the motors cant hold it?

Fortunately, none as I am a VW turbo person. ALL of the turbo setups are pre-cat. I am local to a few other shops that I am friends with (everyone seems to have a friend with a VW problem, so Ive gotten to know alot of shops in the area, that and I am well known in VW performance in south florida.) They've had a few, I wasnt impressed. They were louder than a pre-cat system.

I dont need a GS supercharger in my driveway to be able to tell you a few things I dont like about it. (Ironically, when I first heard it had 2 injectors in the intake piping, the first thing I said was "Uh oh, thats not going to work."

If I do decide to go through twin turboing my daytona I'll be more than glad to race a RMT car and do a dyno shootout on the same amount of boost.

Stupid question, what size turbos does the STS system use? Cause I will be using 2) GT2871's with .86 housings.

[HERONTN]

How is it their fault the motors cant hold it?

Fortunately, none as I am a VW turbo person. ALL of the turbo setups are pre-cat. I am local to a few other shops that I am friends with (everyone seems to have a friend with a VW problem, so Ive gotten to know alot of shops in the area, that and I am well known in VW performance in south florida.) They've had a few, I wasnt impressed. They were louder than a pre-cat system.

I dont need a GS supercharger in my driveway to be able to tell you a few things I dont like about it. (Ironically, when I first heard it had 2 injectors in the intake piping, the first thing I said was "Uh oh, thats not going to work."

If I do decide to go through twin turboing my daytona I'll be more than glad to race a RMT car and do a dyno shootout on the same amount of boost.

Stupid question, what size turbos does the STS system use? Cause I will be using 2) GT2871's with .86 housings.

The turbo on my camaro STS setup was 60-1 trim with an .86 housing flowing about 67 cfm. I'm fairly certain 5.7 ltr hemi vs 5.7 ltr LS1 they'd use the same turbos.

[asonitez]

1 Question,

Whens the one for the 3.5 coming out?

[HERONTN]

1 Question,

Whens the one for the 3.5 coming out?

They have a "Universal" Kit. So, I'm going to assume it's all ready out.

[vwdave]

The turbo on my camaro STS setup was 60-1 trim with an .86 housing flowing about 67 cfm. I'm fairly certain 5.7 ltr hemi vs 5.7 ltr LS1 they'd use the same turbos.

Ive used that turbo a few times with VR6 VW's. A 2.8l V6 engine using that turbo, a .58 housing will spool at 3000. Ive used the Hi-fi's, standard size, and 62-1's in that same motor. 350whp on 9psi. :p Hell, a VW 1.8t uses the GT28RS turbo with a .86 housing and spools at 3500.

My camaro (358" SBC) will be running a single GT4294 with a 1.0x housing and it SHOULD spool at 3200. That turbo will put out over 700whp.

The turbos I was planning on using will be .86 housings with a twin setup. The compressors will be a bit smaller than the 60, but will be extremely efficient.