Best wax on the market?

[JJ1o87]

Been doin some research before buying a clay bar and wax for the charger this summer. Was going to use turtle wax ice but not hearing anything spectacular about it. I have black so I'm wondering what your favorite wax on the market is that will really make the paint look like a mirror. The claybar i plan on using meguiars, worked great on my jeep.

[2008 Road and Track]

This is a good product

http://www.chemicalguys.com/Medium_Duty_Poly_Clay_Bar_Kit_With_Clay_Lubricant_ p/cly_109.htm

[2008 Road and Track]

For a black car, you want to use the lest abrasive clay bars available, unless you have a very bad issue of tree sap and such like.

[2008 Road and Track]

Great wax also,

http://www.chemicalguys.com/White_Carnauba_Limited_Edition_50_50_Paste_Wax_p/wac_302.htm

[wrestlingnrj]

From what I've seen and heard Zymol has the best wax on the market, but I've never been able to use it because I can't afford it.

[lovin' it]

JJ1o87, The best wax IMHO is Zaino's. I have used Ice and do not care for it, It could have been a bad batch? But I doubt it. Mothers and Meguiars have some nice three step systems!

[moparmantorred]

saw a jar of wax that cost 1,900 bucks at drivers seat.

[REX-TB#390]

I like Zaino. http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc

Rex

[54chris]

Meguiars M21 or NXT tect wax 2.0 hands down. Havnt tried zano but i have heard the new tech wax 2.0 is easier to apply and take off and you achieve a higher level of gloss with one coat.

[ChargeRonDavinS]

Meguiars M21 or NXT tect wax 2.0 hands down. Havnt tried zano but i have heard the new tech wax 2.0 is easier to apply and take off and you achieve a higher level of gloss with one coat.

Used the tech on my durango, it's good and all but nothin on zaino, (from what I've seen)

just my .02. Gotta tella ya though, the tech 2.0 is good chit, even if it isnt as good as zaino (10x as much)

[CTsrt8]

Zaino is good, no doubt. If you want to stick with a good wax that can be picked up at your local Walmart or auto parts store. Zymoil or Meguairs NXT. I myself use the Meguairs NXT & have for years. It's easy to use, can be bought for around $15 a bottle, & lasts awhile also. The Turtle Wax Ice in my opinion isn't all that good. The only thing I found it good for was the exterior plastic. It shines it up without running down the paint the next time it rains.

[j.a.m.]

i want to try alsa corp gleam looks good.

http://www.alsacorp.com/products/gleam/gleam.htm

[RitzRT]

Been doin some research before buying a clay bar and wax for the charger this summer. Was going to use turtle wax ice but not hearing anything spectacular about it. I have black so I'm wondering what your favorite wax on the market is that will really make the paint look like a mirror. The claybar i plan on using meguiars, worked great on my jeep.

You'll get a million different answers. Go talk to a few concourse guys with trailer queens and you'll notice one similarity...not a single one of those guys uses "off the shelf" or commonly available polish/wax products. The professional grade product is so much better and not THAT much more expensive.

Cheers,

[sco_pet]

meguiars NXT 2.0!!! i use that on my black beauty and it has done the best so far...

[SXT=3.5L=250hp]

NXT 2.0 any day hands down. Zaino is good but it take more time to remove. NXT 2.0 is so incredibly easy to apply and remove. Not only that it gives a mirror finish on the first coat....unlike ZAINO!!

[JJ1o87]

thanks for the responses so far guys!

[talktoandy]

I use pinnacle souverain on my black car. The shine is amazing. The detail spray works great after a wash or just to do a dry clean.

[charger08srt]

meguiars NXT 2.0!!! i use that on my black beauty and it has done the best so far...

i might try this stuff

[PickardvilleSRT8]

I have good luck with Meguiars products. I use the gold class stuff on my SRT pretty much exclusively and I like it. On my old black Chevy truck Meguiars gave me the best results and I pretty much tried all the brands I was able to find. There may be better products but a deep glossy shine is a deep glossy shine, no matter the brand.

[Part Deux]

Hmmm probably have more luck proving which is the best oil

I use P21s

[dustinc22]

I use Klasse and have nothing but great results and long time shine and protection.

http://www.autogeek.net/klasse.html?gclid=COnzgq7LgZMCFQUilwodFUMfFQ

[calvinator]

I've been using "Cherry Gloss" for a few years. A guy at a body shop gave me a bottle and it works great. I wax once in the spring.

From then on out, I use Turtle Wax Express. Spray on, wipe off 10 minute kinda deal.

[2008 Road and Track]

I use Klasse and have nothing but great results and long time shine and protection.

http://www.autogeek.net/klasse.html?gclid=COnzgq7LgZMCFQUilwodFUMfFQ

I have the same stuff. Wow, I never heard of anyone else on this forum talk about Klasse, but me. Cool

[2008 Road and Track]

I use pinnacle souverain on my black car. The shine is amazing. The detail spray works great after a wash or just to do a dry clean.

I also use this too. They say that you can layer the souverain. Good shine.

[talktoandy]

I believe the Klasse is a paint sealant. I use a paint sealant every 6 months. Wash, clay, polish, paint sealant then wax. Otherwise I try to wax about every 6 weeks with detail spray in between.

[Jeffb1124]

The wax/sealant should be used to protect & lock in the look, not to enhance the look. Like it or not the more prep work that goes into your detail the better it'll look once it is all complete. Doesn't matter what wax/sealant you use if your paint is in bad condition, it will still look like crap after you have waxed it.
Take the time to learn how to correct paint problems. It is important to use a clay bar to remove objects that are in your paint that a simple wash will not remove. It is important to correct as much marring as you can safely to allow the deep reflective look that is desired. It also is very important to learn how to wash a car without inducing scratches every time you wash the car.
Every one says how amazing Zaino is. It's not much or even better than other products (appearance wise), it just requires you to prep the paint. I myself have had good results using a combination of products from Optimum for paint correction to Duragloss to seal the paint. My neighbor could get the exact same results from using all meguiar products as long as he takes the time to get the paint in the best condition. Find whatever products work for you and enjoy!
One warning though, once you start it can become addicting!

[black08]

From what I've seen and heard Zymol has the best wax on the market, but I've never been able to use it because I can't afford it.

Zymol is really good stuff..i have used it many times. I use it as a cleaner wax and then i use meguires gold class liquid....this stuff is pretty damn good too.

[roman371]

Been doin some research before buying a clay bar and wax for the charger this summer. Was going to use turtle wax ice but not hearing anything spectacular about it. I have black so I'm wondering what your favorite wax on the market is that will really make the paint look like a mirror. The claybar i plan on using meguiars, worked great on my jeep.

For a black car, you will eventually get swirls and want some good polish and sealant. Read up on these... I like Klasse products with some Poorboys Carnuba wax to finish it off and give it a WET BIKINI look....:slapper:

[Richie Carbone]

If you're expecting the wax to enhance your shine, you are putting the cart before the horse.

You need a good swirl remover and polish to really make the paint pop!

For the best possible shine on a black car you should clay the entire car including the glass, and wheels.

Then follow up with Adam's Swirl & Haze Remover.

Next polish with Adam's Revive Polish (this will really make the paint shine)

Last but not least finish with Adam's Buttery Wax.


These are the results of using Adam's products on my car.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/041008_1333.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/041008_1329.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/041008_1334.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/041008_1330.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/041008_1335.jpg

[2008 Road and Track]

I think I can see myself in your paint over here. WOW

[Richie Carbone]

I think I can see myself in your paint over here. WOW

Thanks!

Here's a few more.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/042708_1372.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/042708_1375.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/042708_1376.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/042708_1378.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/042708_1377.jpg

[2008 Road and Track]

overall, very smooth looking paint job. looks like butter ;)

[RitzRT]

If you're expecting the wax to enhance your shine, you are putting the cart before the horse.

You need a good swirl remover and polish to really make the paint pop!

For the best possible shine on a black car you should clay the entire car including the glass, and wheels.

Then follow up with Adam's Swirl & Haze Remover.

Next polish with Adam's Revive Polish (this will really make the paint shine)

Last but not least finish with Adam's Buttery Wax.

I have all those products and have used them all. The polishes are fine (they are not very abrasive so it is difficult to get yourself into trouble). The buttery wax does give a fantastic shine. It's shortcoming is that it doesn't last much longer than 2-3 weeks. So I only use it on TOP of Menzerna FMJ (which lasts a good 6 months). That combination gives you that "dip your arm into the paint" sense of depth.

BTW, nice job on the detail. It looks great!

Cheers,

[BrianG]

Great pics, i use liquid glass and have had good luck with it along with Zaino wash and detailer spray.

[live2well]

Adams is the way to go ....and they are a support vendor....look for the discount in the vendor section.

[JJ1o87]

If you're expecting the wax to enhance your shine, you are putting the cart before the horse.

You need a good swirl remover and polish to really make the paint pop!

For the best possible shine on a black car you should clay the entire car including the glass, and wheels.

Then follow up with Adam's Swirl & Haze Remover.

Next polish with Adam's Revive Polish (this will really make the paint shine)

Last but not least finish with Adam's Buttery Wax.


These are the results of using Adam's products on my car.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/041008_1333.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/041008_1329.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/041008_1334.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/041008_1330.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s12/poneklr/041008_1335.jpg

You just sold me.

[wrestlingnrj]

You just sold me.

x2 Get paid tomorrow and I'll order some Adams Polishes products.

[njchargerfan]

I see alot of talk about zymol. I have been using zymol for over 15 yrs. I love it but be aware that there is a cheap version of zymol that is actually made by turtle wax. It is the liquid. Real zymol is hard like a candle. They have several types..like jopan, carbon ..etc. They gererally run about 50 bucks and up. I believe zymol is actually made in sweden. Great stuff. They have a whole line of products.

[SupremeG]

What would be a recommended wax for Daytona's? I know ICE can work with the decals, I had looked at getting NXT but the bottle says not to be used on vynal's, any other brand that I can use that is bought at auto stores?

[tatoofr]

meguiars NXT 2.0!!! i use that on my black beauty and it has done the best so far...

Hi,
Does it leave the white streaks on the plastic that you never can get off?
I used Ice, its ok, but I like the fact you can go over the plastic with no white marks .

[hemi165]

I only use Collinite 476 S super doublecoat wax...I'm using it for 20 years.

[Here'sJohnny]

If you like meguire's and don't want to spend Zymol money, then try Mirror Glaze, it is meguire's pro-end... what USED to be meguires before they went all polymer... They have every polishing level from fine swirl to rubbing compound in a very easy numbered system.... and they have straight wax for layering a nice shine too.

[SXT=3.5L=250hp]

What would be a recommended wax for Daytona's? I know ICE can work with the decals, I had looked at getting NXT but the bottle says not to be used on vynal's, any other brand that I can use that is bought at auto stores?

NXT 2.0 and Ultimate Quick wax eliminates that...! :P Just a hint.

[RTforUs]

I use Zaino and love it!

(By the way, I'm just a novice! This is my only "shine" project :) )

So, here are a few of my favorite "shine" shots :yes: - Tammy
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j77/RTforUs/misc/Charger%20-%20web/nearGulfstream.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j77/RTforUs/PA150514.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j77/RTforUs/misc/Charger%20-%20web/atJohnPrincePark-1.jpg

The time is coming soon to redo everything starting with the clay bar.....

[charger08srt]

i have to say after using it and then going to the store to compare it to store bought brands of wax... ice by turtle wax... you can use it whether in shade or in direct sunlight, you can use it all the trim, which most brands you can't, and it's easy to remove after you apply. also, it looks great, especially on black

[SupremeG]

NXT 2.0 and Ultimate Quick wax eliminates that...! :P Just a hint.

I can't, on the bottle is says not be used on vynal, rubber, plactic, or other non-painted surfaces. So I guess I'm stuck with ICE, I've got no problem with ICE, I just wanted to see what are the results with other brands.

[Corrupt112]

Ive always been a fan of the The Gold Class Products they have a great shine and a smooth as hell finish. I tried the Turle Wax Ice and i really wasnt impressed the feel of one coat of it VS the meguiars Gold Class was not even close the Gold Class felt way better then the Ice although i was very impressed with the Turtle Wax Ice ability to bead the water on the paint man that stuff has super beading action.. Anyone have the Perma Plate sealant on there car???

[SXT=3.5L=250hp]

I use NXT 2.0 in my spoiler and mirrors....trust me!!! No problem!!

[SupremeG]

I use NXT 2.0 in my spoiler and mirrors....trust me!!! No problem!!

I tested it on small portion of the decal and spoiler, so far no problems. It actually made the decal and spoiler a darker color, at least on the area I tested it on. Next week I'll do a complete detail using the NXT and post pictures. I'm just hoping that going from ICE to NXT won't affect how the water beads up when it rains or when water touches the paint.

[badcop804]

I also use the klasse and I love it. I also liked Mothers carnuba and the turtle Ice. All three are pretty good but for that extra special finish...I like to use Klasse all in one and then the Klasse high gloss sealant glaze. The Klasse high gloss sealant glaze is a bitch to get off though.

[TopBanana107]

If you like meguire's and don't want to spend Zymol money, then try Mirror Glaze, it is meguire's pro-end... what USED to be meguires before they went all polymer... They have every polishing level from fine swirl to rubbing compound in a very easy numbered system.... and they have straight wax for layering a nice shine too.

x2...All I use is Mirror Glaze professional Series stuff from Meguiars. Clay, Polish, and Wax...and Vinyl cleaner conditioner too!:grin:

[fco51stlrs]

I also use this too. They say that you can layer the souverain. Good shine.

I use a 3M paste wax. About layers... If you wax and then spray it down with cold water after you speed up the cure time and can apply another coat.

[RitzRT]

I use a 3M paste wax. About layers... If you wax and then spray it down with cold water after you speed up the cure time and can apply another coat.

Actually, that's just patently false. Only time (or an oven) will speed up the curing time. If anything, dousing it with water will slow the curing process.

Cheers,

[MIAboi1221]

I have a black Charger and I use... Turtle Wax wash, Meguair's detail spray/ lubricant with clay bar, and Turtle Wax wax.

[AWD_Gabe]

I just did this yesterday .... clay bar followed by Meguiars Deep-Crystal-System Step 3 Carnauba Wax (also got it on some black trim with no white-out effects, came right off) ... came out awesome ... smooth, shiny, and slippery :rockon:



For a black car, you will eventually get swirls and want some good polish and sealant. Read up on these... I like Klasse products with some Poorboys Carnuba wax to finish it off and give it a WET BIKINI look....:slapper:

I use Poorboys Spray 'n' Wipe almost every day ... love the stuff !

[fco51stlrs]

Actually, that's just patently false. Only time (or an oven) will speed up the curing time. If anything, dousing it with water will slow the curing process.

Cheers,

that's funny because my family owned a huge hand wash and wax in downtown orlando for about 15 years. liquid glass and 3m reps advised this with their products. i'm sure an oven works for some wax like cold water will for mine. hell while i am at it i got a 17hp increase by switching to royal purple. to each his own

[RitzRT]

that's funny because my family owned a huge hand wash and wax in downtown orlando for about 15 years. liquid glass and 3m reps advised this with their products. i'm sure an oven works for some wax like cold water will for mine. hell while i am at it i got a 17hp increase by switching to royal purple. to each his own

*shrug* I guess that trumps my fancy schoolin and semesters of chemistry, organic chemistry, physics, materials science, etc....

Believe what you want.

Cheers,

[zoomzoom1]

I can't, on the bottle is says not be used on vynal, rubber, plactic, or other non-painted surfaces. So I guess I'm stuck with ICE, I've got no problem with ICE, I just wanted to see what are the results with other brands.

I use ICE also, with Clay Magic bar,fine, and Meg. detail spray. The longer in the sun, the better mine looks.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee32/zoomzoom1_photos/PA120092Medium.jpg
This was after a 4 hour drive and overnight, no detailing.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee32/zoomzoom1_photos/IMG_0001Medium.jpg

[SupremeG]

Here's my review of the two products. Woke up at 7AM this morning to get started on the detailing. Started off with Meguiars Gold Class car wash, used microfiber wash mit and microfiber towel to dry. Now to the wax, I had previously detailed my sisters car first with the NXT and spray so I have some experience with it. Applied the wax with the supplied applicator and used a small microfiber towel to buff off. The wax went on easily and came off easily as well. Waxing was the most time consuming part of the detail, everything else was quick. After the wax came the Meguiars Ultimate Detailing Spray, I made sure to keep the microfiber towel on hand as the spray will dry rather quickly. After the spray I cleaned the windows with Stoners and used Black Magic tire shine on the tires. Overall I would recommed this product as the shine, once its all done, looks awesome. My only suggest is that no one with decals use is, it has the tendency to leave the decals looking as if it still has wax on it. It's not noticeable unless you look closely, but if you have decals then go with ICE. Here, for everyones enjoyment, is the completed exterior detail pics.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb189/Daytona524/FR.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb189/Daytona524/RR.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb189/Daytona524/LR.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb189/Daytona524/FL.jpg

And my favorite by far, it almost looks unreal...
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb189/Daytona524/Fav.jpg

[Aremel]

I have used many different washes, waxes, polymers, etc., and honestly, there's just nothing wrong at all with Ice. It does a great job and I'll post pics tomorrow.

[charger08srt]

ICE ICE baby... wax:lol:

[AWD_Gabe]

ICE ICE baby... wax:lol:

post whore


:lol:

[nyfynest22]

collinite!!! you cant even buy this stuff from the stores.... BEST PRODUCT YET TRUST ME!

[JJ1o87]

Does anyone have any good methods of avoiding the plastic parts and ruining them? I was thinking of getting blue contractors tape and taping around the plastic.

[BLS]

Liquid Glass

[Black07SRT8]

I use the Zaino product line

I first heard about Zaino when I had my Red Nissan 350Z and the wow factor was immediate.
Since Zaino is 100% NON abrasive, you do not have to worry about it taking any paint off during application so the car looks better and better as you add more and more coats.

I was at a Z meet and it was there that I learned the trick of putting on a coat of pure Carnuba wax like Souveran Pinnacle Brazilain right before you are going to some event because it really makes Red and Blacks POP!

I am using now Zaino on my Black Charger.

No exaggeration but 2 weeks ago at our Southern Maryland M&G, two people asked me what I was using because they said they were really impressed with the look of the Black finish.

Best to follow their directions so I use several of the Zaino product line.
The main wax I use is Z2 Pro.
I use Z6 spray after I have dried the car after I wash it or after any wax job. I like the fact that Z6 'says' it is like SPF 40


Interesting thing about their top of the line Z8 which is to be used to enhance their wax type products,like Z2 or Z5:
I found the Z8 to make the Red finish on my Z have what I can only describe as making it have an odd reflection that I did not like so I stopped using it.
Couple of years later and I tried Z8 again on my Black Charger and it really sets it off

I am up to 4 coats of Z2 on the Car this year (I will only do the Z2/Z8 during the Winter) . Next Spring, it all comes offf with a clay bar and I start over again.

[JJ1o87]

I use the Zaino product line

I first heard about Zaino when I had my Red Nissan 350Z and the wow factor was immediate.
Since Zaino is 100% NON abrasive, you do not have to worry about it taking any paint off during application so the car looks better and better as you add more and more coats.

I was at a Z meet and it was there that I learned the trick of putting on a coat of pure Carnuba wax like Souveran Pinnacle Brazilain right before you are going to some event because it really makes Red and Blacks POP!

I am using now Zaino on my Black Charger.

No exaggeration but 2 weeks ago at our Southern Maryland M&G, two people asked me what I was using because they said they were really impressed with the look of the Black finish.

Best to follow their directions so I use several of the Zaino product line.
The main wax I use is Z2 Pro.
I use Z6 spray after I have dried the car after I wash it or after any wax job. I like the fact that Z6 'says' it is like SPF 40


Interesting thing about their top of the line Z8 which is to be used to enhance their wax type products,like Z2 or Z5:
I found the Z8 to make the Red finish on my Z have what I can only describe as making it have an odd reflection that I did not like so I stopped using it.
Couple of years later and I tried Z8 again on my Black Charger and it really sets it off

I am up to 4 coats of Z2 on the Car this year (I will only do the Z2/Z8 during the Winter) . Next Spring, it all comes offf with a clay bar and I start over again.

Thats a helluva nice finish. I'm detailing my car with Adams stuff tomorrow - we'll see how well it works!

[Black07SRT8]

Thats a helluva nice finish. I'm detailing my car with Adams stuff tomorrow - we'll see how well it works!

Thank you and I will be most interested in seeing the results of your labor as I have heard great things abut the Adams pruduct line