Stage 3 5.7 Heads on Sale!

[PPP-Tech]

We are having a sale on our stage 3 ported 5.7 heads for the next 2 weeks or until our supply runs out, whichever comes first. We have 9 sets and during this sale, our normal price of $2495 has been reduced to $2145 or you can get the heads and a cam of your choice for $2495. Here are some dyno results with our Stage 3 heads in place.

Stage 3 Heads/PPP Extreme Cam
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/DonGartner-1.jpg


Stage 3 Heads/PPP Race Cam
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/CMJ_Yellow.jpg


Stage 3 Heads/HHP Stage 3 Cam/HOP 392 Shortblock
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/DynoTrojan.jpg


Stage 3 Heads/PPP Race Cam/PPP 392 Shortblock
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/39257.jpg


Considering most stock 5.7 engines make around 270rwhp/300rwtq, these are massive gains on all three cars.

[Gilgamesh]

Damn guys those gains are huge for a 5.7L. Hell the first set making 403hp/410tque smokes most SRT numbers.

[Frankie3521]

Damn, these headers must be badass! Are headers bad on the engine or strain it any at all? Would these void my factory warranty?

[PPP-Tech]

Damn, these headers must be badass! Are headers bad on the engine or strain it any at all? Would these void my factory warranty?


heads not headers. I wish headers would do this much.

[KStryker]

Explaint to the noobs what Heads are cuz I was thinking headers myself :D

[Frankie3521]

Explaint to the noobs what Heads are cuz I was thinking headers myself :D

Yeah even my friend didn't know the difference, also explain the Stage 3 as well. This summer i'm going to get a job and definitely buy this!

[KStryker]

Also, If I was to buy these, would I be dead on to a stock SRT8 ?

[PPP-Tech]

Heads are the lungs of an engine. They mount on top of the pistons and below the intake manifold. They hold all the spark plugs, intake valves, exhaust valves, and the combustion chambers. Basically, the intake valve opens to let air/fuel into the combustion chamber and the the valve closes and the sparkplugs ignite this mixture sending the piston downward. Then the exhaust valve opens and lets the gases out and the entire process repeats itself. So basically, you improve heads by porting them to let more air/fuel in and out thus increasing power. Here are some pics of ported heads.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/Pikture019Medium.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/Pikture009Medium.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/Pikture007Medium.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/Pikture001Medium.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/1541522835_ca09eb0334_b.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/1541524985_e595870b78_b.jpg

[Frankie3521]

I see now, what does the stage 3 mean? And is this bad for my engine?

[PPP-Tech]

Also, If I was to buy these, would I be dead on to a stock SRT8 ?


If you buy heads and a cam along with a free-flowing exhaust. You have the ability to make more hp than an srt8. Every stock SRT8 we have every dynoed has made 350-360rwhp. Here is what is needed for 330-350rwhp
JBA Headers: $400
Free-Flowing Mufflers: $200
Diablo Predator: $349.99
Stage 1 Heads: $995
Cam: $475
Total: $2419.99

For 350-375rwhp
JBA Headers: $400
Free-Flowing Mufflers: $200
Diablo Predator: $349.99
Stage 2 Heads: $1995
Cam: $475
Total: $3419.99

For 380-410rwhp
JBA Headers: $400
Free-Flowing Mufflers: $200
Diablo Predator: $349.99
Stage 3 Heads/Cam: $2495
6.1 Injectors: $399
Total: $3843.99



That is the bare minimum to achieve those numbers.

[PPP-Tech]

I see now, what does the stage 3 mean? And is this bad for my engine?


We have 3 different levels of cylinder head porting. Stage 3 has the biggest ports and the biggest valves basically. No, they are not bad for your engine unless you are not using the Diablo predator to add the necessary fuel to go with the extra air coming into the engine.

[Frankie3521]

If you buy heads and a cam along with a free-flowing exhaust. You have the ability to make more hp than an srt8. Every stock SRT8 we have every dynoed has made 350-360rwhp. Here is what is needed for 330-350rwhp
JBA Headers: $400
Free-Flowing Mufflers: $200
Diablo Predator: $349.99
Stage 1 Heads: $995
Cam: $475
Total: $2419.99

For 350-375rwhp
JBA Headers: $400
Free-Flowing Mufflers: $200
Diablo Predator: $349.99
Stage 2 Heads: $1995
Cam: $475
Total: $3419.99

For 380-410rwhp
JBA Headers: $400
Free-Flowing Mufflers: $200
Diablo Predator: $349.99
Stage 3 Heads/Cam: $2495
6.1 Injectors: $399
Total: $3843.99



That is the bare minimum to achieve those numbers.

I can buy all of these products from PPP?

[PPP-Tech]

I can buy all of these products from PPP?

yes sir, you can actually pick them up from us and get it installed here and tuned here. We are in Newport, KY.

[Frankie3521]

yes sir, you can actually pick them up from us and get it installed here and tuned here. We are in Newport, KY.

How much would it installed to get the medium package done there, what would be the grand total?

[PPP-Tech]

The second package has the following
For 350-375rwhp
JBA Headers: $400
Free-Flowing Mufflers: $200
Diablo Predator: $349.99
Stage 2 Heads: $1995
Cam: $475
Total: $3419.99

Your looking at about 14 hours at $85 per hour and about 2 hours of dyno tuning time at $125 per hour. Here is a dyno sheet with a customers that has that package.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/57TrackwarriorStage2Heads.jpg

[Frankie3521]

Damn..it's 1.5k for installation alone. I might have to find another way of getting some power, I don't want to work during school and I don't even think I could make close to that much money during the summer. I think I might go get some NOS or something, lol.

[PPP-Tech]

Damn..it's 1.5k for installation alone. I might have to find another way of getting some power, I don't want to work during school and I don't even think I could make close to that much money during the summer. I think I might go get some NOS or something, lol.



You may be better off with the following:
Diablo, CAI, catback, JBA's, and underdrive pulley. That would be considerably less money.

[Frankie3521]

You may be better off with the following:
Diablo, CAI, catback, JBA's, and underdrive pulley. That would be considerably less money.

I really hate aggravating you man, but what kind of gains do you say I would see with that?

[PPP-Tech]

I really hate aggravating you man, but what kind of gains do you say I would see with that?

I would say probably in the 30-50rwhp range. We can get 30 with just a tune and a CAI, so I think 40-50 might be closer.

[Frankie3521]

I would say probably in the 30-50rwhp range. We can get 30 with just a tune and a CAI, so I think 40-50 might be closer.

Think I could be taking stock GT's with that?

[PPP-Tech]

Depends on how good of a driver you are. It would be a drivers race at that point.

[TBYDaytona40]

Andy, is that dyno pull on a predator tuned engine? I love that HP number, but I saw a competitors dyno chart on heads, cam, kooks with 455 tq. I figure yours would match, that other dyno pull was just a modified 91 CAI Diablo. Wondering if a lack of tune is holding your numbers up?

[KStryker]

Damn, I kinda wish I didnt max my credit card out back when I was in college, I would so go get that maxed package right now :(

[Frankie3521]

Depends on how good of a driver you are. It would be a drivers race at that point.

Well, I would probably still lose as i'm a terrible driver..haha.

[PPP-Tech]

Andy, is that dyno pull on a predator tuned engine? I love that HP number, but I saw a competitors dyno chart on heads, cam, kooks with 455 tq. I figure yours would match, that other dyno pull was just a modified 91 CAI Diablo. Wondering if a lack of tune is holding your numbers up?


I have never seen a stock block 5.7 make 455rwtq. I think you might have been looking at a 6.1 or a 392. Our heads just took home the trophy at the cylinder head shoot-out, so I cant see someone making that much more power on the same setup.

http://www.******************/forums/showthread.php?t=3371
It will not let me link the thread. Its at srt connection . com under the hop vendor section.

[TBYDaytona40]

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57736&page=44
I will look for the dyno sheet if he posted it. Its The Saturn V's car. It is for sure a 5.7. I know. I helped on the install. Not doubting you have monster's man. I am just wondering if there is even more to be had from them. He couldnt hang with your HP though, fell about 20 shy. Def a 5.7 Top Banana.
Thats his on the left, mine on the right.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z4/TBYDaytona40/camapalooza/camapalooza028.jpg

[KStryker]

LOL Twins! Umm TB is showing off with his SWEET looking steering wheel :D

[PPP-Tech]

I will look for the dyno sheet if he posted it. Its The Saturn V's car. It is for sure a 5.7. I know. I helped on the install. Not doubting you have monster's man. I am just wondering if there is even more to be had from them. He couldnt hang with your HP though, fell about 20 shy. Def a 5.7 Top Banana.
Thats his on the left, mine on the right.


If the hp was less than 400, but the tq was close to 450, I might have to say it was a dyno error, but its tough to say without seeing the graph. Anything is possible.

[TBYDaytona40]

I kinda wanted to see the sheet too. I rode in it and it floored me, but I was totally shocked to hear that number. Of course, Nate also didnt say what kind of dyno. He is also in Oregon with nice cool coast air as well. Your HP numbers are absolutely sick though, aint no doubt about it. IMHO yall are doing the most HP of any vendor here, and the numbers don't lie. Anyone looking to do this, 2500 is a very fair price for the massive gains you're picking up.

[TeeJizzle]

I may have to plan a trip to PPP. I wonder how far that is from Shreveport, LA. If a person comes to you with 2K, what can I leave with installed performance wise? I already have an exhaust, cai, superchips.

[oljustice]

I've already purchased DynaTechs with a Sidewinder so purchasing one of your cams isn't really an option for me at this point. I know the Sidewinder isnt your product but since its one of (if not the) most popular cams around here, I'd figure you may know this: Which stage heads offered by you guys would be best paired with a Sidewinder? Keep in mind that this is a daily driver.

[PPP-Tech]

I may have to plan a trip to PPP. I wonder how far that is from Shreveport, LA. If a person comes to you with 2K, what can I leave with installed performance wise? I already have an exhaust, cai, superchips.


I have a house in Shreveport that I am trying to sell right now. Its in Kings Pointe subdivision behind the university. If you find someone to buy that, I will buy you a set of heads/cam to put on the car and pay Kitlers automotive to install it, they are in Bossier City and did a cam/head install for me 2 years ago when I was living there.

I've already purchased DynaTechs with a Sidewinder so purchasing one of your cams isn't really an option for me at this point. I know the Sidewinder isnt your product but since its one of (if not the) most popular cams around here, I'd figure you may know this: Which stage heads offered by you guys would be best paired with a Sidewinder? Keep in mind that this is a daily driver.

I would stick with the stage 2 heads. The stage 3 heads are for big lift cams, the sidewinder is more of an all-purpose cam. It is nonetheless a great cam, but it wouldnt utilize the larger ports of the stage 3 heads.

[1157_Plum]

For 380-410rwhp
JBA Headers: $400
Free-Flowing Mufflers: $200
Diablo Predator: $349.99
Stage 3 Heads/Cam: $2495
6.1 Injectors: $399
Total: $3843.99

Alright, those numbers have me far more interested than the 392 and/or turbo I was going to talk to my wife about tomorrow ... Much more reasonable on the wallet!

How does that compare to the turbo? rwhp and tq? Is it an everyday driver or does that pretty much force it to be track-only?

1157_Plum

[PPP-Tech]

Here is an overlay of the stage 3 package vs the Turbo kit. Although they make about the same hp, the turbo makes a ton more tq and the more hp down low. It wouldnt be a close race. I give the turbo low 11's and the stage 3 setup mid 11's.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/turbo_stage3.jpg

[1157_Plum]

Here is an overlay of the stage 3 package vs the Turbo kit. Although they make about the same hp, the turbo makes a ton more tq and the more hp down low. It wouldnt be a close race. I give the turbo low 11's and the stage 3 setup mid 11's.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/turbo_stage3.jpg

Interesting numbers man ... you guys impress me at a level I just can't describe!

How many hours for a standard installation of that package and ... is it street drivable (daily driver)?

Thanks for the fast response, by the way ... much appreciated!

1157

[Gilgamesh]

Anyone thinking about going with one of these heads settups I cannot urge you enough. I was running a 426 stroker settup from PPP fed by a gsm blower on low boost for a while and was happy with the results as I was making about 560rwhp average. Then Jeremy told me about the stage 2 heads for the SRTs which is about the stage 3 R/T settups. We did the install, and to be honest I was hoping but not expecting to FEEL a big change. I was already making about 700crank HP and at that point I just didn't believe that a single mod, except more boost or Juice, would give me enough power to feel it at that point. Wrong. The port work on these heads is unbelievable. The ass dyno felt a massive improvement as did every other person that got in the car. If there is a true "feel it in your gut" improvement mod to be had these packages are it. BTw the install of these heads and Kooks LTs with high flow cats was enough to push me WELL over 600rwhp on the same boost and tune.

[rander]

Andy, so how do the Stage 2 heads compare to FRI street heads? I've wondered this for a while.

[PPP-Tech]

Andy, so how do the Stage 2 heads compare to FRI street heads? I've wondered this for a while.

How can I answer that question? I get along great with the guys at FRI right now and I really dont want to start pointing out differences as I will look like I am discrediting their work and I dont want to do that. I hope you understand, I am not dodging your question, but I do want to keep things civil. The only thing I can do is provide info on our heads and leave it at that.
Stage 2-------Stage 3
2.02/1.57-----2.05/1.60 valves
bronze--------bronze guides
manley--------manley valve springs, not hemi specific
machined------machined locks
locators-------locators custom and hardened
viton----------viton valve seals
titanium-------titanium retainers

As you can see, the difference from stage 2-3 is in the valves and there is a different port design. The stage 3's have larger runners and in order to accomodate the larger valves, the stage 3's have new valve seats.

[Gilgamesh]

Hey Andy is that for the 6.1 or simply the 5.7?? The 5.7 has 3 stages and the 6.1 has only 2 is that correct?

[PPP-Tech]

Hey Andy is that for the 6.1 or simply the 5.7?? The 5.7 has 3 stages and the 6.1 has only 2 is that correct?

Yes, we are workin on a stage 3 6.1 head, it will have the 1.625 exhaust valve instead of the 1.60, but the intake will stay the same.

[Gilgamesh]

OMFG!!! I'll have to upgrade my heads AGAIN!!!! DAMN YOU!!!

[1157_Plum]

For 380-410rwhp
JBA Headers: $400
Free-Flowing Mufflers: $200
Diablo Predator: $349.99
Stage 3 Heads/Cam: $2495
6.1 Injectors: $399
Total: $3843.99

Andy (?),

I spoke with Tim several days ago about numerous options and never heard back from him. The internet was down at the shop and my number/info probably got lost in the shuffle. I've now spoken with the 'ol ball and chain' and she has given me the a-ok as long as I keep things reasonable.

I really would like to know if the stage 3 package is street drivable. My car is/will be a daily driver and also is/will be used for a lot of traveling. Can I keep doing those things in the car if I apply this package? I want speed and power, but I cannot have a car that spins the tires at the tiniest touch or loses traction in the wet due to extreme power.

Simply put: would it still be a daily driver after getting this package?

I also need to know what the average installation time on this package would be. Would it be the same estimated 14 hours as the stage 2 or ...?

I'll try and give you guys a call tomorrow, but I am going to have a very hectic day. If Tim can find my #, please call me (in case I've gotten distracted).

Thanks a million,

Eli ( 1157_Plum )

[Gilgamesh]

Honestly man I use mine as a daily driver with no problems, you should be fine. The only thing that might get annoying would be if you get an extremely aggressive cam profile or an exhaust with alot of drone.

[PPP-Tech]

Our latest Stage 3 5.7L.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/th_CIMG9970.jpg (http://s182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/?action=view&current=CIMG9970.flv)

[KStryker]

Dang, I so am about to see if any company will give me a credit card with 5k and go ahead and get the stage 3 package :D

[PPP-Tech]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/th_CIMG9975.jpg (http://s182.photobucket.com/albums/x281/PPP-Tech/?action=view&current=CIMG9975.flv)

[RedRaider]

That is one mean sounding R/T. Do you have any videos of the Stage 1 and Stage 2 setups?

[alex3dworld]

Guys why you dont create your own PPP Mastercard?
you will get double of clients, lot of people (like me) dont have 4k to pay it full in cash but i dont care to pay $200 a month till a fully pay it.
in my case to go for a stage 3 is around $3k, i have already the predator and Mopar headers.
you don't have any branch in florida?

[BeeNaKID16]

Guys why you dont create your own PPP Mastercard?
you will get double of clients, lot of people (like me) dont have 4k to pay it full in cash but i dont care to pay $200 a month till a fully pay it.
in my case to go for a stage 3 is around $3k, i have already the predator and Mopar headers.
you don't have any branch in florida?

i like what this guy said.

[PPP-Tech]

we have an authorized installer in Fort Meyers, FL.

[alex3dworld]

yea man, let also pour people to have heads and cams! we also pay in time.

[alex3dworld]

website?
shop address?
anyone in the forum with any satage done there in fort meyers?

[mejia11]

Does this basically rejuvenate your engine if I already have 36,000 miles or does it not do anything for existing motor parts?

[PPP-Tech]

Does this basically rejuvenate your engine if I already have 36,000 miles or does it not do anything for existing motor parts?


No, the bottom end of the engine is what would rejuvenate the motor. The top end helps, but not much.

[km87]

Does Stage 3 work w/ the AWD, how much time does it take for the installiation and what will be the final cost?

[Sublime1452]

Have you guys heard if the stage 3 setup will pass a smog test? I am from California and thats my major issue. I know I will not pass a visual but I can figure that out when it comes but if I can pass it thats all I need to know. - Jared

[PPP-Tech]

Have you guys heard if the stage 3 setup will pass a smog test? I am from California and thats my major issue. I know I will not pass a visual but I can figure that out when it comes but if I can pass it thats all I need to know. - Jared


Why would you not pass the visual inspection? They cant see the cam or the heads. As for our Stage 3 setup, we do not have one. We have Stage 3 heads and we have 3 different cams, but they are not divided into stages. You can buy the Stage 3 heads and the Road Warrior cam and you will pass emissions. I am not sure about the track and the race cams.

[Sublime1452]

Well I guess I was assuming you were using long tube headers and I know those do not pass visual. As far as the stage 3 package I was referring to the information on the first page I believe it was were there was a breakdown. Jared

[PPP-Tech]

Well I guess I was assuming you were using long tube headers and I know those do not pass visual. As far as the stage 3 package I was referring to the information on the first page I believe it was were there was a breakdown. Jared

It only says stage 3 heads. We dont sell packages, but more so individual parts. Most guys already have headers before they consider heads/cam. We do combo discounts, but it is different for every person as most guys want a different cam.