ChargerForums Needs the Help of EVERY Member...

[HEMEEE]

... to keep peace and harmony in the family!

I'm just going to get right to the point:

The post whoring for post counts has gotten out of control and is generating many complaints from the members who lean more toward the Charger topics end of things, which is after all, the purpose for which this forum was originally founded. At the same time, we know some of you have built great fun friendships and enjoy the opportunity to just talk about "stuff" with some redeeming value, post counts not included. We don't want to interfere with that either, so we came up with a solution that we hope will work for everyone, but we need everyone to cooperate for this compromise to work. When lurkers or searchers look for a Charger forum and resource, we want to be proud of what we have to offer and that can't happen if the majority of current threads listed are silly post count competitions, "only post here if..." threads, etc. You get the picture.

-I will build a new sub-forum in the Off Topic section later tonight-
The new sub-forum section will be dedicated to small talk, fun, and social chit chat. Post counts will NOT accrue in that section so as to discourage pointless threads about nothing but post counts. Currently active threads will be moved to the new section ASAP and some will be closed if they don't fit the new criteria

We ask that new threads in the social sub-forum be kept to a bare minimum so as not to overrun the Active Topics list. The goal is to keep a few good fun discussions running vs. a multitude of nonsense pointless threads. This will keep the Active Topics list less cluttered and will allow the social butterflies and the gearheads to co-exist amicably so all will be right with the world again!
The new section will be a work in progress and guidelines will be posted and amended as needed. In the meantime, staff will determine what is acceptable or unacceptable. If the post whoring continues unchecked, we will remove ALL post counts in OT and could escalate that to remove all post counts forum-wide. Please don't let it get to that.
The main Off Topic section will be off limits to social threads and will be for legitimate Off Topic, non-Charger threads only. Post counts will still accrue in that section. Social threads posted here will be moved, the OP will be warned once, and repeat offenders will be suspended or banned.You are welcome to share your thoughts in this thread, but for the sake of that discussion please know in advance that adding a chat room is NOT an option. We have had them on other sites with nothing but problems. For anyone wanting to have real time discussion, there is a place to list your IM address in your profile and it's a great alternative.


We are counting on each of you to do your part to make this happen...
Thanks, in advance for your assistance and cooperation with this project so EVERYONE gets what they want and need from their forum experience with us!

[HKLEVI]

I will be interested in seeing the "rules" defining what is allowed in the main off topic and what belongs in the off off topic. PLEASE be specific so we don't post in the main and wind up getting spanked. I think I know what would continue to be allowed, but a set of posted rules is always valuable for reference.

Thanks Linda!

[Green_Manalishi]

Fantastic. It's about time. :)
(Although I'm in favor of removing post counts entirely...)

[PaCharger]

Good stuff mods...hope this helps.
One Q though - is this in the right forum? :D

....runs and hides...

[HemiPowered5700]

Why don't you just create a Chat program...every other car forum I am on has one....just a thought.

[HemiPowered5700]

Good stuff mods...hope this helps.
One Q though - is this in the right forum? :D

....runs and hides...

LOL....I'll hold him Hemeee!!!

[HEMEEE]

Perfect, I'll get a feather!

[KStryker]

Fantastic. It's about time. :)
(Although I'm in favor of removing post counts entirely...)

x2

[SublimeDaytona268]

I like having the post counts because it really shows who is contributing to the site. I would tend to trust a guy's opinion who has 2,000 posts over a guy who has only 20. Also, it lets you know if you're dealing with a newbie.

However, there is a good handful of people out there who spend there entire time on here in off-topic, thus getting their post count to rise astronomically. Im all for an off-topic thread where people can chit chat about whatever they want, but those shouldnt count towards their post count. Thats all Im sayin...

-Pat

[HEMEEE]

Why don't you just create a Chat program...every other car forum I am on has one....just a thought.Darn, I spent all that time writing my post and somebody didn't read it! :whistle: ;)

[HemiChemi]

:clap:

I like to jest and have fun with the best of 'em (err... worst of 'em? :nervous s ), but it has been getting out of hand lately with all the posting JUST for the sake of post-count padding.


I also wouldn't care a bit if post counts disappeared.


Now, while we're in fix-it mode, can we do anything about Umbra's dorkiness? :smoke:

[HEMEEE]

I like having the post counts because it really shows who is contributing to the site. I would tend to trust a guy's opinion who has 2,000 posts over a guy who has only 20. Also, it lets you know if you're dealing with a newbie.

However, there is a good handful of people out there who spend there entire time on here in off-topic, thus getting their post count to rise astronomically. Im all for an off-topic thread where people can chit chat about whatever they want, but those shouldnt count towards their post count. Thats all Im sayin...

-Pat
That's what we're sayin' too!
I do believe there is some value in post counts as well, unfortunately post whoring devalues that and that's where we are at this point. We hope not to have to remove them completely and we think allowing a place to shoot the breeze w/o building post counts will help put things back in their proper perspective.

[PaCharger]

:clap:
Now, while we're in fix-it mode, can we do anything about Umbra's dorkiness? :smoke:

Good point...why stop there, if Umbra can get fixed, maybe CC can too :D

oh wait...what kid of fixed did you mean Tom?

[HEMEEE]

:clap:

I like to jest and have fun with the best of 'em (err... worst of 'em? :nervous s ), but it has been getting out of hand lately with all the posting JUST for the sake of post-count padding.


I also wouldn't care a bit if post counts disappeared.


Now, while we're in fix-it mode, can we do anything about Umbra's dorkiness? :smoke:Dang it, I'm an Admin, not a flippin' miracle worker!!

Seriously HC, and everybody else, thanks for your support!

[KillaBee]

You are welcome to share your thoughts in this thread, but for the sake of that discussion please know in advance that adding a chat room is NOT an option. We have had them on other sites with nothing but problems.

No chat room, No post count, No bull....My kind of place. If only we could live in a world with no Mustangs.

[elcobra44]

I would think that a reputation points system would add more valvue and less clutter to threads..

[HemiChemi]

Good point...why stop there, if Umbra can get fixed, maybe CC can too :D

oh wait...what kid of fixed did you mean Tom?

I'll take anything! :laugh:



Dang it, I'm an Admin, not a flippin' miracle worker!!



I didn't hurt to ask... :lol:



:cry:

[HEMEEE]

I would think that a reputation points system would add more valvue and less clutter to threads..Unfortunately, we've all seen how that system is abused as well. If we end up having to remove all post counts we could try a seniority badging system, which we've used elsewhere successfully. Frankly, from the supportive responses so far, I don't think post counts are in jeopardy!! :)

[CDJDMRJE]

Thanks I like the active topics feature.

[goMANgo259]

thank you so much for this. i have never complained about poho's, but lately i hardly even post on here.

i use to look forward to getting on here to learn about chargers, and lately on the active topics page there will only be like 4 threads that i'm even interested in. a few months ago there would have been like 15 threads i was interested in.

[bigjim.srt-8]

I also would like to see the Off-topic threads removed from the active threads so I can scan for car related threads.
Thanks for making a great forum even better!

[mywhitecharger]

I could not agree more. I spend a good bit of time on a different forum (non-car related) and it's got some pretty strict rules.

No chatting in the for sale threads, etc. Infractions are given publicly and consistently. We are able to have meaningful conversations about the subject that brings us together, yet still have fun.

There is also a "chat" section like you are doing here and it works well.

Thank for doing this.

I also agree with Bigjim - I like hitting 'New Posts' to see what's going on and half of it is junk about God knows what.

[mnunes]

Sounds like a great idea, Linda. Thanks!


Maybe we can pool our money to come up with a fix for the dorkiness......

[HEMEEE]

I also would like to see the Off-topic threads removed from the active threads so I can scan for car related threads.
Thanks for making a great forum even better!Thanks for the encouragement, we're trying!
Your idea was our first idea as well, however it sets up some problems with the software that I was unaware of so it was nixed by the ultimate powers that be. We hope the alternative we came up with will be a good fix!
(crosses fingers)

[ChargerSXT]

I like the idea HEMEEE. Bravo!!

Just to clarify...this new forum will be where we go to BS about nothing in particular, pick on ChargerChick and metgo...basically, to PoHo. I've met some really great people on here from all over the U.S., and being able to chat with them like you would with your buddies down at the bar, is a great thing. Unfortunately, though, it can get out of hand...and I'll be the first on to admit that I am guilty of it myself. I just want to make sure I understand the rules because I don't want to get in trouble for having my PoHo fun where I'm not supposed to. :D

I could really care less about my post count. You could zero it out if you really wanted to. I've just enjoyed my post count "rivalry" with my friend soccerbachelor.

Removing the OT threads from the active threads list would also be good so that newcomers can see what this forum is truly about...and can be brought over to the "dark side" later. :D [EDIT: Disregard my last...I just saw where you said you weren't about to do that. Sorry...I missed that the first time through.]

[ChargerSXT]

Now, while we're in fix-it mode, can we do anything about Umbra's dorkiness? :smoke:

HEMEEE,

Can you also make HC less evil? Chemistry is just pure evil. :D

[SublimeInMA]

Fixing umbra or HC is just impossible. She's only human and just look at the starting product!

HEMEEE great addition to the Forums. I think all will agree there was no intent to censor anyone or what they posted, just to keep the board cleaner for present and future members to enjoy. Hope this new section works.

Good work to all involved. :clap:
Tom

[a14umbra]

Fixing umbra or HC is just impossible. She's only human and just look at the starting product!

Tom

Huh?:confused:







:eek:Hey!

[Junior]

Good call Linda!

Thank you.

I rarely bother here anymore, and this is the main reason why. I hope that changes, because I do like this forum, but the nonsense is staggering.

[HemiPowered5700]

Darn, I spent all that time writing my post and somebody didn't read it! :whistle: ;)

I read it....just I can't agree with that fully. I have never seen a problem with them, but your the boss!

I know nothing, I just post here...:smoke: :lol:

[DaBlackPearl]

I was happy to see this post when I logged in tonight. I am a new user and was very impressed with the topics and the help when I recently joined but lately totally senseless and silly threads have made me not want to log on the last couple of days. Some of the members are quite frankly rude at times. I think there is a way to let someone know about something without being an a$$ about it. I am not wining just thought I would give my .02
THANK YOU & I hope this works like we all want it to so we can all enjoy this great site.

[TeeJizzle]

!!!Amen!!! For, the record, I didn't complain on anyone, but I will say there is a lot of good info burried in the forum if you can just get past these post whore threads, and if we cleaned all that up, it can be easily found in the search feature. So I applaud these changes!

[TBYDaytona40]

SO where is the mystery off off topic? Did I miss it? Was I banned from it? :(
Frankly, I am as a big a poho as any at times. Wont hurt my feelings at all. It also seems that if it was actually a link to a seperate forum, then nothing in it would show up in a new posts search, cuz it would be over there in a different forum. :D

[a14umbra]

Keep in mind that HEMEEE is west coast. There's still plenty of "later tonight" left out there.

[TBYDaytona40]

I am West Coast as well. But I am running out of later tonight and must sleep soon. No running amuck for me. Lots of time this weekend though!

[mmaloy]

There's the kick.....................it's away.............RIGHT THROUGH THE UPRIGHTS!! SCORE!!!

Mods=7, Arguable Rebuttal's= ZERO!!!

:clap:

HEMEEE, UMBRA,GLHS,Blarian.............congrats! :D

[mtcraigco]

Thanks, I completely abandoned this forum for almost a year due to the BS threads. They need their own place and to NOT show up in active post counts, period.

[FLEX]

Looking forward to a "New & Improved" Charger Forums. :)

-=FLEX=-

[optimus124]

a very logical move. Thanks

[HemiChemi]

HEMEEE,

Can you also make HC less evil? Chemistry is just pure evil. :D
No, it's NOT! :smoke:





:twisted:

[Fuel 100]

Bravo. I love this forum, but things were getting out of hand.

[Fuel 100]

Damn, I lost a lot of posts. :lol:

[jarpod]

I could not agree more! I believe that anyone with 5000 or more posts should be banned from this site.... take that "arfur" for example.... he is the devil!
nah just kidding

good move though! to be honest I always got my charger knowledge somewhere else and just came here to chit chat...

I also have noticed that lately most of the members ignore my posts.... I figured out that many of you added me to their ignore list which hurts my feelings a lot.... :cry:

Rants over... now I wonder... Where in the WWW is Metgo and Charlie?
those pohos are hiding somewhere!

[StoneWhite/Boise]

I think this will work out great, as some have admitted, I too post ho it up to have fun with members here however can see that it does clog up the "real" posts. I have learned a lot from members here and always (well almost always) get great feedback and advise when I have questions. Good luck to you in getting things changed up!!!

[Crazy Charger SRT-8]

thank you for this. While I add to the random topics from time to time. I don't like that 10 or 15 (at times) of the top 20 are some random poho thread. It gets way too cluttered and you sometimes feel you cant find useful information. I hope till will return it to how it once was. I think this is a good start.

[GB49]

I didn't realize this was becoming a problem. I browse what's of interest to me, ignore the other junk, read what I need to know and hit the road.

I'm all for structure, organization and moderating just as long as this site does not turn into a Stanford prison experiment, so to speak.

-GB

[a14umbra]

I didn't realize this was becoming a problem. I browse what's of interest to me, ignore the other junk, read what I need to know and hit the road.

I'm all for structure, organization and moderating just as long as this site does not turn into a Stanford prison experiment, so to speak.

-GB

He knows our plan.:ninja:


Seriously, that concern is exactly what took so long for us to impliment this solution. We didn't want to cause one problem by fixing another.

[epoch]

This is way, way overdue. Maybe now I can start coming back to these forums.

I'm one of the people (perhaps the few) that don't browse specific forums, but rather, hit the "New posts" link, and yes, the amount of inane chattering (no offense) really hosed up the usability of this website for me for well over a year.

Too bad posting in the new forum didn't decrement your post count like it does in FYAD.

[AB Charger]

You know... it is funny. I booked on the other day and thought about exactly what you mentioned. I admit that I have, on occasion, jumped into threads like that but mainly because of my demented sense of humour. Like other posters here, I generally look around for specific topics of interest to me and skirt around the other stuff. So I am glad you have collectively decided to come up with a viable solution that protects the integrity of this site. Kudos to you all....

[NYT]

i agree with epoch though i would have knocked all the silly ******* that post 30+ times a day in these post count threads back to 0.

its called tough love people, its like some of you have never been on an internet forum before so you feel the need to constantly spam it.

[1Badass R/T]

Thank you !!

The post whoring has gotten out of control. This new addition should make the forum a better place. Trying to find good information was getting very difficult to sort threw all the "crap" that was filling the forum.

Again... Thank you

[Green_Manalishi]

Is there any way to keep the Charger Lounge posts from showing up in a "New Posts" query? I'm on 2 to 3 times daily and still wade through 300+ posts each login.

[SublimeInMA]

Is there any way to keep the Charger Lounge posts from showing up in a "New Posts" query? I'm on 2 to 3 times daily and still wade through 300+ posts each login.

They tried but "Higher Powers" above HEMEEE said not possible. They are working on other ideas according to her post about the Chat Lounge creation.

Now if they can fine tune the search engine for the forums, life would be even better! Not being greedy just offering another suggestion

Tom

[bpd1151]

I concur wholeheartedly! It's cool to have the mods split this into an entirely new section (for those ppl who do nothing but post just for the hell of it and up their post #'s)

I agree with the mods that the main purpose of the forums (or any automotive related forums) is to PRIMARILY DISCUSS THE INTRACACIES OF THE CAR..... not to be a bunch a post ho's!

I compliment the mods on keeping everyone's thoughts in mind when splitting this. It allows for some vital, important discussion on the Chargers, while still allowing an area where ppl can just chit chat and ramble on about anything that they desire. Way to go admin/mods :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[CHERRY]

HEMEE,

Are we ever going to be able to get more than 100 PM's ?
What about becoming a Supporting Member like they do in "other forums"
I do that now in two other sites and would be willing to do so here.

Can you make that happen ???

Thanks
Chuck

[PaCharger]

The chat lounge exclusion would not even be necessary if we could keep to a couple/three threads. There in lies the rub. When most of the chatter was in the don't delete thread, it was easily avoidable...in fact I generally had to search for it unless it was late at night or very active.

When we have 30 Threads in the chat lounge, and folks still feel the need and want to chat in all 30 inside of 15 minutes....well, we solve the count issue, but we still have a user display issue.

I already got spanked for my comment once today. I'm done harping on it...but I stopped dropping by for about 7 months once...because this stopped being a car forum and became a silly posting playground.

Get IM, get a single thread, get a blowup toy.... :D

[sound&security]

WHY DO I HAVE THIS STRANGE FEELING LINDA IS LOOKING AT ME WHEN SHE POSTED THIS??? hehe.

[ChargerChick]

Good point...why stop there, if Umbra can get fixed, maybe CC can too :D



Dude, you are so askin' for it. It's time for a smackdown. http://th6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/prinnypublic/smilies/th_hit.gif (http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi6.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2F y246%2Fprinnypublic%2Fsmilies%2Fhit.gif&searchTerm=thwack&pageOffset=6)

Linda, Mike, all the mods who came up with this...I have but two words.

Thank you. :)

[Hemi 06]

Yea im glad this is getting taken care of. I just seems like this site is heading down hill fast and that its being taken over by high schoolers who's dad's buy them a charger for turning 16. It now seems like there are other sites are are getting better then this one. I just hope that it changes, cause I did meet a lot of great people from this site, and I hope to meet more in the near future.

[HKLEVI]

Damn, I lost a lot of posts. :lol:

Cut in half, didn't realize I was that bad...

Thanks CF staff. I think removing the "competition" factor will help clean things up. To bad it had to come to this, compared to the glory days of Arfur, HC, and Umbra going at it.

[a14umbra]

Cut in half, didn't realize I was that bad...

Thanks CF staff. I think removing the "competition" factor will help clean things up. To bad it had to come to this, compared to the glory days of Arfur, HC, and Umbra going at it.

Yeah, but most of us rarely created Off-Topic threads. It wasn't about excessive posting. It was about excessive posting in excessive threads.;)

[wickedchargerrt]

I guess i dont understand why the people that are complaining about the active topics menu being cluttered dont just click forums and go whereever anyway. Is it much harder to click forums tab, as opposed to active topics? my finger doesnt hurt anymore one way or the other but thats just me

[a14umbra]

I guess i dont understand why the people that are complaining about the active topics menu being cluttered dont just click forums and go whereever anyway. Is it much harder to click forums tab, as opposed to active topics? my finger doesnt hurt anymore one way or the other but thats just me

It's easier to "catch up" in the New Posts view. If it wasn't, the view wouldn't exsist.

[wickedchargerrt]

It's easier to "catch up" in the New Posts view. If it wasn't, the view wouldn't exsist.

It is easier, no complaints there. It just seems like there is excessive :cry: about clutter on a particular page. Why not just go somewhere else? Its like getting ticked cause something you dont like is on tv. Do people sit there screaming at the screen or change the channel? or at least what makes more sense?

[a14umbra]

It is easier, no complaints there. It just seems like there is excessive :cry: about clutter on a particular page. Why not just go somewhere else? Its like getting ticked cause something you dont like is on tv. Do people sit there screaming at the screen or change the channel? or at least what makes more sense?

But it's NOT like that. Most people use either the New Posts page or Active Topics page as their gateway into the site. Heck, New Posts is what I have bookmarked. If they are both cluttered, there is no other consolidated option. It's not about less clicks, it's about organization of information.

[wickedchargerrt]

yes but most people come on here with a purpose. not everyone comes on to go to every section equally. You have your techys, your off topicers, your stereo people. Very few people i think go to every single section so just cause a subject is active doesnt mean that people are going there when they come on. I've had my hand in many areas of the automotive field so i am one of the few that does but i think most people come on , click forum, and go to their respected area that they care about. I dont see how it will clean up active cause it's just another area thats active now. i'm not complaining about this seriously , at least not on this thread, i just dont see how clutter will be changed any by moving things to section c from section b. then you'll just have two sections of the same clogging up active. I dunno. Let's put it on mythbusters

[a14umbra]

yes but most people come on here with a purpose. not everyone comes on to go to every section equally. You have your techys, your off topicers, your stereo people. Very few people i think go to every single section so just cause a subject is active doesnt mean that people are going there when they come on. I've had my hand in many areas of the automotive field so i am one of the few that does but i think most people come on , click forum, and go to their respected area that they care about. I dont see how it will clean up active cause it's just another area thats active now. i'm not complaining about this seriously , at least not on this thread, i just dont see how clutter will be changed any by moving things to section c from section b. then you'll just have two sections of the same clogging up active. I dunno. Let's put it on mythbusters

I disagree.

[wickedchargerrt]

I disagree.

yea, good point :grin:

[a14umbra]

yea, good point :grin:

Thank you.:smoke:

[Crazy Charger SRT-8]

yes but most people come on here with a purpose. not everyone comes on to go to every section equally. You have your techys, your off topicers, your stereo people. Very few people i think go to every single section so just cause a subject is active doesnt mean that people are going there when they come on. I've had my hand in many areas of the automotive field so i am one of the few that does but i think most people come on , click forum, and go to their respected area that they care about. I dont see how it will clean up active cause it's just another area thats active now. i'm not complaining about this seriously , at least not on this thread, i just dont see how clutter will be changed any by moving things to section c from section b. then you'll just have two sections of the same clogging up active. I dunno. Let's put it on mythbusters

while I agree with you on some points I disagree with others.

I come on to "surf" all areas of CF as I may pick up a neat fact or a useful mod that I wouldn't find if I only went to say SRT forums and stayed there. I think a lot of people come on here and do the same thing.

I do agree with you that moving the poho threads from one area to another will, in theory, not clean up the active topics. But, I do think that making the poho threads no longer add to post count may just keep the mass amount of topics to a limit in the future. Hopefully it will in essence clean up the active topics with more relevant threads to what the forum is really about... Chargers.

[a14umbra]

EXACTLY!

A new thread was started in "the lounge" about this. We've been having great converstions and the other threads aren't being posted in as much.

[undertaker]

Yeah!!!!:grin:

[HKLEVI]

OK, now I feel a bit better. I was really thinking I was a major PoHo to loose as many posts as I did, but I see that the word association and TPBM threads got moved too, and I had a few in them. Oh well....

[GoManGo3047]

Right on man

[wickedchargerrt]

while I agree with you on some points I disagree with others.

I come on to "surf" all areas of CF as I may pick up a neat fact or a useful mod that I wouldn't find if I only went to say SRT forums and stayed there. I think a lot of people come on here and do the same thing.

I do agree with you that moving the poho threads from one area to another will, in theory, not clean up the active topics. But, I do think that making the poho threads no longer add to post count may just keep the mass amount of topics to a limit in the future. Hopefully it will in essence clean up the active topics with more relevant threads to what the forum is really about... Chargers.

there certainly are people that did get post count crazy and that was their main goal in life. Thats agreed. However i think something could have been done about those 4-5 members as opposed to what happened. I dunno. It was quite obvious we didnt need 100 poho threads, but lets be serious about the politics too. forums are funded by advertisers and vendors. More activity on one site will bring more vendors and sponsors. If i owned my own company i'd much rather be on here with 18k in members and 400 average people on every minute of the day than somewhere with no activity, whether topic related or not. oh well , its said and done, next subject

[HKLEVI]

^^

Got any gum?

[wickedchargerrt]

no. i'm getting a endoscopy next week:grin: Anyways no off subject for me.

[a14umbra]

no. i'm getting a endoscopy next week:grin: Anyways no off subject for me.

Ouch!

[wickedchargerrt]

Ouch!

I know i'm scared sh**less. Putting me out , shoving a tube down my throat then a camera. i dont want to hijack so thats it for my story. :cry: I dont think we have a surgery thread anywhere

[mtcraigco]

there certainly are people that did get post count crazy and that was their main goal in life. Thats agreed. However i think something could have been done about those 4-5 members as opposed to what happened. I dunno. It was quite obvious we didnt need 100 poho threads, but lets be serious about the politics too. forums are funded by advertisers and vendors. More activity on one site will bring more vendors and sponsors. If i owned my own company i'd much rather be on here with 18k in members and 400 average people on every minute of the day than somewhere with no activity, whether topic related or not. oh well , its said and done, next subject


As an owner of a small business that does 70% of it's business ($282k gross sales for last year) through the web and word of mouth (read forums) I can speak to that from experience.

RELEVANT traffic will draw advertisers, not junk threads. This forum has made the correct decision, both for their financial interests and the best interests of those who come here for information, not po-ho-ing.

I'd rather spend twice as much $ advertising on a 5000 hit a day forum with focused traffic than 1/2 as much on a 25,000 hit a day forum with general traffic.

[a14umbra]

I know i'm scared sh**less. Putting me out , shoving a tube down my throat then a camera. i dont want to hijack so thats it for my story. :cry: I dont think we have a surgery thread anywhere

If you've never had it done before, don't worry. I was terrified when I had one. I have this fear of anistesia (sp?). The nurse said to me "You're gonna love it. It's like a power nap."
She was absolutely right. I was upset when he said I didn't have to come back. It was the best 20 minutes sleep I ever had. I could hear things, but had no clue what was going on. Couldn't feel a thing.

[Crazy Charger SRT-8]

I know i'm scared sh**less. Putting me out , shoving a tube down my throat then a camera. i dont want to hijack so thats it for my story. :cry: I dont think we have a surgery thread anywhere

no need to be scared :grin: as a nurse, I know they will give you a nice IV ****tail (bah dumb filter) and before you know it they will be telling you you did great and its all over.

[wickedchargerrt]

As an owner of a small business that does 70% of it's business ($282k gross sales for last year) through the web and word of mouth (read forums) I can speak to that from experience.

RELEVANT traffic will draw advertisers, not junk threads. This forum has made the correct decision, both for their financial interests and the best interests of those who come here for information, not po-ho-ing.

I'd rather spend twice as much $ advertising on a 5000 hit a day forum with focused traffic than 1/2 as much on a 25,000 hit a day forum with general traffic.

My opinion as a member of the forum who knows a good handful of members outside of the forum, i would think the opposite. there are several people on here with limited car knowledge. they come on to talk to others and buy things for their cars. They dont venture into the other threads much because maybe doing the work themselves isnt something they tend to do. I know many members on here who are here for the comrodery (spelling??) more than anything, but all of them love chargers and buying things for them. People are still gonna look at the vendor sites and use them whether they leave off topic or not. They came here for the interest in the car and ended up making friendships along the way. They will look at your sites and then its up to your sites from that point on, but where they post and the manor they post i doubt has little to do with it. You saying a 18 year old who plays in off topic for 8 hours a day is less willing to buy a product from you then someone who spends 15 min in track talk each day? ? ?

[PaCharger]

no. i'm getting a endoscopy next week:grin: Anyways no off subject for me.

i've had 4...not too bad...except the one I woke up during...don't ask. Won't happen to you.

Your throat will feel scratched, you chest diff. No biggy...
Good luck and Good Health.

[wickedchargerrt]

i've had 4...not too bad...except the one I woke up during...don't ask. Won't happen to you.

Your throat will feel scratched, you chest diff. No biggy...
Good luck and Good Health.



see???? you know how many people i've been telling i'm scared i'm gonna wake up during and everyone says "no that wont happen" THANK YOU for helpin me prove them wrong. Now i'm definetely not going. :dead: :dead:

[a14umbra]

see???? you know how many people i've been telling i'm scared i'm gonna wake up during and everyone says "no that wont happen" THANK YOU for helpin me prove them wrong. Now i'm definetely not going. :dead: :dead:

:no:

Don't worry about it. You'll be fine.


And stop listening to PACharger. He's a fuse puller.

[PaCharger]

:no:

Don't worry about it. You'll be fine.


And stop listening to PACharger. He's a fuse puller.

Just hit report and ekool comes to kick your arse right?

[TBYDaytona40]

Speaking of pulling fuses.....
I post ho, BUT, I advertise vendors, and have spent EASILY 3K with vendors since August. I aint loaded. Just a blue collar guy with a family income under 90K tryin to have a good time. I am not upset about the move. I would be MORE upset if mods enforced the no po ho rule. I think this was a fine compromise. I did for quite a while get caught up in the po ho post count madness. I healed some once it was cam time. My madness has abated to a degree. I am sure once my car is tuned, and I get used to the power, the moditis will kick in hard core again, and if I cant afford to mod, I will poho. Sorry
lol

[ChargerChick]

Thanks for the warning. :knockout:

[BlkOnBlkSXT]

I like having the post counts because it really shows who is contributing to the site. I would tend to trust a guy's opinion who has 2,000 posts over a guy who has only 20. Also, it lets you know if you're dealing with a newbie.

However, there is a good handful of people out there who spend there entire time on here in off-topic, thus getting their post count to rise astronomically. Im all for an off-topic thread where people can chit chat about whatever they want, but those shouldnt count towards their post count. Thats all Im sayin...

-Pat


I agree with most of what Pat said though some of the people who PoHo actually know a lot about Chargers and help out in the relevant threads (TBY for example).

I do not use the Active topic feature and go to the sections that interest me so I am not bothered by some of the meaningless posts since I just avoid those threads most of the time.

I think the General Charger Discussion section also can get out of hand sometimes with talk about other cars from people who come on here that do not even own Chargers. That is not as much as a problem now as it was say 6 months ago though. It also seems to be a catch all for topics that should go into other sections like asking about exterior related topics in there instead of the Exterior section of the forum.

I am not saying I have a problem with people that do not own a Charger being members but I do not think that they should post topics specifically about other cars in the General Charger area and should be directed to the Off-Topic section.

[SouthNJCharger]

As an owner of a small business that does 70% of it's business ($282k gross sales for last year) through the web and word of mouth (read forums) I can speak to that from experience.

RELEVANT traffic will draw advertisers, not junk threads. This forum has made the correct decision, both for their financial interests and the best interests of those who come here for information, not po-ho-ing.

I'd rather spend twice as much $ advertising on a 5000 hit a day forum with focused traffic than 1/2 as much on a 25,000 hit a day forum with general traffic.

Bingo! Hit that one right on the head.

[metgo]

I agree with most of what Pat said though some of the people who PoHo actually know a lot about Chargers and help out in the relevant threads (TBY for example).


I'm very knowledgeable about these cars and I try to help out people when ever I can. In fact, in a lot of these so called "Poho Threads" We talk about our chargers a lot. So these threads aren't as pointless as many of you may think.

Most of the pohoing that occurs, happens very late at night when no one is on anyways. It's not all about post counts either. When you get off work at 2AM like I do and everyone is sleeping, you gotta do something to pass the time :grin:

I think this whole thing was blow way out of proportion, but if this is what the mods had to do to fix the "so called problem", then so be it. :smoke:

[CHERRY]

I for one have NO idea as to what a POHO is ?

Most of my posts have something good to say not idle chatter.

I am only averaging 2.2 posts per day, which is not huge by any means.

But it would be a great benefit to have like 750 pm's capabilities.


Chuck

[metgo]

I for one have NO idea as to what a POHO is ?

Most of my posts have something good to say not idle chatter.

I am only averaging 2.2 posts per day, which is not huge by any means.

But it would be a great benefit to have like 750 pm's capabilities.


Chuck

LMAO :D

[MrMorgan]

Hoo-ray! Active topics may soon be useful again!

Chuck:
POHO = Post wHore

[CHERRY]

Hoo-ray! Active topics may soon be useful again!

Chuck:
POHO = Post wHore

OOOOOooooooooo thanks, now I know

:grin:

[metgo]

Hoo-ray! Active topics may soon be useful again!

Chuck:
POHO = Post wHore

The new section still shows up in active topics :smoke:

[DarthCharger]

Place all of the "games" threads in the off topics section. Need to find a means of getting folks to search threads before they post as there are so many redundant threads.

[HEMEEE]

Place all of the "games" threads in the off topics section. Need to find a means of getting folks to search threads before they post as there are so many redundant threads.We're moving and/or closing them as we find them, but it's time-consuming and we have to ask everyone to be patient; it didn't build up to this overnight and won't be an overnight fix.

If you want to put together a list of links to threads you feel need to be moved, feel free to PM it to me and I'll review it ASAP.

As for the search issue... it's a never-ending one on every forum, unfortunately.

[mtcraigco]

As for the search issue... it's a never-ending one on every forum, unfortunately.

What exhaust should I use on my car? I want it to sound bitchin' and cost less than $100?

Also what cam is THE best?

(covers head and runs zigzagging across the room):nervous s

[a14umbra]

What exhaust should I use on my car? I want it to sound bitchin' and cost less than $100?

Also what cam is THE best?

(covers head and runs zigzagging across the room):nervous s

Serpentine!!! Serpentine!!!

[wickedchargerrt]

What exhaust should I use on my car? I want it to sound bitchin' and cost less than $100?

Also what cam is THE best?

(covers head and runs zigzagging across the room):nervous s

Just pull fuse 17, and upgrade to a 30 amp

[a14umbra]

Just pull fuse 17, and upgrade to a 30 amp

I love when you give that inside technical info.

[TBYDaytona40]

I thought you were supposed to disconnect the battery.... :dead:

[wickedchargerrt]

I love when you give that inside technical info.

I just want people to know the facts. I dont like them believing some of the rubbish the guys on this forum like to preach. :grin:

[FromZ28toChargerRT]

THANK YOU. There is a lot of funny stuff on here which is great, but it is annoying to see the newest topics listed on the main page all relate to something, well, generally non-charger related. I don't care about post numbers myself, but I do care about charger info.
....and this is a great place for info!

[PaCharger]

What exhaust should I use on my car? I want it to sound bitchin' and cost less than $100?

Also what cam is THE best?

(covers head and runs zigzagging across the room):nervous s

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

[jackiert]

THANK YOU. There is a lot of funny stuff on here which is great, but it is annoying to see the newest topics listed on the main page all relate to something, well, generally non-charger related. I don't care about post numbers myself, but I do care about charger info.
....and this is a great place for info!

Agreed. Thanks chargerforums!

[Camsdad]

I could care less about post counts. I travel alot and see some of the members cars on here. I put a post in the General Discussion forum and get Charlie and METGO playing internet cops make personal attacks, hijack the thread, mention nothing about Chargers but my post gets locked.

I know I'm just a person on here of many. I'm one who cares less about popularity or other crap like that but to have to deal with people like Charlie and Metgo forget it. I've been a member since July and if cared about post counts and popularity I'd have alot more posts than I do now!!!

I've posted less than 20 times in over 8 months and looked at Charlie, he has posted 25 times just today. Dude give me a break!!!

[a14umbra]

I could care less about post counts. I travel alot and see some of the members cars on here. I put a post in the General Discussion forum and get Charlie and METGO playing internet cops make personal attacks, hijack the thread, mention nothing about Chargers but my post gets locked.

I know I'm just a person on here of many. I'm one who cares less about popularity or other crap like that but to have to deal with people like Charlie and Metgo forget it. I've been a member since July and if cared about post counts and popularity I'd have alot more posts than I do now!!!

I've posted less than 20 times in over 8 months and looked at Charlie, he has posted 25 times just today. Dude give me a break!!!

First, we don't call people names here, so I edited your post.

As for people playing internet cops and personal attacks, there is a REPORT button on every post. Please report it. That way it will get proper attention.

Thanks

[Camsdad]

First, we don't call people names here, so I edited your post.

As for people playing internet cops and personal attacks, there is a REPORT button on every post. Please report it. That way it will get proper attention.

Thanks


Looks like we edited at the same time. I had copied a pm that shouldn't have made it in the thread!!! Oh man I just hit 21 posts in over 8 months time to celebrate :)

[wickedchargerrt]

I could care less about post counts. I travel alot and see some of the members cars on here. I put a post in the General Discussion forum and get Charlie and METGO playing internet cops make personal attacks, hijack the thread, mention nothing about Chargers but my post gets locked.

I know I'm just a person on here of many. I'm one who cares less about popularity or other crap like that but to have to deal with people like Charlie and Metgo forget it. I've been a member since July and if cared about post counts and popularity I'd have alot more posts than I do now!!!

I've posted less than 20 times in over 8 months and looked at Charlie, he has posted 25 times just today. Dude give me a break!!!

Why would you even call people out like that in the first place? I'm surprised your whole worthless post wasnt deleted. Who cares if you dont like somebody, putting their name on blast for everyone else to see isnt gonna do anything but cause more drama. :smoke:

[Camsdad]

Why would you even call people out like that in the first place? I'm surprised your whole worthless post wasnt deleted. Who cares if you dont like somebody, putting their name on blast for everyone else to see isnt gonna do anything but cause more drama. :smoke:


Why don't you ask them why they called me out? Whats the point of your reply???? To cause more drama perhaps? Why not send a pm if it wasn't? Don't worry I'm done posting. It's worthless :)

[BetoMXL]

I thinks its a good idea, i havent post much in the last few months, but i read almost everything here.. most of the time i have a good laugh with all the post, but still, i think its a good idea...

[Spankis]

I'm glad to see this happening. I had become a much less frequent visitor here from the time I got my Stealth, and I was a little displeased with the current state of things when I came back. I think this will be just the thing to return it to it's former greatness!!

[metgo]

I could care less about post counts. I travel alot and see some of the members cars on here. I put a post in the General Discussion forum and get Charlie and METGO playing internet cops make personal attacks, hijack the thread, mention nothing about Chargers but my post gets locked.

I know I'm just a person on here of many. I'm one who cares less about popularity or other crap like that but to have to deal with people like Charlie and Metgo forget it. I've been a member since July and if cared about post counts and popularity I'd have alot more posts than I do now!!!

I've posted less than 20 times in over 8 months and looked at Charlie, he has posted 25 times just today. Dude give me a break!!!

Just plain ignorance, that is all I have to say to that. I feel I contribute greatly to this forum and I discuss charger related topics all the time, even in off topic and the chat lounge. You need to get your facts straight before you go making personal attacks on someone.

[1finecharger]

Looking forward to a "New & Improved" Charger Forums. :)

-=FLEX=-
x2 .................

[1finecharger]

Why would you even call people out like that in the first place? I'm surprised your whole worthless post wasnt deleted. Who cares if you dont like somebody, putting their name on blast for everyone else to see isnt gonna do anything but cause more drama. :smoke:

Something this forum needs to do without, alot of us go elsewhere just to avoid all the chatter. Time to get back to CHARGER info and bring the chatter elsewhere-nothing personal intended, just a thought. Do the best you can and see how it goes. Any improvement is a good improvement.

[wickedchargerrt]

2 posts removed by admin - enough already!!

[TBYDaytona40]

Folks, let's get this thread back on track. We are all Charger brothers and sisters. Lets sing Kumbaya and drink eggnog......wait, holidays are gone no eggnog.

[REB]

Folks, let's get this thread back on track. We are all Charger brothers and sisters. Lets sing Kumbaya and drink eggnog......wait, holidays are gone no eggnog.

*Bloody optimist*



(Hey, this thread needed an Arfurian aside....)



REB

[SublimeInMA]

2 posts removed by admin - enough already!!

who are you talking too? The ones removing the posts or the ones making the posts that have to be removed?

[ChargerChick]

who are you talking too? The ones removing the posts or the ones making the posts that have to be removed?

Tom, I think those are HEMEEE's words there. It looks to me like she deleted what Wicked said and put that in it's place.

[wickedchargerrt]

who are you talking too? The ones removing the posts or the ones making the posts that have to be removed?


No thats what happens when you voice your opinion, even though your following the rules, someone else still changes what you wrote. You arent allowed to say what you think. Your no longer allowed to even stay within the rules without your posts being edited so why say anything in the first place?
What was written was not written by me.

[ChargeRonDavinS]

what's so wrong with a charger chat? That would be so awesome, can we have one on another site that you guys don't have to moderate? Perhaps one that's a "stickY" so we all know, and a thread saying this is the charger chat?

Just an idea, if you don't want to create one here

[ChargerChick]

If that's not a possiblity here, there's an excellent chat that someone from LX runs and it's usually got people in it all hours of the day! :)

[charger08srt]

Fantastic. It's about time. :)
(Although I'm in favor of removing post counts entirely...)

i agree on the post count removal... i wonder how many would actually post here... :silenced:

[ChargerChick]

i agree on the post count removal... i wonder how many would actually post here... :silenced:

We've already lost a few because of it, despite them saying it wouldn't matter if it counted or not. I guess it did. :(

[charger08srt]

We've already lost a few because of it, despite them saying it wouldn't matter if it counted or not. I guess it did. :(

how many did you lose...

[ChargeRonDavinS]

I don't care much about post counts, but I still think a chargerforms only chat would be in line. Dont know many folks at lx

[ChargerChick]

how many did you lose...

I lost over 4K. :)

But I was talking about losing people.

[elcobra44]

(hugs ChargerChick)

It'll be okay......

[Part Deux]

(hugs ChargerChick)

It'll be okay......

You just wanted to hug ChargerChick, LOL

[ChargerChick]

(hugs ChargerChick)

It'll be okay......

Mmmmm....I love elcobra hugs!!! :love:

You just wanted to hug ChargerChick, LOL

Yeah, so? I like his hugs! :D

[TBYDaytona40]

I wouldnt hug her if I was youssesss...

[ChargerChick]

I wouldnt hug her if I was youssesss...

WHY NOT???? :(

[TBYDaytona40]

cuz only I get to hug youssessss~

[1000HEMI]

Good Idea Let Get Back To The Real Site Chargers
I Get Sick Of The Personal Stuff Sometimes.

[FLEX]

This is the most hilarious hijack ever! :lol:

Look at what thread you people all just took a MAJOR LEFT TURN on. :D

-=FLEX=-

Back on topic: Chargerforums needs the help of every member to stay on topic, despite titillating discussions on hugging and what-not. :)

[ChargerChick]

Yeah, that is kinda funny I suppose. But I like hugs. :)

Anyway, since you guys wanna stay on topic *sigh*, very well. I do agree with Mr Ron Davins about getting a CF chat. :)

[wickedchargerrt]

Yeah, that is kinda funny I suppose. But I like hugs. :)

Anyway, since you guys wanna stay on topic *sigh*, very well. I do agree with Mr Ron Davins about getting a CF chat. :)

You should give everyone a hug you deliver mail to every day. That'd freak the world out.


About the topic, the rules say we cant complain about the forum without pming mods, and my threads have been edited because i voiced my opinion before so honestly i doubt they give a flip what our opinion is.

I know , i know, i 'll leave now.

[moparkid]

Hey, I know this is going of on a serious tangent but, I am a newbie...
I am the proud new owner of # 907 Hemi Orange Daytona R/T. I waited by the phone for like 6 weeks for this baby. I wanted to know if anyone could help me out with a few things. I am obviously now low on cash, so I wanted to know where I could find some low budget/reliable mods. If anyone has had any great experiences with a specific vendor please share... I am open to anything.

[wickedchargerrt]

Hey, I know this is going of on a serious tangent but, I am a newbie...
I am the proud new owner of # 907 Hemi Orange Daytona R/T. I waited by the phone for like 6 weeks for this baby. I wanted to know if anyone could help me out with a few things. I am obviously now low on cash, so I wanted to know where I could find some low budget/reliable mods. If anyone has had any great experiences with a specific vendor please share... I am open to anything.

wrong place to ask this bud but. . .

Check performance section for what mods are worth
check forum vendor feedback areas for each vendor to get answers from members about each specific one.

My opinion. I've had only two good experiences with forum vendors and neither company is a vendor anymore. All others I've had several issues with. Up to you to research for your particular thing though

[metgo]

We've already lost a few because of it, despite them saying it wouldn't matter if it counted or not. I guess it did. :(

Some of us choose not to post at this piece of **** forum anymore for other reasons.

[GLHS837]

Thanks, if you dont like it, then dont let the door hitya on the ass on the way out. Really, if you think its a POS, then go. But, if you want change, it certainly wont come about by calling the forums names.

[StoneWhite/Boise]

My thoughts....I thought it was great that you changed things over to the "chat lounge" where no posts would count, also cleaned things up and deleted some stuff, Great!! Good job!!

What I see as crazy is now you are managing to the chat lounge and locking or deleting posts there because you say too many threads...WHAT, if people dont know how to select the thread types they only want to see then thats their issue, this forum allows for them to select what you want to see. The people who "chat" also buy from the vendors and contribute to other areas yet you limit them and control what they can do.

I just think your going a little overboard in managing the chat area.

[soccerbachelor]

I feel like the horse is dead stop beating it. I do agree that the mods should be more leanient (sp?) in the chat lounge but if they have to tighten up to get everyone up to where it should be then they will let more go later on. I just don't like that everyone is scared to BS like we used to at night, it was all that kept me awake sometimes when I was on watch late at night and now it is dead at night, very boring. But I guess I could find a random chat room somewhere to keep me occupied but there are less dumb#sses here.

[MOSHMAN]

Sounds good, theres another post count for me:lol: :lol: :lol:

[mtcraigco]

Some of us choose not to post at this piece of **** forum anymore for other reasons.

C'mon metgo, that's not a real mature attitude, thought you were made of sterner stuff than that (dissapointed)

[ChargerChick]

Some of us choose not to post at this piece of **** forum anymore for other reasons.

What are the other reasons? And I'm really sorry that you feel this way. :(

[ChargerChick]

I feel like the horse is dead stop beating it. I do agree that the mods should be more leanient (sp?) in the chat lounge but if they have to tighten up to get everyone up to where it should be then they will let more go later on. I just don't like that everyone is scared to BS like we used to at night, it was all that kept me awake sometimes when I was on watch late at night and now it is dead at night, very boring. But I guess I could find a random chat room somewhere to keep me occupied but there are less dumb#sses here.

Why are you afraid to chat? There are still plenty of places to do that here! :)

[08Black3.5SE+]

Some of us choose not to post at this piece of **** forum anymore for other reasons.

wow....then why did you come back to post that?

i for one like it here....

any word on a cf chat? i think its a great idea...probably the best one ive heard on here...doesnt lx have one?

[ChargeRonDavinS]

wow....then why did you come back to post that?

i for one like it here....

any word on a cf chat? i think its a great idea...probably the best one ive heard on here...doesnt lx have one?

LXchat is cool and all, but those LXforums guys.. :rolleyes: we need one for us, even if it IS seperate. Maybe I can make an official chat, wonder how much it costs.