where is tbyrne? (merged)

[smaf96]

their number or email neither works. im getting suspicious. i just placed an order.

[TBYDaytona40]

There could be problems due to weather or I have heard they are on vacation. I would not be suspicious. Everyone from here that has ever done business with them that I know of has had plenty of positive things to say about them.

[oljustice]

I've bought several things from Tom. Don't worry. I'm sure whatever the case is, it is temporary.

[Denver Inferno]

their number or email neither works. im getting suspicious. i just placed an order.
I was going to order today but the toll free number and the MA number both gave a recording that said it was no longer in service or disconnected. I am now glad I forgot to call yesterday.

[Mecha]

wow i have parts on order too

[Mecha]

look at their front page

http://www.tbyrnemotorsports.com/

"We are currently closed for vacation!"

my parts were being drop shipped from jba so hope they still come

[oljustice]

Looks like they went on vacation and disconnected the line so as not to get bombarded with calls.

Now I would've just put up a recording stating that they were on vacation with an estimated return date, but thats just me.

In reality? Its probably smoke-n-mirrors. Hopefully whatever the deal is, it gets resolved soon.

[smaf96]

thats freaking great, thanks for letting us know, closed for how long? a couple of days, a week, a month? i ordered headers and midpipes, only got charged for one item, no confirmation #, no tracking #, and now there closed for vacation. ive never in my life seen a whole business private, or public close down for vacation, especially with no warning. And then they just just disconect the phones and reject all emails. what the hell! somebody tell me im wrong!!!

[SRT8UUP]

Everyones allowed a vacation arent they ?? I dont call every one of my customers/clients and inform them when im going away as im sure most dont.

Like many ive bought from Tom also. Hes Solid Gold.

Another week wont kill you.

Enjoy

[smaf96]

Everyones allowed a vacation arent they ?? I dont call every one of my customers/clients and inform them when im going away as im sure most dont.

Like many ive bought from Tom also. Hes Solid Gold.

Another week wont kill you.

Enjoy


thanks for the reply but made no sense, everyone is allowed vacation, but he is a vendor on this forum and i would at least expect the courtesy from them to let us know hes leaving for a while so i can have the option to buy or not. u didnt spend your hard earned money this week and dont know what the hell is going on. i bet if u bought 2 expensive items, got charged for one, received no confirmation # for yor order, no tracking #, and then when u called it says this phone # is longer in service, to top it off u get a failed delivery notice evertime u send an email - that was the best part, u would be a little concerned and pissed off too. thanks for nothing and have a nice day
:confused:

[Mecha]

Fax 1-508-636-0777
Tech 1-508-636-0774
Order Line 1-877-4-TBYRNE
Phone number from my invoice Phone # 508-636-0770

Their Tech line and their fax line are disconnected as well.

why would you have your phones disconnected if you were going on vacation?

[charger08srt]

I'm not sure why some vendors on here post parts for sale when the parts are not in stock. Tbyrne listed a thread about a month ago for the slp loudmouth 2 exhaust for sale and when i called to order they told me it would be around 2-3 weeks to get back in stock. Well that time passed and still no exhaust, so I contacted my local speed shop and they said they can get it in 1 week... what gives? Do they wait until they have enough orders to get it at a cheaper price (like group buy)?? I'd rather pay full price and it get in a week than save 70 dollars and get it in a month. They should state on the thread about the possible delay time.:confused:

[XXL HEMI]

I ordered headers on Monday and they are enroute and do to be delivered Monday the 18th by UPS.

[SublimeDaytona268]

OK, Im not trying to get in trouble or anything, and if it really is nothing then ignore this thread and it can be deleted......

BUT, my brother is on corvette forums and he said TBrne took a bunch of orders and has disappeared. Phone lines disconnected, emails dont work, the whole thing.

I just think people should be aware in case you are waiting on an order from them, you can get on the ball with taking th necessary action to get your money back.

Something like this doesnt happen very often, thats why I posted here, because this is where he always posted. I for one am sad if he really did shut down because there are a few things I wanted to order, but i do not feel bad for them if they really did leave all these people high and dry. Who is the last person to hear from them? Did you get what you ordered?

Lets get down to the bottom of this....

-Pat

[ko4000]

I would think they are missing out on a lot of money!!
Spring is just around the corner, and there is a lot of modding going on!!!!
HHP here I come!!

[lanbo]

Well, I ordered two Predators from them I think on January 29 or so and got it 2 days later. I have an e-mail in to them regarding one that hasn't been answered yet, but I only sent it yesterday.

[smaf96]

yeah, ur a little late, theres a thread in the tbyrne vendor forums thread, "he's on vacation" according to his website

[Mecha]

Fax 1-508-636-0777
Tech 1-508-636-0774
Order Line 1-877-4-TBYRNE
Phone number from my invoice Phone # 508-636-0770

all phone lines are disconnected
all emails bounce.

why would you have your phones disconnected if you were going on vacation?
why wouldnt you as a business post on a forum someplace that your going on vacation when the forums account for a major part of your business.


http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66810

[Mecha]

here is the WHOIS info from their domain name.

Administrative Contact : Byrne, Tom tbyrne@TBYRNEMOTORSPORTS.COM PO Box 1583 Westport, MA 02790 US Phone: (508) 679-9760 Fax: (508) 679-5159

those are new numbers and fax line.. not sure if they work or not

[betta510]

Holy s**t! Why am I going thru the same thing?!? But with a different vendor, should I mention their name? I ordered an exhaust from them and it's been a month and a half now and I haven't gotten it. Every time I called to ask them about their answer was always the same "It's going to be delivered this friday" And NOW they won't even answer! ! ! Their "moving to a bigger location", that's what the answering machine was saying the past few days, now nothing! it just rings and rings and rings. What to do? ? ?

[Denver Inferno]

Everyones allowed a vacation arent they ?? I dont call every one of my customers/clients and inform them when im going away as im sure most dont.

Like many ive bought from Tom also. Hes Solid Gold.

Another week wont kill you.

Enjoy
That pretty much what my son was told on a Z300 Forum when a company that had his $1,800 for two turbos disappeared off the face of the earth. He is a college kid with limited funds trying to get his car running. He was out of state with his car down for several months until he could get the mess figured out and then straightened out with the credit card company. He didn't have the money to re-order from another company and the turbos cannot be replaced with the engine back in the car.

So unless you have most of your cash in this deal, lighten up.

Also some ISPs are apparently caching the web page to save bandwidth because one of my ISPs (a large reputable one) does NOT show the "vacation" notice so I don't need smart aleck remarks about not knowing. And no, it's not cached locally on my PC because I am using the same PC and have tested from ISP A to ISP B and back to ISP A.

Has nobody around here heard of the automatic out of office email notification or changing their voice mail response to the alternate out of office greeting?

[ko4000]

Holy s**t! Why am I going thru the same thing?!? But with a different vendor, should I mention their name? I ordered an exhaust from them and it's been a month and a half now and I haven't gotten it. Every time I called to ask them about their answer was always the same "It's going to be delivered this friday" And NOW they won't even answer! ! ! Their "moving to a bigger location", that's what the answering machine was saying the past few days, now nothing! it just rings and rings and rings. What to do? ? ?

Whose the vendor.. come on spill the beans.. It could help some of us avoid any possible problems when ordering. Thanks

[charger22DUB]

Holy s**t! Why am I going thru the same thing?!? But with a different vendor, should I mention their name? I ordered an exhaust from them and it's been a month and a half now and I haven't gotten it. Every time I called to ask them about their answer was always the same "It's going to be delivered this friday" And NOW they won't even answer! ! ! Their "moving to a bigger location", that's what the answering machine was saying the past few days, now nothing! it just rings and rings and rings. What to do? ? ?

Did you purchase it with a VISA credit card? Not alot of people know about this but if your card has a VISA logo on it then you money is federally insured (or something like that) call you the number on your CC and dispute the charge. They will most likely ask you to write a letter but you will also explain to them what happened, they may also ask you to send a copy of a receipt for the purchase and they will investigate the case.

[betta510]

StripperMotors, and it's a Chase member card. I'm tripping here. . . What are we or am I gonna do? ? ?

[charger22DUB]

I have BofA and I had a case where I purchased an Ipod Adapter from a local stereo shop, long story short they were "apparently" broken into and closed down shop. I couldn't speak to anyone in person or over the phone, I called the number on my CC and they gave me temporary credit for my purchase and a month later I recieved a letter from my bank telling me that I could keep the money.

[charger22DUB]

StripperMotors, and it's a Chase member card. I'm tripping here. . . What are we or am I gonna do? ? ?

Call and disput the charge tell them that they keep giving you the runaround and that you purchase this item over a month ago.

[betta510]

Yeah, I'm calling right now. What kind of B.S is this though, I thought these we're legitimate businesses!

[lanbo]

I sent an e-mail to them yesterday and while I haven't gotten a response, I don't recall getting an error back about it. It is possible though, that his inbox is full and won't accept any more e-mails. Mine did that at work once while I was on vacation till I deleted a bunch of old stuff. It is, however, odd that the phones don't work and that the whole place would shut down for vacation. Though, if it's a family business or something like that, it would make sense if they all went together wouldn't it?

[Mecha]

well they are a brick and mortar business not ran out of his garage.


pretty big building
http://www.tbyrnemotorsports.com/contact.html

http://www.tbyrnemotorsports.com/shop2.jpg

[jeeplaw]

Tom's been around for a long time now, i'm sure he'll be on to explain..

I hope

[charger08srt]

Holy s**t! Why am I going thru the same thing?!? But with a different vendor, should I mention their name? I ordered an exhaust from them and it's been a month and a half now and I haven't gotten it. Every time I called to ask them about their answer was always the same "It's going to be delivered this friday" And NOW they won't even answer! ! ! Their "moving to a bigger location", that's what the answering machine was saying the past few days, now nothing! it just rings and rings and rings. What to do? ? ?

dispute the charge and have your bank reverse payment

[charger08srt]

Yeah, I'm calling right now. What kind of B.S is this though, I thought these we're legitimate businesses!

you would think... that's why i got pissed when some of the vendors selling stuff and it's not even in stock...

[402 Motoring]

A while back Tom made a passing comment in a thread that he and his wife were separating. This could be the reason for his abscence. No one disconnects their phone because they go on vacation btw.

[charger08srt]

A while back Tom made a passing comment in a thread that he and his wife were separating. This could be the reason for his abscence. No one disconnects their phone because they go on vacation btw.
i read this too but you still have a business and loyality to your customers. and you shouldn't be selling stuff if it's not in stock and you won't get it for over a month

[402 Motoring]

If you only knew how much profit he is actually making, you would understand why he doesn't have a huge stock of items. Inventory cost lots and lots of money

[smaf96]

okay, i started this thread, i cant be all that mad anymore, i just received my headers but no midpipes..they havent charged me for it so my best guess they are out of stock and of course didnt tell me, i didnt ask of of course why would u have an ongoing sale on a out of stock item? but that just me thinking out loud? now i have my headers which are pretty much pointless without the midpipes and as we all know i cant call anyone to get any answers.

[betta510]

Hey 402 Motoring, do you know what's going on with StripperMotorsports? ? ?

[Mecha]

okay, i started this thread, i cant be all that mad anymore, i just received my headers but no midpipes..they havent charged me for it so my best guess they are out of stock and of course didnt tell me, i didnt ask of of course why would u have an ongoing sale on a out of stock item? but that just me thinking out loud? now i have my headers which are pretty much pointless without the midpipes and as we all know i cant call anyone to get any answers.

you can install your headers and use your stock midpipes.

thats how i have been running about 6 months. i too had the midpipes on order from Tom. he said they were drop shipped right from JBA.

or would have been.
i have an invoice from them but my CC has not been charged.

[SublimeDaytona268]

Here is the thread from Corvette forums I was talking about:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1941206

Apparently he may be going through a divorce and is trying to liquidate assets. I just hope nothing fishy is going on. I have done business with Tbyrne before on a few occassions, my brother as well, and they have always been great. I was looking forward to doing ALOT more business with them, so hopefully they are not gone for good or anything. They seem to have always been great around here, but I just think people should know whats going on.

-Pat

[Mecha]

or this?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1915381

[lanbo]

well they are a brick and mortar business not ran out of his garage.
http://www.tbyrnemotorsports.com/shop2.jpg

Oh, I know that, I didn't mean to imply he's small potatoes or anything, I know it's quite the opposite, I just meant that it's pheasible that everyone that works there went on vacation together. Or that everyone that would actually be needed to run the place did anyway. I've only ordered from them once, but I had a great experience.

[SnakeStomper]

I've had great experience buying from Tom. It is very very strange though, that he didn't make any posts on the forums he advertises announcing the vacation. And on top of that, phones are disconnected? I hope this gets resolved soon ..

[SMosher]

I hope all is well with him and his co workers.

Cant wait for him to get back on tack.

[t500hps]

It's on lxforums.com too...I've posted some stories about a boating vendor that started out just like Tbyrne's story....Unknown total losses but known losses were over $250K to Fred Cecil of Trick Marine, aka "Too Old" on offshoreonly.com and other boating forums.

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=100852

You can read this and see my posts weren't appreciated.

[CHARLIE]

I sent him a check for the predator about 3 weeks ago. I still have not recieve it yet. I hope I didn't get ripped off.

[RR/TT]

unfortuneatly this happens all of the time. i have had this personally happen to me when i was building up another truck. i have since learned to travel out to the desired location and check it out more indepth.

i took a trip out to tbyrne a few weeks ago and was informed that they will be moving shortly. i believe that his kids or at least cousins work for him because they looked like family. i believe also that all posts are not from him but maybe from his kids.

i did not end up purchasing anything from this business or getting anything installed. i just did not get the right "vibe". i used to be in biz myself and i am very familar with biz issues. i do believe just in time ordering and drop shipping is done to alleviate stock tying up capital.

good luck. a simple tip for all biz owners is to pre-pay when you are doing well for a bankruptcy plan. this will give you peace and mind when the gears jam and you are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[SnakeStomper]

I just emailed Tom, Nicole and Carol at Tbyrne ... all emails bounced except Nicole's. Hopefully she gets it, worth a shot ...

[SublimeDaytona268]

Anyone who hears anything about this, please keep us posted. I was in the midst of planning a big purchase and TByrne was gonna be mo go-to vendor! D'oh! Id love to continue doing business with them, but the whol phone lines disconnected/emails returned undeliverable thing has got me a little nervous....

I hope for the best for all of them regardless. Hopefully Tom can get things back on track.

-Pat

[Aremel]

I've purchased a lot of stuff from Tom and he's a stand up guy. If he's closed due to personal issues, he'll make it right when they're resolved. I believe that and I wish him the very best in whatever's happening.

[CHARLIE]

I've purchased a lot of stuff from Tom and he's a stand up guy. If he's closed due to personal issues, he'll make it right when they're resolved. I believe that and I wish him the very best in whatever's happening.

I hope you are right. I am hoping that my predator is in the mail already.

[Insidious_SRT]

Finally an answer to why my emails have been getting sent back to me. How weird.

[SublimeDaytona268]

Im seriously hoping I wake up tomorrow and check the forums (usually the first thing I do everyday :D ) and I come to TByrne's vendor section and he's back up and running. While I certainly do hope everything is OK on his end, I would love for him to come back strong and continue doing business here on the forums. Hopefully it seriously was a temporary thing and he'll be up and running again at the start of this week!

-Pat

[SublimeDaytona268]

Hmmmm, I just noticed under one of their banners on the site it says they have a new address and new phone numbers.... how old is that?

Cant wait to see Tom post on this thread and straighten us all out!

-Pat

[TBYDaytona40]

Website still says they are on vacation.

[TripleTransAm]

I have no idea what Tom's up to, nor am I a longtime client (I think I just recently bought my first part from him, a Hotchkis sway kit for my Hemi), but I do "know him" online from way before he was involved in any auto-parts business and he never gave me any indication of being shady. If I recall correctly I first met him at a New England car show back when I was first getting started with the whole car show thing with my GTA, back when he had a mildly modified early 4th gen Camaro Z28.

I also recall him being present for one of our local F-body weekends (plant tour, cruise nights, dinners, racing, SLP plant tours, etc.) and I think he had his wife and a young child at the time... if this is the relationship he's currently having trouble with, I hope he works things out, they made a cute couple back then when I last saw them (jeez... 10 years ago!?).

But as my dad has said many times in the past, even Lucifer was once an angel... :)

In any case, I'm hoping he sorts things out as well as possible (happiness isn't always easy to find, and life sometimes clouds one's eyes to what true happiness really is) and I hope no one finds themselves at a financial loss over what is happening or what will happen.

[KillaBee]

Vacation, Divorce, etc...whatever the situation, anyone with a business should be able to maintain normal hours of operation with the exception of holidays. The guy doesn't have an assistant to hold down the business while he is away? This is a retail business and paying customers should never be left wondering where their order is. If this guys business shuts down because he is gone, what would happen to all those open orders if, God forbid, he died.
Regardless, I personally can overlook this recent disappearance, and still look forward to doing business with Tbyrne. I can't wait until he gets back because I want to take advantage of the package deals he offers. You can't beat those prices. As a man who just got recently divorced, I can understand any chaos involved. If any of you are going thru a divorce, remember these two things.
1. Do whatever it takes to stay civil, leading to an uncontested divorce. It's cheaper, faster, and easier. I kissed my cheating wife's ass to keep her happy until the papers were finalized, and hey, I got the Charger!
2. Don't pay child support to the state. Open a bank account in the child/ children's name, and get a written agreement that both parents will put an equal amount into child's account every month. Funds will be used by custodial parent (whoever has the child at the time) for purchases related to the child. That way you can monitor the account and see where the money goes for piece of mind. The state assumes too much control otherwise.

[FLEX]

If any of you are going thru a divorce, remember these two things.
1. Do whatever it takes to stay civil, leading to an uncontested divorce. It's cheaper, faster, and easier. I kissed my cheating wife's ass to keep her happy until the papers were finalized, and hey, I got the Charger!
2. Don't pay child support to the state. Open a bank account in the child/ children's name, and get a written agreement that both parents will put an equal amount into child's account every month. Funds will be used by custodial parent (whoever has the child at the time) for purchases related to the child. That way you can monitor the account and see where the money goes for piece of mind. The state assumes too much control otherwise.

I've gone through two divorces and I agree wholeheartedly with #1, but on my planet #2 is not an option. Anyone else ever seen/heard of this working or even being a viable alternative???

If so, please PM me.

Because I pay about 2 grand a month in child support to my 2 ex-wives, and I've always thought this would make sense, but it just isn't the way things are set up.

I'm a man, so automatically everything is my fault, and I pay, pay, pay.

/rant off.

Sorry for the hijack.

[SnakeStomper]

I've been following another thread on another board where a customer shipped some damaged parts back to Tbyrne last week via UPS. Here's UPS's status of that package:
THE RECEIVER HAS MOVED. UPS ATTEMPTING TO LOCATE RECEIVER TO COMPLETE DELIVERY, NO DELIVERY WAS MADE

They've made 4+ delivery attempts .... nothing :/

[KillaBee]

I've gone through two divorces and I agree wholeheartedly with #1, but on my planet #2 is not an option. Anyone else ever seen/heard of this working or even being a viable alternative???
If so, please PM me.
Because I pay about 2 grand a month in child support to my 2 ex-wives, and I've always thought this would make sense, but it just isn't the way things are set up.
I'm a man, so automatically everything is my fault, and I pay, pay, pay.

Yeah that sucks. I have heard horror stories of child support, which is why my ex-wife and I went this route. I should note that it says on our divorce paperwork "Child Support arrangement is a deviation of State Child Support Guidelines." I call my ex-wife once a month and we discuss how much each of us will put into my daughter's account for that month. Sometimes it's $500 each and other months we don't put anything. Then whoever has the kid uses my daughter's Credit/ Debit Card to purchase baby food, baby clothes, etc. We alternate physical custody every year so paying the state just didn't make sense. It wouldn't surprise me at all if you haven't heard of this situation because I believe we invented it.

And just to keep this related to the Thread...Tbyrne is f@$*in up. I hope everything works out well for everyone who is waiting for mods.

[t500hps]

I made 3 posts on the Tbyrne thread on LXforums and got jumped by one member in particular...(he then gave me red beans...whatever they are). I've cut and pasted my posts below:

1st post:
"Had a similar vendor on a boating forum just a few months ago. He built a reputation for treating people well and selling cheap.....after awhile some orders were not shipped/missing while he was charging C.C.'s immediately after taking the orders. He had been in good standing for 2-3 years then things hit the fan quick. The owner of the website talked to me on the phone about it several times....turns out the losses were 6 figures for members...several had pre-paid in $10K range for stuff they never recieved.....vendors were out 6 figures too!!!!

I'm new to this board and have no idea the history of Tbyrne.

Based on all the positive posts I ordered (and RECIEVED) from them a Predator/CAI package just 2 weeks ago. This just sounds way too much like the start of the down fall of TRICK MARINE...if you want a good read, look up the name Fred Cecil and Trick Marine. Alot of info can also be found on my boating forum..offshoreonly.com (I have the same screen name there too)."



2nd post:
"Give it a couple days....this could be innocent. I'm new here and I had no issue ordering some things 2 weeks ago.
BUT, I watched the EXACT SAME senario play out on a boating board with a prime vendor a couple months ago. I ended up being out a couple hundred bucks which was nothing compared to some.

First the vendor is selling cheap and everyone is getting great service.....

Then, after alot of trust is built a few people express concern about a deal and the masses on the board defend the "good" vendor..............

The vendor posts about family problem, health problems, etc (pick your problem) and people feel sorry for the guy..............

Soon it becomes apparent ALOT of people are out BIG $$$$................

Then all communication stops, and anything left in inventory is found on Ebay...........

This was played out over 2-3 years on offshoreonly.com by Fred Cecil of Trick Marine. Total losses have been calculated at over $250K lost between OSO members and vendors.

If your really bored and want to see how these things play out, read some of these threads FROM THE BOTTOM. I posted in the first one from the bottom about PM's being sent since at that time nearly everyone "loved" the vendor with the screen name "Too Old" (Trick Marine/Fred Cecil)

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine
................"


3rd post:
It's just ironic how similar this is to the beginnnings of that fiasco.
The boating vendor I'm refering to was one of the first founding members on that forum too, (40,000 members) and was very well known/respected. Things happened in his life that spiraled out of control without any of us being aware. Disconected phones and emails are the same way my boating example played out. I really hope the same thing isn't going on as I don't know Tbyrne's history...I ordered from him solely because all the posts on these boards.


I do know when a few in the minority tried to warn the masses that something didn't seem right, they were put down and harrassed into silence. Eventually it all came out, but by then ALOT of other people were out $$$$.

Be careful, that's all I'll comment on the subject since my opinions aren't wanted...... besides, history has a way of repeating itself.

[t500hps]

The point of my above post is that end the end we all saw this coming but NOBODY realized it until AFTER it happened. You can't run a business selling too cheap and expect to maintain your business indefinetly.


If in fact Tbyrne made a big business blunder and just needed to get away for a few weeks then I'll be the first to apologize for doubting him....until then all we have to go on is his SILENT disappearance.

[Mecha]

I made 3 posts on the Tbyrne thread on LXforums and got jumped by one member in particular...(he then gave me red beans...whatever they are). I've cut and pasted my posts below:

1st post:
"Had a similar vendor on a boating forum just a few months ago. He built a reputation for treating people well and selling cheap.....after awhile some orders were not shipped/missing while he was charging C.C.'s immediately after taking the orders. He had been in good standing for 2-3 years then things hit the fan quick. The owner of the website talked to me on the phone about it several times....turns out the losses were 6 figures for members...several had pre-paid in $10K range for stuff they never recieved.....vendors were out 6 figures too!!!!

I'm new to this board and have no idea the history of Tbyrne.

Based on all the positive posts I ordered (and RECIEVED) from them a Predator/CAI package just 2 weeks ago. This just sounds way too much like the start of the down fall of TRICK MARINE...if you want a good read, look up the name Fred Cecil and Trick Marine. Alot of info can also be found on my boating forum..offshoreonly.com (I have the same screen name there too)."



2nd post:
"Give it a couple days....this could be innocent. I'm new here and I had no issue ordering some things 2 weeks ago.
BUT, I watched the EXACT SAME senario play out on a boating board with a prime vendor a couple months ago. I ended up being out a couple hundred bucks which was nothing compared to some.

First the vendor is selling cheap and everyone is getting great service.....

Then, after alot of trust is built a few people express concern about a deal and the masses on the board defend the "good" vendor..............

The vendor posts about family problem, health problems, etc (pick your problem) and people feel sorry for the guy..............

Soon it becomes apparent ALOT of people are out BIG $$$$................

Then all communication stops, and anything left in inventory is found on Ebay...........

This was played out over 2-3 years on offshoreonly.com by Fred Cecil of Trick Marine. Total losses have been calculated at over $250K lost between OSO members and vendors.

If your really bored and want to see how these things play out, read some of these threads FROM THE BOTTOM. I posted in the first one from the bottom about PM's being sent since at that time nearly everyone "loved" the vendor with the screen name "Too Old" (Trick Marine/Fred Cecil)

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=trick+marine
................"


3rd post:
It's just ironic how similar this is to the beginnnings of that fiasco.
The boating vendor I'm refering to was one of the first founding members on that forum too, (40,000 members) and was very well known/respected. Things happened in his life that spiraled out of control without any of us being aware. Disconected phones and emails are the same way my boating example played out. I really hope the same thing isn't going on as I don't know Tbyrne's history...I ordered from him solely because all the posts on these boards.


I do know when a few in the minority tried to warn the masses that something didn't seem right, they were put down and harrassed into silence. Eventually it all came out, but by then ALOT of other people were out $$$$.

Be careful, that's all I'll comment on the subject since my opinions aren't wanted...... besides, history has a way of repeating itself.

oh i got the redbean of death also.. whatever they are used for.

i got the red beans because he said i was spreading rumours from "another LX forum" when i think everything i posted was fact.

I order, had not received, and he disappeared

had another member give me green bean umm ok cause he didnt think it was right..

[t500hps]

oh i got the redbean of death also.. whatever they are used for.

i got the red beans because he said i was spreading rumours from "another LX forum" when i think everything i posted was fact.

I order, had not received, and he disappeared

had another member give me green bean umm ok cause he didnt think it was right..

Probably the same members that red, and green beaned each of us. Lets just say I'm not a fan of the corn-HUSKERs. :silenced:

[boogie]

Hmm, I know this stuff can make people nervous, but here is their new info from their web site. Try this:



TBYRNE Motorsports Order Line 1-877-4-TBYRNE
1227 Horseneck Rd Tech 1-508-636-0770
Westport, MA 02790 Fax 1-508-636-0777


NOTE: Toll free line is blocked in MA and out of the country

PLEASE NOTE OUR NEW ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBERS

Hours 9AM - 5PM (EST) Monday - Friday
Tech Line Available from 11AM - 5PM (EST)

PRICE MATCHING AVAILABLE!

[SMosher]

Old info dude.

Hmm, I know this stuff can make people nervous, but here is their new info from their web site. Try this:



TBYRNE Motorsports Order Line 1-877-4-TBYRNE
1227 Horseneck Rd Tech 1-508-636-0770
Westport, MA 02790 Fax 1-508-636-0777


NOTE: Toll free line is blocked in MA and out of the country

PLEASE NOTE OUR NEW ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBERS

Hours 9AM - 5PM (EST) Monday - Friday
Tech Line Available from 11AM - 5PM (EST)

PRICE MATCHING AVAILABLE!

[boogie]

Old info dude.


Ok, well since it says new address and numbers and it didn't just a few days ago. And it also no longer says "On Vacation", I thought it would be useful. I got the impression that most here didn't know this. My bad.

[SublimeDaytona268]

Boogie, I made the same mistake you did bro. When you click on their banner, it takes you to the 300C section of their site from here on ChargerForums. Thats where it says to note the new address and phone numbers and stuff, and there is no longer an "on vacation" thing up.

But if you actually go to the address bar in your browser and type in www.tbyrnemotorsports.com it still takes you back to the homepage where it says they are on vacation and whatnot.

-Pat

[SMosher]

No .. My bad. I didn't mean to sound like a pop off ****.

Sorry dude.

Ok, well since it says new address and numbers and it didn't just a few days ago. And it also no longer says "On Vacation", I thought it would be useful. I got the impression that most here didn't know this. My bad.

[APFU]

I think he is hiding :frown:

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215130

[betta510]

This sucks, I wonder just how many people are waiting on orders from tbyrne. I still can't get a hold of anyone from strippermotorsports, anyone else having problems with them?

[boogie]

No .. My bad. I didn't mean to sound like a pop off ****.

Sorry dude.

LOL, no problem. I wasn't trying to sound mad. it just came off that way, Ahh the internet ;) I do hope alls well with them. I've ordered a couple of times from the and always received great service.

[Part Deux]

I think he is hiding :frown:

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215130

Now that makes logical sense, destroy your company and hard earned reputation to hide from being served.

[FLEX]

Now that makes logical sense, destroy your company and hard earned reputation to hide from being served.

Makes no sense to me. :no:

A very costly way to delay the inevitable. :knockout:

-=FLEX=-

[SublimeInMA]

Makes no sense to me. :no:

A very costly way to delay the inevitable. :knockout:

-=FLEX=-

And most likely piss off the judge which would hurt you more. Its his battle, lets see if he resurfaces. I have been through a divorce, she dragged it out, judge leaned a bit in my favor on some things.

Tom

[elcobra44]

Nobodies driven over to the joint yet and checked if they're still there?

[betta510]

I was gonna ask if someone can do me that favor, but I'm not sure where strippermotorsports is located. Here is their info:

Stripper Motorsports
19C North Wilson Blvd.
Mt. Clemens, MI 48043

(866) 708-7744

sales@strippermotorsports.com

[SublimeInMA]

Nobodies driven over to the joint yet and checked if they're still there?

I was planning to take a ride Saturday on my day off. its only a couple hours from me.

Tom

[goMANgo259]

I think he is hiding :frown:

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215130

wow. thanks for posting that. pretty interesting to read.

its hard to believe somebody would actually just leave everything and hide.

sounds like he might have a plan that works though.. idk

i hope he come back by summer though

[MySRT8U]

so I have been poking around this and the lxforums thread and I must say that I am a little disappointed in Tom. Any time anyone needs a part, I ALWAYS point them his direction. He has always done great business and this is highly unlike him. I will say that everyone goes through things and everyone handles them in different ways, but to just up and leave your customers high and dry is wrong. When you are a small business, you rely on word of mouth and reputation more than anything and his is getting ruined as we speak. So Tom, if you read this, come back and let us in on whats up or atleast let us know you are ok.

[SublimeDaytona268]

so I have been poking around this and the lxforums thread and I must say that I am a little disappointed in Tom. Any time anyone needs a part, I ALWAYS point them his direction. He has always done great business and this is highly unlike him. I will say that everyone goes through things and everyone handles them in different ways, but to just up and leave your customers high and dry is wrong. When you are a small business, you rely on word of mouth and reputation more than anything and his is getting ruined as we speak. So Tom, if you read this, come back and let us in on whats up or atleast let us know you are ok.

X 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

-Pat

[Bigphil]

this seems like no matter what hes lost his reputation. i doubt anybody here would ever buy from him again if he did come back.


if i were you guys i would be doing charge backs on my cards ASAP.


edit* being a good guy isnt enough, adult decisions have adult consequences.

[t500hps]

this seems like no matter what hes lost his reputation. i doubt anybody here would ever buy from him again if he did come back.


if i were you guys i would be doing charge backs on my cards ASAP.


edit* being a good guy isnt enough, adult decisions have adult consequences.

I have to agree. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions". He may want to pay everyone back, but he WILL put food on his own table first.

[KillaBee]

If he comes back with the same good prices, customers will return. If the old customers don't come back, new ones will.

"The power of Mods compels you."

[goMANgo259]

i'll be buying a diablo and catback from him this summer if he comes back.

[TopBanana107]

I dunno...I was going to order Diablo and SLP from him, but I'm so glad that i didn't. If he came back, I would NOT buy from him...just because he made a huge business blunder. The only place i ordered from was from ProMotionTunng, and they seem to work extra hard to answer questions and to satisfy their customers. Too bad Tom made that choice...I agree that his rep is hurt.

[TBYDaytona40]

I have, until last week, always referred newbs looking for mods, in particular CAIs and Predators to Tbyrne. I havent since this began, only because there is no one there to take the order. Hopefully we find a fair legit reason for all this. I will continue to give him the benefit of the doubt for a bit.

[Part Deux]

I have, until last week, always referred newbs looking for mods, in particular CAIs and Predators to Tbyrne.

Ouch, first the Hummer driver, and then Tbyrne, LOL

Seriously tho, he is throwing away his reputation over his desire to do something that may or may not be legal. Gotta wonder wth he's thinking discussing his "plans" on the internet in a public forum? Doesn't seem like a wise choice to me.

I was all set to order in the next week or so. It would take an extremely convincing argument for me to buy from Tom, at any cost.

[Johnparts]

Hey guys here is the bad/good news as far as customer retention. Any business that is closed for more then 10 days strategicly loses about 80% of it's potential customers. Now I know Tbyrne has given you all great deals and he has a good reputation and I hope he returns to the scene but he is going to have to work his but off to recapture people's trust. The good news is he will be back and he will survive because thats all he can do and he will be stronger then before when this is all over.

[charger08srt]

i agree that tbyrne gave some great deals on parts but how is it that my local speed shop can get my slp exhaust in a week and it would have taken tbryne over a month and that's after he advertised like it was in stock. i'd much rather pay 699 vice 629 and know when i'm getting my part rather than it being in a blackhole status.

[Dan]

I've got $200 in gift certificates with him. I hope he's coming back cause I need Hotchkis or a Predator.

[charger08srt]

I've got $200 in gift certificates with him. I hope he's coming back cause I need Hotchkis or a Predator. good luck... the least he could have done was update everybody on his current situation rather than posting on another board on how to avoid getting served for divorce:confused:

[BilletTechnology]

Guys, I am sorry to hear of this. I had seen this same discussion on another forum. I hope you all get some resolution soon.

Golden rule of good business; do not charge a customer until the product ships

I hope Tbyrne gets back up an running too soon, and hopefully this is not something more serious.

[ko4000]

If you know his last name check the county jail....
I dont want to sound like I am starting rumors but if he is missing and hasnt been logging into this site he might be somewhere where he is unable to do so..

Is there a way we can know his last login date? Admins???

[Mecha]

If you know his last name check the county jail....
I dont want to sound like I am starting rumors but if he is missing and hasnt been logging into this site he might be somewhere where he is unable to do so..

Is there a way we can know his last login date? Admins???
your kidding right?

the owners name of TByrne is drum roll.......Tom Byrne! Last Activity: 02-14-2008 09:02 PM

[ko4000]

your kidding right?

the owners name of TByrne is drum roll.......Tom Byrne!
LMAO!!!:nervous s

[Part Deux]

I've got $200 in gift certificates with him. I hope he's coming back cause I need Hotchkis or a Predator.

If you recently received the gift certificate as a gift, have the person that gave them to you immediately file a claim with their credit card company to reverse the charge. Time is of the essence.

[CHARGERTREV]

this seems like no matter what hes lost his reputation. i doubt anybody here would ever buy from him again if he did come back.


if i were you guys i would be doing charge backs on my cards ASAP.


edit* being a good guy isnt enough, adult decisions have adult consequences.

How can you say this??? YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT HAPPENED!! How do you know(God forbid) he wasnt in a car accident?...Or a death in the family...You just dont know then you come and make a statement like that....He has been here for quite some time and NO-ONE has had problems with him. Its not like he has been online and just ducking people. He hasnt been on so before you make a statement like this....wait and see what the problem is. With that said im sure he really dosent care weather or not you order from him. So I think before you say it think...hmmmm least his names not TBND lol...Hope too see you soon tom and hope everything is good.

[Husker]

Probably the same members that red, and green beaned each of us. Lets just say I'm not a fan of the corn-HUSKERs. :silenced:

:ninja: :ninja:

[TBYDaytona40]

Trev, his website says they are on vacation, and the phone's were disconnected last week on tuesday. Email also suddenly shut off.

[Mecha]

:ninja: :ninja:

whoa your lurking on "the other LX forum" you sick?
you ok?
:lol:

[a14umbra]

Everyone here realizes that his last post was only six days ago, right? A six day "vacation" is not unheard of.

Instead of all of the speculation, let's give him a reasonable amount of time.

[oljustice]

To all those wondering where Tom is... this should shed some light on the situation:

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215130

[a14umbra]

We know. It was posted in this thread yesterday. Hope he gets it straightened out.

[Mecha]

6 day vacation is short to me.

do you shut off your phones and turn off your email system when you go on vacation though?

[a14umbra]

6 day vacation is short to me.

do you shut off your phones and turn off your email system when you go on vacation though?

If you don't want to be found....

[mnunes]

6 day vacation is short to me.

do you shut off your phones and turn off your email system when you go on vacation though?

I think that's what really has people spooked and/or worried about him. Sure, he can take a 2 week vacation, have everyone from the company join him, and not answer phones and email for a month if he wants. But for the company to appear to have disappeared is worrisome.

[Husker]

whoa your lurking on "the other LX forum" you sick?
you ok?
:lol:

I slum here every now and then..:knockout: :grin:

[TBYDaytona40]

There was a post about someone who tried to ship something there UPS or fedex or something. They said they could not deliver because there was no one there and the building appeared vacant. Very odd. Wish somone could drive over therre though. I loved referring his deals to people. Who do I tell people to order a predator from now?

[Mecha]

More interesting reading.

it seems one of the GTO guys lives 10 min from the shop and posted yesterday and was going to swing by the shop and see what he sees.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222553


More it seems the GTO guys have no answers and want them too.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221604

[RTChas]

I gota rant now! I just finished reading thru this mess! I have not been checking this forum but was looking for my K&N CAI. I ordered it on the 11th . I was told it would ship to me in 10 days total because it was out of stock? I was also told it was on sale?If you put something on sale wouldnt you stock it?:knockout: Any how I am a first time buyer and only ordered from them because I was told on this forum they where good to go.I checked out there webpage and called them seemed legit.I could have gotten this CAI from Jegs in 2-days for $10.99 more and I will give Tbyrne 1more day before I bail and call them.This is piss poor service HE should have put out a short Message to all Customers if HE is on Vaca! And when I ordered the Girl on the phone NEVER said the where going to close in a week for any reason I was really on her about the ship date because I knew Jegs would have it in 2-days but because Im cheap and wanted to save $10.99 the order was made, I feel I have been shafted ! I hope I am wrong and this thing ships on the 21st but from what I've read that aint going to happen. Only good thing order has not posted on my CC yet !Okay I am done my Rant Hope all this has a Happy Ending but as it stands now Im not lookin to buy from Tbyrne AGAIN!:(

[Mecha]

I will give Tbyrne 1more day before I bail and call them.

no you wont..... their phones are disconnected as well are the email addresses.

call your credit card provider

[crazylikeacharger]

um their website says they are on vacation so just wait it out and just voice your concerns when they get back

[CHARGERTREV]

Trev, his website says they are on vacation, and the phone's were disconnected last week on tuesday. Email also suddenly shut off.
I understand everyones reason why the are worried but I think he has earned the respect for us to give him the benifit of doubt hasnt he? Just let him explain himself first....Ok im off to school :halloween lol

[t500hps]

The one thing that makes this look less like a scam and more like an idiotic attempt to hide from someone OTHER than his customers is the fact that C.C.'s don't seemed to have been charged for product that hasn't shipped. Post up if that's not the case in your situation. If you ordered, haven't been charged, and haven't recieved product then your not really out anything other than a little time and aggrevation.


I also read somewhere/ from someone (not sure where) that he could be in a place and un-able to post/respond. If he WAS hiding from the divorce, he could have done other foolish things that got him locked up. (COMPLETELY SPECULATIVE, but possible)

[Mecha]

I understand everyones reason why the are worried but I think he has earned the respect for us to give him the benifit of doubt hasnt he? Just let him explain himself first....Ok im off to school :halloween lol

and his customer base he doesnt have respect enough for to say hey i will be gone for a bit (for whatever reason) but i will be back?

[charger08srt]

and his customer base he doesnt have respect enough for to say hey i will be gone for a bit (for whatever reason) but i will be back?

exactly, the least he could do was let people know. oh, i'm on vacation... is that permanent vacation :tongue: i almost ordered a predator from him, i'm glad i saw this post before i did because a day or two before, i was quoted a very good price. not anywhere in the response email did they mention they might go on vacation:cry:

[betta510]

The one thing that makes this look less like a scam and more like an idiotic attempt to hide from someone OTHER than his customers is the fact that C.C.'s don't seemed to have been charged for product that hasn't shipped. Post up if that's not the case in your situation. If you ordered, haven't been charged, and haven't recieved product then your not really out anything other than a little time and aggrevation.


I also read somewhere/ from someone (not sure where) that he could be in a place and un-able to post/respond. If he WAS hiding from the divorce, he could have done other foolish things that got him locked up. (COMPLETELY SPECULATIVE, but possible)

Even if he is somewhere where he can't respond/e-mail back, doesn't he have people working under him? Or is he the only one taking orders, making phone calls, making deliveries etc etc? My point is there should be other people running the business if he's not able for now, right?

[charger08srt]

[/B]

Even if he is somewhere where he can't respond/e-mail back, doesn't he have people working under him? Or is he the only one taking orders, making phone calls, making deliveries etc etc? My point is there should be other people running the business if he's not able for now, right?
you're right but they may all be across the border by now:tongue:

[t500hps]

[/B]

Even if he is somewhere where he can't respond/e-mail back, doesn't he have people working under him? Or is he the only one taking orders, making phone calls, making deliveries etc etc? My point is there should be other people running the business if he's not able for now, right?

I'm not defending him...I think the disappearance act is pretty chitty and will permanently damage his reputation in my eyes. It is a small business, maybe he was too paranoid to give the employees a set of keys???? My point is only that this doesn't appear to be a scheme to steal money from people like the last time I saw this happening.
My earlier example of a boating vendor that disappeared was different because he was BILLING people for things long before they shipped. His business plan was to drop ship from the manufacturer (apparently like Tbyrne), but as he couldn't keep up, more and more people did NOT get there products. (that vendors caused losses in the hundreds of thousands before it was over). Tbyrne doesn't appear to have done that.

[betta510]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like you were defending him, what I said was just a thought. It is a ****ty situation for everyone who has a pending order from him (just how many of us do anyway?).Yeah you can easily call your CC company and get your money back but it's just a big hassel to do this plus the dissapointment of not getting your order you've been waiting on for so long. The vendor I went thru never mentioned anything about the product I purchased from them being on back order, and it seems Tbyrne did the same thing. Is it safe to say just to take it as a loss? I think so.

[SnakeStomper]

The one thing that makes this look less like a scam and more like an idiotic attempt to hide from someone OTHER than his customers is the fact that C.C.'s don't seemed to have been charged for product that hasn't shipped. Post up if that's not the case in your situation. If you ordered, haven't been charged, and haven't recieved product then your not really out anything other than a little time and aggrevation.


I also read somewhere/ from someone (not sure where) that he could be in a place and un-able to post/respond. If he WAS hiding from the divorce, he could have done other foolish things that got him locked up. (COMPLETELY SPECULATIVE, but possible)He has never charged CC's until the product is shipped, that's been his policy since I've been a customer. Hope to see a resolution to all of this, be what it may be.:eek:

[t500hps]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like you were defending him, what I said was just a thought. It is a ****ty situation for everyone who has a pending order from him (just how many of us do anyway?).Yeah you can easily call your CC company and get your money back but it's just a big hassel to do this plus the dissapointment of not getting your order you've been waiting on for so long. The vendor I went thru never mentioned anything about the product I purchased from them being on back order, and it seems Tbyrne did the same thing. Is it safe to say just to take it as a loss? I think so.

No problem. I didn't take offense, I just wanted to clarify my position....seems after 4 months I still harbor some resentment for the boating vendor I've mentioned too many times now!!! :embarrese

[betta510]

I would be pissed too. Right now I'm going thru the same thing with a different vendor. I purchased an exhaust from them early January, and the web-site never said anything about a back order. I called them after 5 days of not getting it (because I got 2nd day delivery) and the tracking status page they sent never changed. They told me it was on back order, but when I called Corsa they told me all their orders were up to date. I got pissed but I kept being patient with the vendor. Now I can't get a hold of anyone there, the phone rings but no answer, and no one responds to my e-mails. I still can't believe some s**t like this would happened, I can't stop rambling about it. Did you ever get your money back from the vendor you had problems with?

[charger08srt]

He has never charged CC's until the product is shipped, that's been his policy since I've been a customer. Hope to see a resolution to all of this, be what it may be.:eek:

that's true about not charging cc's until product is shipped... i was able to cancel my order with carol without charge... thank god

[Dan]

that's true about not charging cc's until product is shipped... i was able to cancel my order with carol without charge... thank god

Still though, there are people who do have money at stake in all of this. Those of us with gift cards.

[t500hps]

I would be pissed too. Right now I'm going thru the same thing with a different vendor. I purchased an exhaust from them early January, and the web-site never said anything about a back order. I called them after 5 days of not getting it (because I got 2nd day delivery) and the tracking status page they sent never changed. They told me it was on back order, but when I called Corsa they told me all their orders were up to date. I got pissed but I kept being patient with the vendor. Now I can't get a hold of anyone there, the phone rings but no answer, and no one responds to my e-mails. I still can't believe some s**t like this would happened, I can't stop rambling about it. Did you ever get your money back from the vendor you had problems with?

I ended up being out a couple hundred bucks without restitution. I let it slide way too long as he always had a plausible story for the delay. Eventually it came out there were ALOT of people owed money from pre-billing CC's prior to shipments, some had waited months like I had and recieved nothing. The site had 40,000 members and was privately owned, I talked to the owner of the site occasionally. He had colllected information for known debts in the hundreds of thousands.

It was perpetuated because so many people on that site had good experiences with this vendor in the past and would "vouch" for him......anyone questioning him got blasted, later those that did the blasting got blasted for defending a crook. (obviously alot of termoil that pitted members against each other for awhile).

Has your card been charged? Make sure your CC knows you have a order pending and to "block" that vendor if you order somewhere else. Just don't wait any longer if you've been waiting since early Jan.

[baldyloxs]

so why dont any of you register on those forums and post in there, hey wtf are my charger parts !!!!

[KillaBee]

I just ordered a Predator, USB Interface Kit, and Afe Stage II Intake from Maryland Speed for 568 shipped. If anyone else is tired of waiting for Tom...

[ko4000]

shipped to Afghanistan?? damn thats good!!

[Part Deux]

How can you say this??? YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT HAPPENED!! How do you know(God forbid) he wasnt in a car accident?...Or a death in the family...You just dont know then you come and make a statement like that....He has been here for quite some time and NO-ONE has had problems with him. Its not like he has been online and just ducking people. He hasnt been on so before you make a statement like this....wait and see what the problem is. With that said im sure he really dosent care weather or not you order from him. So I think before you say it think...hmmmm least his names not TBND lol...Hope too see you soon tom and hope everything is good.

Trev,

There's something that comes from being as OLD as I am, and that's learning to take care of your own business. If the person received the gift certificate as a gift, and it was put on a charge card, the Federal allowed time ti file a claim to get a refund is coming very soon. I'm a hard butt on making recommendations that people immediately file the required paperwork. This fall, I let a vendor take advantage of me, and got busy with some other stuff, and literally went to get my refund... five days too late. Bank said sorry Charlie, you have to eat it.

It doesn't matter if he's dead, in a hospital, thrown in jail, if the time is exceeded by one day, the money is lost. Two hundred dollars is a lot of money in almost everybody's world.

For what ever reason, Tom has suddenly chosen to totally abandon his customers. His customers have every reason to respond to that abandonment. There's an old saying, one oops, wipes out 1,000 attaboys. This is a really big oops, and is damaging a very hard to achieve reputation. Turning off the phones, turning off the email, not warning people, and PUBLICLY discussing/requesting help in disappearing is not the signs of someone standing up to their responsibilities, nor is it someone that people should be doing business with. Potential of loss rises exponentially.

[Part Deux]

Everyone here realizes that his last post was only six days ago, right? A six day "vacation" is not unheard of.

Instead of all of the speculation, let's give him a reasonable amount of time.

Business owners don't go on vacation, or if they do, make sure their business is totally taken care of. I've never seen any business close up, unless they are they are also the sole employees. In those cases, there are signs on the building door, answering machine, bounce back out of office emails, web site all saying when they will return. Most certainly don't cancel the email service, cancel the phones, etc. Even worse don't publicly discuss how to "disappear" and how "hide" assets for an upcoming divorce. None of that gives me a warm and fuzzy.

[AWD_Gabe]

By this time I don't feel like it's out of line to post the following ... (I think the phone numbers below are different than what they advertise as contact numbers ...not sure)


"WHOIS Search Results for: tbyrnemotorsports.com


Domain ID:
Domain Name: tbyrnemotorsports.com
Created On: 23-Jan-1998 00:00:00
Expiration Date: 04-Oct-2008 00:00:00
Sponsoring Registrar: 'Check Whois' (NSI)
Status: client_transfer_prohibited
Name Server: ns.web2010.com
Name Server: ns2.web2010.com
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Registrant Name: T Byrne Motorsports
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Registrant Street1: PO Box 1583
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Registrant City: Westport
Registrant State/Province: MA
Registrant Postal Code: 02790
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Admin ID: Unknown
Admin Name: Byrne Tom
Admin Organization: Unknown
Admin Street1: T Byrne Motorsports
Admin Street2: PO Box 1583
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Admin City: (508) 679-9760 fax: (508) 679-5159
Admin State: Unknown
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Admin Email: tbyrne@TBYRNEMOTORSPORTS.COM"

[RR/TT]

1. stop defending this man.
2. have compassion and handle your own losses.
3. spread the word. this could have been a lot worse.
4. his children and or family still reads this site and is of course devastated.
5. divorce is harsh and some people do not think carefully, or over-react.
6. if you are on this site you are not poor and the loss is only minor in the long run.


had this employee once, he was short $20.00 on his drawer. i fired him. why? either he could not count or was a thief... either way i did not need him. 2 tears in a bucket...

[CHARLIE]

So do we have a list of members that recently purchased products from Tbyrne and have not recieved the items yet? I still have not recieve my Diablo/cables (yet).

[MR-SMITH]

So do we have a list of members that recently purchased products from Tbyrne and have not recieved the items yet? I still have not recieve my Diablo/cables (yet).

Was a charge made to you Credit Card?

[CHARLIE]

Was a charge made to you Credit Card?

No, I contacted them by phone and a check was mailed to them. the reason I went this route is because it was easier to hide it from my wife. She would have been pissed if she knew I had that much money stached away. Now I realize it was a big mistake. :(

[metgo]

No, I contacted them by phone and a check was mailed to them. the reason I went this route is because it was easier to hide it from my wife. She would have been pissed if she knew I had that much money stached away. Now I realize it was a big mistake. :(

So you haven't got your diablo yet?

[betta510]

No, I contacted them by phone and a check was mailed to them. the reason I went this route is because it was easier to hide it from my wife. She would have been pissed if she knew I had that much money stached away. Now I realize it was a big mistake. :(

Lol, I don't mean to laugh at your situation, but I do the same thing, with my girlfriend though, I stash money away, I lie to her about the things I get and tell her it's suppose to help my gas milage, and I lie about how much I pay for stuff. Geez if it's this bad for me now, what do I have to look forward to when I marry her :dead:

[Sedit]

If you haven't received your parts yet and they haven't cashed your check yet, then you can and should cancel that check before it gets cashed. The bad thing is you will be out $15 to $20 on the cancellation transaction.

[TBYDaytona40]

I do the same thing, ie hiding cash from the wife. LOL

[metgo]

I do the same thing, ie hiding cash from the wife. LOL

Well I don't have to worry about that :grin:

[TBYDaytona40]

must be how you can afford them spiffy heads

[metgo]

I think it is funny reading post from all you old farts trying to keep your wives from knowing about your mods :grin:

[TBYDaytona40]

I turn 35 next month. That is NOT old

[metgo]

I turn 35 next month. That is NOT old

Keep telling your self that :grin:

[AWD_Gabe]

I turn 35 next month. That is NOT old

Keep telling your self that :grin:

I turn 33 in May ... a couple of months ago I went on realage.com and took their 5-10 minute test and then they e-mail you their "analysis" of your lifestyle ... they told me that I was really 40.2 years old .... :no: :)

[metgo]

I turn 33 in May ... a couple of months ago I went on realage.com and took their 5-10 minute test and then they e-mail you their "analysis" of your lifestyle ... they told me that I was really 40.2 years old .... :no: :)

Witchy tells me that I act like an 80 year old man with 10 kids :D

[AWD_Gabe]

Has anybody tried this number yet ?

Byrne, Thomas
Westport, MA

(508) 324-9384



Comes up on superpages.com


Also, in Swansea, MA (few towns over), there's


Byrne, Thomas J Jr
Swansea, MA
(508) 673-7186

[metgo]

Is TByrne like a 1 man run business? How is it possible no one can get a hold of them?

[Mecha]

Is TByrne like a 1 man run business? How is it possible no one can get a hold of them?

nope its not a 1 man operation.

at very least 5 people were there.

2 of them were females from the email addresses.

every email bounces back. its like they went into their Webhosting service and disabled the email portion of their ISP.

[CHARLIE]

So you haven't got your diablo yet?

No, I have not recieve my Diablo yet :(

Lol, I don't mean to laugh at your situation, but I do the same thing, with my girlfriend though, I stash money away, I lie to her about the things I get and tell her it's suppose to help my gas milage, and I lie about how much I pay for stuff. Geez if it's this bad for me now, what do I have to look forward to when I marry her :dead:

It doesn't get any better after you are married. In fact, it kind of gets worst.

Is TByrne like a 1 man run business? How is it possible no one can get a hold of them?

I am sure it's not a one man business. A gal took my order over thephone

[CHARLIE]

Has anybody tried this number yet ?

Byrne, Thomas
Westport, MA

(508) 324-9384



Comes up on superpages.com


Also, in Swansea, MA (few towns over), there's


Byrne, Thomas J Jr
Swansea, MA
(508) 673-7186


I just tried the first number. No answer

[charger08srt]

36 thanks guys for making me feel old.

exactly... but it's all good right:grin:

[RTChas]

can we get back on topic dont care how old you guys are in relation to the topic of this thread..

Yeah where the F%$# is this Tom and what the hell is he doing with my parts!
Did anyone near there shop drive by this weekend? I want out of this transaction and cant get thru to cancel CC company was no help to me cause no charge has been made! I still want the part but if I order it now "TOM" could come back and send out parts and charge me for it, then I could have restocking fees and have to dispute it all just alot of BS!:knockout:

[soccerbachelor]

How has this still not been resolved??? Has anyone driven by the facility?? This sucks, hope you get your stuff soon Charlie and others in the same boat.

[CHARLIE]

I just want to let you all know that I just recieved my check back, by mail from Tbyrne. I don't think it's been cash. I am assuming that means Tom is still involve in his business and that, at this time, can not fullfill his orders. If I got my chech back, I am assuming that everyone else that place and order and have not recieve their order yet will be taken care of.

I hope that will relief some tension and restored some faith regarding TByrne. I think he will do his best to make sure you guy wouldn't get screwed. Thanks Tom

[MR-SMITH]

I just want to let you all know that I just recieved my check back, by mail from Tbyrne. I don't think it's been cash. I am assuming that means Tom is still involve in his business and that, at this time, can not fullfill his orders. If I got my chech back, I am assuming that everyone else that place and order and have not recieve their order yet will be taken care of.

I hope that will relief some tension and restored some faith regarding TByrne. I think he will do his best to make sure you guy wouldn't get screwed. Thanks Tom
Did he mail the check back or was is returned as undeliverable?

[Mecha]

He knew exactly what he was doing.
taking orders at least up to Fed 14th.

you cant tell me he takes orders on the 14th and pulls the plug at a whim the next day.

there is some planning involved with certain things.

not to mention his posts on the Vette and GTO forums about avoiding getting served for divorce.

HE knew exactly WTF he was doing.

[Part Deux]

He knew exactly what he was doing.
taking orders at least up to Fed 14th.

you cant tell me he takes orders on the 14th and pulls the plug at a whim the next day.

there is some planning involved with certain things.

not to mention his posts on the Vette and GTO forums about avoiding getting served for divorce.

HE knew exactly WTF he was doing.

Talking about hiding assets, needing to hide for awhile, does not give me a strong sense of something that has a strong handle on his plans.

[DA X 6]

= the reason I went this route is because it was easier to hide it from my wife.


So, the money you hid from your wife was sent to TByrne, who's busy hiding it from HIS wife.

Congratulations, you've been hoisted with your own petard!

EDIT: I see you got your check back. WHEW!

[FLEX]

So, the money you hid from your wife was sent to TByrne, who's busy hiding it from HIS wife.

Congratulations, you've been hoisted with your own petard!

I believe this is what is commonly referred to as: "Poetic Justice" :nervous s

[HEMEEE]

I just want to let you all know that I just recieved my check back, by mail from Tbyrne. I don't think it's been cash. I am assuming that means Tom is still involve in his business and that, at this time, can not fullfill his orders. If I got my chech back, I am assuming that everyone else that place and order and have not recieve their order yet will be taken care of.

I hope that will relief some tension and restored some faith regarding TByrne. I think he will do his best to make sure you guy wouldn't get screwed. Thanks TomCharlie, thank you for this update, it (hopefully) confirms that Tbyrne is not ripping anyone off since it has been mentioned that he has also not charged credit cards for orders placed after a certain date as well. The fact that all ordering on his website has been disabled also makes it apparent that his mission is not to scam anyone.

Unfortunately, we don't know any more than any of you.
I have moved this from Tbyrne's forum to this section, where it will have more impact and cannot be removed except by staff. We do want to keep the thread open for updates, so we ask that you avoid inflammatory remarks, name-calling, etc. and keep all replies on topic.

Thank you-

[RTChas]

I just want to let you all know that I just recieved my check back, by mail from Tbyrne. I don't think it's been cash. I am assuming that means Tom is still involve in his business and that, at this time, can not fullfill his orders. If I got my chech back, I am assuming that everyone else that place and order and have not recieve their order yet will be taken care of.

I hope that will relief some tension and restored some faith regarding TByrne. I think he will do his best to make sure you guy wouldn't get screwed. Thanks Tom

Charlie, Thanx I feel better now.When did you place the order and send the check? That info might help set a time table for some of us.:)I made mine on the 11th got invoice same day :(

[Dan]

Charlie, thank you for this update, it (hopefully) confirms that Tbyrne is not ripping anyone off since it has been mentioned that he has also not charged credit cards for orders placed after a certain date as well. The fact that all ordering on his website has been disabled also makes it apparent that his mission is not to scam anyone.

Unfortunately, we don't know any more than any of you.
I have moved this from Tbyrne's forum to this section, where it will have more impact and cannot be removed except by staff. We do want to keep the thread open for updates, so we ask that you avoid inflammatory remarks, name-calling, etc. and keep all replies on topic.

Thank you-

Meanwhile those with giftcards continue to wait while their money is tied up...

[CHARLIE]

Did he mail the check back or was is returned as undeliverable?

Mailed it back. the envalope doesn't contain any kind of explaination, just my check.

[CHARLIE]

Charlie, Thanx I feel better now.When did you place the order and send the check? That info might help set a time table for some of us.:)I made mine on the 11th got invoice same day :(

I placed the order on 1-23-08. I am guessing it took 4-5 days to get there. so he probably recieved my check around the 28th unless it's a Sunday. I got my check back in my mail box yesterday, 2-25th. I hope this helps.:smoke:

[betta510]

http://reports.bosbbb.org/Boston/Public/Reports/BrandedReport.aspx?firm=82387
I don't know if this info is useful to anyone, but I got it anyway.

[mccrisco]

So does anyone know any more info on what's going on with Tbyrne?

[lanbo]

So does anyone know any more info on what's going on with Tbyrne?

I tried calling all the numbers again today thinking they might be back from "vacation" but still no luck.

[Rob@WretchedMS]

From ls1gto.com

Everybody is questioning about T Byrne and whether we are still in business anymore and to officially answer your question we are not. As many of you may know I do not usually post on the forums but after recieving emails from some friends in the business I felt compelled to post for two reasons. I will honestly not be back on the board after this.

I first want to apologize to anyone effected by our recent closure. There were a hand few of customers that were effected by the abrupt closer and I am truly sorry. Second, If Tom was out to intentionally "screw people" there were alot of backorder orders that could have been charged when we closed that were not. Not that this makes it any better for the customers that were affected but I had to make that point. What happened was unfortunate but I assure you it was not done maliciously. Sometimes things happen in life that cause us to make some difficult choices, I'm sure for him this was one of them.

I enjoyed the 11 years I was at T Byrne and have met and worked with some outstanding people. I made some friendships that will hopefully continue.

Take Care,
Carol
Time to lock the thread?

[TheGarageMaster]

Sad, he had a good rep and I think it did everyone right. Surprised he just didn't sell.

[charger08srt]

darn, he was one of the better vendors on here until this... hope everything works out for him. i don't know why it took this long for a brief explanation though.

[AWD_Gabe]

This is really terrible .... I used to refer and recommend TBYRNE to countless people ... now they just shut down with no warning ... terrible ....

[CHARGERTREV]

Something more happened...I feel bad for him.

[charger08srt]

Something more happened...I feel bad for him.

he's going thru a divorce from what i know

[Dan]

he's going thru a divorce from what i know

And he was suing his landscaper. Guy seems like a flake. I wish he'd pay back his giftcards that are now useless.

[Chargeit!]

I guess my 50$ gift certificate is no good either. :( But I dont feel anger.... anything can happen... time and unforseen occurance befall us all. Apparently he's going through a really rough time... divorce, business closing (there may be something we still dont know) I mean honestly.. I wouldnt be thinking of you guys first either if those things happened.... just my .02...

[goMANgo259]

wow i cant believe they are gone. i've still got a 100 dollar gift card! about a month or 2 ago i ALMOST sold it.... now i wish i had lol

[RTracer]

Dang, I have $150 in certs....crappola

[toxico]

Sharper Image filed for Chapter 11 not too long ago, and has suspended redemption of gift cards during restructuring. No, they aren't refundable.

What I'm saying is, this kind of thing happens all the time. Gift cards/certs have their drawbacks and some of you are feeling that as a result of all this. I found a store credit slip for CompUSA just yesterday. Looks like that's going in the trash.

[Fastmover]

I'm reading the thread to find out what's up and the TBYRNE advertising banner still appears at the top of the page. What's with that, admins?
Sorry for everyone who lost coin on the unexpected shutdown.

[CHARLIE]

From ls1gto.com


Time to lock the thread?

Thanks for posting this. I know a few members are affected by TByrne's sudden closing, but at least we know what's going on.
I am sure this haven't been easy for Tom to give up his business and life as he know it. He seems like an alright guy and I am sure he'll be back on his feet again. When he does, he may honor those with his unused gift cards.

[lanbo]

I guess the crappy thing on Tom's part is he KNEW he was closing, yet he posted (and it still says it) that the place is closed for vacation. So people that were waiting to call their credit card companies for charge backs and such in order to NOT hurt his reputation because he treated them well in the past are now screwed because they waited too long thinking he would be back from "vacation." Guess I'll have to try and sell this extra predator I have now and lose money on it. :(

[charger08srt]

I guess the crappy thing on Tom's part is he KNEW he was closing, yet he posted (and it still says it) that the place is closed for vacation. So people that were waiting to call their credit card companies for charge backs and such in order to NOT hurt his reputation because he treated them well in the past are now screwed because they waited too long thinking he would be back from "vacation." Guess I'll have to try and sell this extra predator I have now and lose money on it. :(

exactly, why wait this long to spill the beans:knockout:

[Part Deux]

I guess the crappy thing on Tom's part is he KNEW he was closing, yet he posted (and it still says it) that the place is closed for vacation. So people that were waiting to call their credit card companies for charge backs and such in order to NOT hurt his reputation because he treated them well in the past are now screwed because they waited too long thinking he would be back from "vacation." Guess I'll have to try and sell this extra predator I have now and lose money on it. :(

Seems to me, yours truly suggested exactly that, and I took some flack because people should "give the guy a chance".

[lanbo]

Seems to me, yours truly suggested exactly that, and I took some flack because people should "give the guy a chance".

Yeah, I know you did, and rightfully so it seems. I mainly didn't do it since I'd gotten great service in the past and I actually have an item that I can probably get most of what I paid for back on it...I just feel bad for the people that can't say that.

[SnakeStomper]

From my previous experience, Tbyrne didn't charge until something was shipped ... It's really ****ty if he charged anyone's cards without the intention of shipping it.

[t500hps]

From my previous experience, Tbyrne didn't charge until something was shipped ... It's really ****ty if he charged anyone's cards without the intention of shipping it.


From a past bad experience with an un-related vendor I was concerned and have asked this question....no one has come forward claiming this happened. (some have gift cards that are now worthless but that's it).

[t500hps]

Seems to me, yours truly suggested exactly that, and I took some flack because people should "give the guy a chance".

I raised a red flag the first couple days on LXforums and got "red beans" for bashing a trusted vendor on in the forums......guess I should go back and ask that member if he's going to re-imburse everyone with gift cards huh? :grin:

[charger08srt]

I raised a red flag the first couple days on LXforums and got "red beans" for bashing a trusted vendor on in the forums......guess I should go back and ask that member if he's going to re-imburse everyone with gift cards huh? :grin:

you should:smoke:

[Mecha]

i agree you should and get my bean back too lol..

[charger08srt]

why is tbyrne still on the vendor list... :dead:

[Mecha]

why is tbyrne still on the vendor list... :dead:


cause they are just on vacation LMAO

ok that was a joke...

[charger08srt]

cause they are just on vacation LMAO

ok that was a joke...

good one!:grin: permanent vacation

[charger08srt]

he should have had a going out of business sale... :smoke:

[Mecha]

fire sale?

[Chargeit!]

You guys are taking it personal... in the words of the immortal Tom Hagen to Sonny Corleone... 'It's just business Sonny.. not personal... just business.'

I know alot of you have hurt feelings in all this. But the fact is, he's running a business (used to)... Just like you wouldnt expect a large retailer (sharper image) to honor a gift card when they are under bankruptcy and dont have to. Im sure the guy feels bad about it... but he's got bigger fish to fry than making sure his 'chargerforums buddies' still think well of him when there is so much going on in his life right now.

If any of you have declared bankruptcy and had a debt wiped away.. did you feel bad for them? Better yet.. when things got turned around.. did you offer to pay the debt back.. just so they didnt think you were a bad guy? I'll answer for you... No.

Im not defending the guy, because it does suck. But it may be time to just give it up.

[charger08srt]

You guys are taking it personal... in the words of the immortal Tom Hagen to Sonny Corleone... 'It's just business Sonny.. not personal... just business.'

I know alot of you have hurt feelings in all this. But the fact is, he's running a business (used to)... Just like you wouldnt expect a large retailer (sharper image) to honor a gift card when they are under bankruptcy and dont have to. Im sure the guy feels bad about it... but he's got bigger fish to fry, than making sure his 'chargerforums buddies' still think well of him when there is so much going on in his life right now.

If any of you have declare bankruptcy and had a debt wiped away.. did you feel bad for them? Better yet.. when things got turned around.. did you offer to pay the debt back.. just so they didnt think you were a bad guy? I'll answer for you... No.

Im not defending the guy, because it does suck. But it may be time to just give it up.

we were just messing around... not like the guy showed anyone respect by leaving everyone in the dark about his going out of business

[Mecha]

There can not be any friends in business.
Business has no rooms for friends.

guys defended him because they got good deals and though he was "friends" of the LX crowd.

see my first statement.

[lanbo]

You guys are taking it personal... in the words of the immortal Tom Hagen to Sonny Corleone... 'It's just business Sonny.. not personal... just business.'

I know alot of you have hurt feelings in all this. But the fact is, he's running a business (used to)... Just like you wouldnt expect a large retailer (sharper image) to honor a gift card when they are under bankruptcy and dont have to. Im sure the guy feels bad about it... but he's got bigger fish to fry than making sure his 'chargerforums buddies' still think well of him when there is so much going on in his life right now.

If any of you have declared bankruptcy and had a debt wiped away.. did you feel bad for them? Better yet.. when things got turned around.. did you offer to pay the debt back.. just so they didnt think you were a bad guy? I'll answer for you... No.

Im not defending the guy, because it does suck. But it may be time to just give it up.

What you say has some truth to it, but I personally don't think bankruptcy should even be allowed or even an option for anyone. I've always had to pay my debts and have never tried to weasle out of anything (except housework that my wife tries to make me do). So, just saying, don't blame people that are getting screwed when they get angry. People don't expect to get screwed over (and they shouldn't have to), but it still happens. I'm not angry at Tom, but I can certainly see how and why a lot of people are. If Tom had wanted to, he could very well have charged cards and run, but from everything we've heard, he didn't do that and I'm proud of him for not doing that...I'm sure it was tempting. The only thing that frustrates me is what I said before: he knew he was going out of business, but just put that they were closed for vacation on his website leaving everyone wondering for a full 2 weeks. But, live and learn I guess. I wish Tom well and hope everything goes smoothly with his family problems. My wife keeps threatening to divorce me, but she won't actually do it cause she knows I'll just spend all my time and money on my charger and be happy, oh well. LOL. :grin: (Hope she doesn't read this :))

[Part Deux]

There can not be any friends in business.
Business has no rooms for friends.

guys defended him because they got good deals and though he was "friends" of the LX crowd.

see my first statement.

X2!!!!

My wife actually ended a friendship for someone that started working for her. She made sure the person up front knew that we would no longer be associating outside of work, and there would be no special favors.

[charger08srt]

X2!!!!

My wife actually ended a friendship for someone that started working for her. She made sure the person up front knew that we would no longer be associating outside of work, and there would be no special favors.

yeah, it depends on your position in the work place... i know in the military it's considered fratenization depending on the paygrades and what position you're in.

[lanbo]

X2!!!!

My wife actually ended a friendship for someone that started working for her. She made sure the person up front knew that we would no longer be associating outside of work, and there would be no special favors.

Yeah, my wife used to work with my sister and when things got slow and they let my wife go instead of the newest girl, things got pretty nasty. We later found out the new girl was spreading lies about my wife which was the main reason she was let go, and my sister and the owner found out later they were lies and fired the chick, but the damage was already done and they didn't even confront my wife to find out if the lies were true or not. It sucks though, because I have a couple of friends that would work out perfectly at my job, but I refuse to let my boss hire them in case something goes sour. Life sucks sometimes, but you gotta get through it and then die. Cheers. :grin:

[foxfire]

Charger07awd, how much money does Tom owe you? You have an opinion about everything don't you. Give the guy some time and a little peace. I guess you have never had any problems! Oh yes, thats right, you went in the Navy at 17 and somebody's been telling you what to do since then.If the admins think this is a personal attack, so be it, put me on a time out.No one here knows the whole story with TByrne, so give it a rest and stop kicking a guy when he's down!

[charger08srt]

Charger07awd, how much money does Tom owe you? You have an opinion about everything don't you. Give the guy some time and a little peace. I guess you have never had any problems! Oh yes, thats right, you went in the Navy at 17 and somebody's been telling you what to do since then.If the admins think this is a personal attack, so be it, put me on a time out.No one here knows the whole story with TByrne, so give it a rest and stop kicking a guy when he's down!

tom doesn't owe me anything, just giving my 2 cents...like everyone else. i'm gonna ignore your comment but thanks for the lecture...mr. almighty one!:silenced:

[FLEX]

Sure, we don’t know for sure what happened. But since Tom decided to post some very specific references to what was going on in his lif