People relationships (merged)

[NoHemi]

Now that I got your attention, I'm hoping to get some adult responses.

A man (who has the mental abilities of an 10 year old) has no family. They all died. His friend's family moved into his house and is living off of him. I mean living off of him. He also has a few other people living off of him too. I mean $$$, computers, large LCD TVs (more than one), etc. You get the point. This man probably feels he need to be kind so he is not alone. Again, there is no family.

I'm related (to the family this is living off of him in his house). He considers me his "family" too. I live out of state, and get's nothing from him at all (Christmas gift-value less than $100) when I come to visit. That's all ever. Don't need it. I'm ok.

On the flip side, if he did not have money, or if the roles were reverse, I'm sure no one would give the time of day.

He spends $20K a month (on him and everyone a month). No joke.

NOW. There is talk of selling his stocks. The stocks in one company that his (dead) mother bought years ago. The stocks suck now compare to 3-4 years ago. Today it's worth 36 million dollars. The selling process will take about 6 months.

There is talk of him giving each "family" one million dollars. If that was the case, he would only be out $5-$7 million. Depends on if he count spouses. I'm consider "family." No big deal. He still got $30 more that he will "save up." Again, this guy (mid 40s) has the brain capacity of a 10 year old. His lawyer handles things for him. All he get's is a check each month.

I do well. Working and have my own thing. My own cars, my own house. We all love money. A new Daytona Charger looks good. But there is something wrong with this. Wife love to have it. I'm sure everyone would, especially the "family" that is living off of him now. If I could, I would tell him NO. Then eveyone would hate me. I would bet those "friends" who is consider as "family" would want to keep me quiet. Everyone who is "looking out for him" telling him what he should or should not do is living off of him. Honestly, NO ONE has a job. Actaully only one even attempts to work. I think selling his stocks (last pot of $$$) is a big mistake.

On the flip side, if he does not take care of them, they will hit me up. Again, no one works or have any money (it's really that sad). So I'm greatful for him taking care of them.

I'm not sure if I have a question, or just a bitch session.

Has anyone been in similar situation where is right to be the "bad guy?"

[birddog]

Me... I'd just stay out of it. Maintain your friendship with the guy, but mind your own business. It is very difficult to do -- especially when people are taking advantage of him. But, unless he is retarded* or something, it is his choice to give away or keep his assets as he choses; even if he is making stupid decisions -- his choice.

*That sounds cold -- but that is exactly what I mean -- if he is incapable of making decisions because of a serious handicap (more serious than just plain stupidity)!

[birddog]

One more caveat -- If he asks for you advise, you may give it, but proceed with caution. Often when people ask for advise, what they really want is affirmation of the decisions that have already made. If you can't do that, you may find that they really weren't seeking your advise.

(humorous note: you can see this on this forum all the time. Someone asks "What do you think about XXX that I did to my car". If you indicate that you don't approve... you find that they really didn't want you opinion -- they wanted affirmation.)

[christianjax]

I think I'm realated to him too.:yes: :laugh:

[Part Deux]

I'll 2nd the stay out of it. there is nothing good that will come from this.

[NYT]

i would steer clear of all this. there is a special place in hell dedicated to those to take advantage of the weak.

[1Badass R/T]

I don't agree with taking someone's money and i also agree that you should stay out..

However with that being said... he can't take it to the grave with him.. and if he does.. the government will soak it up. Chances are he'll will it to the family anyways.

If you stay out of the day to day drama and run your life the way you see fit and you get a check in the mail, then cash it.. it was a genuine gift. If you go to him and "scandal" the money... that is wrong...

hope i made sense of what i'm thinking ...

[RedAlert]

His lawyer handles things for him.

Sounds like this lawyer needs the boot if he's aware this is all going on.

[jarpod]

I agree with every1 here! stay out of it.... but..... here´s a thought..... get the million and use it in case he needs it if the time comes and he didnt use it then the money is for you to keep!
just be like a "temporary bank for him"
hope I made sense

[birddog]

If the guy is really incompetent, you could seek to have the state declare him as such. I'm not sure, but I assume they would name someone his guardian.

But believe me, nobody (the guy -- the family) nobody will feel any luv for you if you choose this route.

And -- if the lawyer is handling things and the guy is just getting a check each month. Are you sure he actually has the ability to sell his assets -- or is it "just talk". Perhaps the guy's family did already make the lawyer a trustee of the mans assets before their death. (My mom and dad did that for a handicapped brother of mine)

Which brings me back to my original thought -- steer clear.

[mywhitecharger]

i would steer clear of all this. there is a special place in hell dedicated to those to take advantage of the weak.

I could not agree more.


My Great Aunt and Uncle died within 4 months of eachother. My familiy and I were very close to them as my Grandparents had died when I was very young.

My Great Aunt and Uncle had a lot of money and one of our other "family" members was the executress of the estate. To this day I have never seen such childish behavior by grown people.

I decided to stay out of it to an extent. I know a lot of the money they had they wanted to go to the church, and it did.

Like NYT said - there is a special place in hell dedicated to those to take advantage of the weak. They may live a little easier now at the expense of someone else, but it will, I strongly believe, catch up to them at some point.

Do what's right in your heart.

[Crazy8]

Can't agree with mywhitecharger more. Going through the same stuff with my family right now. My parents and my wife's mother and step-father were all killed in a tractor trailer accident at the end of October. Dealing with goofy stuff with my wife's sister (who is the co-executor of my wife's parents Trust). My wife and I were going to be the Plan Administrators for the wrongful death suits...until my wife's sister thought she should do it. To keep my wife and I out of having a "conflict of interest" (according to my wife's sister), I am going to talk to my brother to take on the role of Plan Administrator for our parents side of the suits. This way, he can yell and scream at her...and it won't affect my wife's relationship with her sister. So...if you have the opportunity to stay out of it...I would leave it alone. If you are concerned about the money...when you get the check, put it in a money market account and leave it there.

[mywhitecharger]

Can't agree with mywhitecharger more. Going through the same stuff with my family right now. My parents and my wife's mother and step-father were all killed in a tractor trailer accident at the end of October. Dealing with goofy stuff with my wife's sister (who is the co-executor of my wife's parents Trust). My wife and I were going to be the Plan Administrators for the wrongful death suits...until my wife's sister thought she should do it. To keep my wife and I out of having a "conflict of interest" (according to my wife's sister), I am going to talk to my brother to take on the role of Plan Administrator for our parents side of the suits. This way, he can yell and scream at her...and it won't affect my wife's relationship with her sister. So...if you have the opportunity to stay out of it...I would leave it alone. If you are concerned about the money...when you get the check, put it in a money market account and leave it there.

I am very sorry to hear about that. That is a very tragic accident.... sorry.

[NoHemi]

If the guy is really incompetent, you could seek to have the state declare him as such. I'm not sure, but I assume they would name someone his guardian.

But believe me, nobody (the guy -- the family) nobody will feel any luv for you if you choose this route.

And -- if the lawyer is handling things and the guy is just getting a check each month. Are you sure he actually has the ability to sell his assets -- or is it "just talk". Perhaps the guy's family did already make the lawyer a trustee of the mans assets before their death. (My mom and dad did that for a handicapped brother of mine)

Which brings me back to my original thought -- steer clear.

Lot's of good advise, I think I just need to hear it. I tend not to discuss this with anyone, where as others are broadcasting it like the news "hey.... I may get a million dollars." Using this to post to respond:

- I don't know the exact condition he has. But he can not get a drivers license. His distance aunt in Canada found out his mom died, and decided to "claim him." Or more like "claim him money." He didn't want any part of it. There is nothing "wrong" with him. And there there's something not right. It's not irresponsible or foolish. It's like the mind hasn't fully grown up.

- As for the lawyer, it's not their "original" lawyer. He died too. I guess when one get's old, eveyone starts to "die." It's the lawyer's firm handling things. So he just became a case file, instead of a "family friend" that look after his best interest.

- Yes, he has the ability to sell assets and borrow money if he wishes.

[FlipFlopNinja]

One more caveat -- If he asks for you advise, you may give it, but proceed with caution. Often when people ask for advise, what they really want is affirmation of the decisions that have already made. If you can't do that, you may find that they really weren't seeking your advise.

(humorous note: you can see this on this forum all the time. Someone asks "What do you think about XXX that I did to my car". If you indicate that you don't approve... you find that they really didn't want you opinion -- they wanted affirmation.)

x2 Good advice Birddog.

[1Badass R/T]

Another way to look at things is that by the way it sounds the "family" will not stop and they will spend all of his money. You can take a million or so from him. Properly invest it... make tons of money off of it. Then ten years from now... when he is broke and doesn't have any more money and the "family" moves on.. you can invite him into your house or maybe buy him a nice townhouse, or pay for him to go into a nice place to care for him. and then give him some money as he is getting now.

you have 1 million dollars for however long it takes for him to go broke... 10 -15 years.... all of your financial problems should be over... meanwhile never touching the million... hell you could give it back to him 10-15 years down the road.

in this example... your the hero

[TBYDaytona40]

WHere the heck is the lawyer and the state? If he is not competant to make these decision, he should not be making them? SHeeesh, I have a spare room, he can come stay with us in Vegas. We'll charger him $300 a month for room and board. But if he is allergic to dogs or cats he might sneeze alot so you warn him first.

[Crazy8]

I am very sorry to hear about that. That is a very tragic accident.... sorry.

Thanks. Yeah, my father, mother-in-law and step-father-in-law were all killed instantly. My mother lived for 13 days, before passing from complications due to her injuries. It has been a really bad Lifetime movie.

Here is a link to a couple of articles:
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ/MGArticle/WSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353328666
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArti cle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353443641&path=!localnews!crimesafety!&s=1041611505007

The guy that was driving the tractor trailer was a real piece of work. Independent trucker, insurance revoked back in Feb 2007, has 2 felony convictions (sexual offence against person 12 year old or older...and Grand Theft of over $10k)...makes the nightmare even worse!!

Sorry about the hi-jack...back to the original programming...

[mywhitecharger]

Thanks. Yeah, my father, mother-in-law and step-father-in-law were all killed instantly. My mother lived for 13 days, before passing from complications due to her injuries. It has been a really bad Lifetime movie.

Here is a link to a couple of articles:
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ/MGArticle/WSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353328666
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArti cle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353443641&path=!localnews!crimesafety!&s=1041611505007

The guy that was driving the tractor trailer was a real piece of work. Independent trucker, insurance revoked back in Feb 2007, has 2 felony convictions (sexual offence against person 12 year old or older...and Grand Theft of over $10k)...makes the nightmare even worse!!

Sorry about the hi-jack...back to the original programming...

Those articles bring a tear to my eyes. I couldn't imagine. I'm just as close with my in-laws as I am with my parents. Heck, they even lived with us for a bit :)

That POS truck driver will get what's coming to him while in prison:love: . Best of luck to you and your family getting through the hard times.

You sound like a very strong person - I'll send a prayer up for you and your family. :pray: :pray:

[NoHemi]

I just read the articles.

Crazy8 - sorry for your lost.

[sound&security]

your family is going to burn in hell. and the end is right around the corner for them. sooner or later the money is going to stop and they will be flat on their a$$'es. they sound like a bunch of white trash to me. i would stay out of it. BUT it sounds like you feel bad for the guy and what your family is doing to him. this is just me but i would call his lawyer and drop a dime on your family as to want they are doing. do you have any respect for them after seeing what they are doing to this guy? they dont respect him or them self's!!! you have a job/they dont. you have a heart from what i see in your post/they dont. they are garbage/you are at war with your self as to what to do. WHO cares if they are mad at you-i'd do the right thing and call some one. [the state-his lawyer-the police] i think thats the right thing. BUT it's up to you to do what you fell is right. have you tryed to talk to your family and tell them what you think of their action's.

[Part Deux]

Can't agree with mywhitecharger more. Going through the same stuff with my family right now. My parents and my wife's mother and step-father were all killed in a tractor trailer accident at the end of October. Dealing with goofy stuff with my wife's sister (who is the co-executor of my wife's parents Trust). My wife and I were going to be the Plan Administrators for the wrongful death suits...until my wife's sister thought she should do it. To keep my wife and I out of having a "conflict of interest" (according to my wife's sister), I am going to talk to my brother to take on the role of Plan Administrator for our parents side of the suits. This way, he can yell and scream at her...and it won't affect my wife's relationship with her sister. So...if you have the opportunity to stay out of it...I would leave it alone. If you are concerned about the money...when you get the check, put it in a money market account and leave it there.

Really sorry to hear of your losses. One family death is hard to deal with, but both of your parents is inconceivable :(

Deaths have a way of bringing out the worst in people.

[Aremel]

For the OP, you already know what's right and that's clear by your post. However I can understand the frustration. Just try to forget about it, really.

For the other guy, what a sad story and turn of events. My dad's family came from Ashe County, N.C. and started there before the revolutionary war. I've never been there, but want to go back and do some genealogy research. I read some of the newspapers from there now and then.

Sorry for the hijack...

[WitchyWndy]

For the other guy, what a sad story and turn of events. My dad's family came from Ashe County, N.C. and started there before the revolutionary war. I've never been there, but want to go back and do some genealogy research. I read some of the newspapers from there now and then.

Sorry for the hijack...

Ok... adding to the hijack... I have done genealogy research over the last 3 years and have subscribed to ancestry.com. If you would like some help, I can look up some stuff for you. Please PM me.

When I started my genealogy research, I had only my great grandparents to start with... using the different sites I have been able to go back 3 generations from that....Very cool stuff!!

Getting back on topic... NoHemi... I understand your dilema... if you do nothing.. then your relatives are not knocking at your door.

But I have to say.. one of my children is a special needs child, if I had not left a will to specify a guardian I would hope that someone would step in and petition a court to do so to protect her....... Since you are not looking to get anything... you could be that someone...

That would mean that you would have to be able to tell you family members to become self-sufficient and not look to you... very difficult, but IMO.... something that you need to do...

Good Luck.. Not an easy situation... but please feel free to PM me with genealogy help... I love this stuff as a hobby!!

[jmckenzie]

sounds like someone needs to file for guardianship to help this man, he needs someone to advise him & keep him from throwing away his money

[NoHemi]

have you tryed to talk to your family and tell them what you think of their action's.

It's one of those where one complains about how ther other is taking advantage of this guy. And at the same time, they are doing the same thing too. It's just aweful to hear anything in conversation because it never ends. They are living for free. Got money to pay debts. Got a new car. You figure that's it..... No, now there are more bills that they kept it a secret until the lawyer start to call. And finally confess that there were more bills. Sorry, I just venting. Thanks for reading. I guess this is my outlet.

I almost hate going back for Christmas. It's sad to see. Yes, I once had respect for them. It's not about hard luck and getting help. I'm all for helping people. I can't even say what this is all about. It just never ends. How do I let my kids expose to stuff like this?

[NoHemi]

Getting back on topic... NoHemi... I understand your dilema... if you do nothing.. then your relatives are not knocking at your door.



Exactly. I once had to fork out $3,400 to keep one out of jail. How can you let a 50 year old woman even go through that?

They lost their home (due to not paying the lease), and was suppose to move in with me because there are NO choices. So I'm thankful for this guy. And this guy does not think like most guys. If this guy was 100% "normal" he would have said GTFO a long time ago, even for a nice guy. I fear one day he just may do that.... Then................:cry:

[zoomzoom1]

Ok... adding to the hijack... I have done genealogy research over the last 3 years and have subscribed to ancestry.com. If you would like some help, I can look up some stuff for you. Please PM me.

When I started my genealogy research, I had only my great grandparents to start with... using the different sites I have been able to go back 3 generations from that....Very cool stuff!!

Getting back on topic... NoHemi... I understand your dilema... if you do nothing.. then your relatives are not knocking at your door.

But I have to say.. one of my children is a special needs child, if I had not left a will to specify a guardian I would hope that someone would step in and petition a court to do so to protect her....... Since you are not looking to get anything... you could be that someone...

That would mean that you would have to be able to tell you family members to become self-sufficient and not look to you... very difficult, but IMO.... something that you need to do...

Good Luck.. Not an easy situation... but please feel free to PM me with genealogy help... I love this stuff as a hobby!!

My son is also special need. Hit by a car when 9yrs old. He's 26 now, Mind of a 9 yr old. TBI(tramatic brain injury, closed head) When he turned 18 I petetioned the court to appoint a guardian ad litem. Who works only for his needs.He has all the money he needs but someone watchs it for him, its in a trust.The court has checks on the dispersments.

[Hemiready]

in the past year I have had the opportunity to get my hands on approximately 1.5 million dollars for my family and (while it would have been a harder fight) some 4 million dollars in a second issue. This money would have been divided several ways.
However, in both cases (way too lengthy to go into here) there were moral issues involved and even though we were dead right in the former matter it was not the intent of the person who had the money (in both cases) that it wind up in my family's hands. Legally, we were on really strong ground.
I took the high road in both cases, made sure the money went where it was intended to go and I sleep just fine. Blood money is never a good thing.
That being said it sounds like there are some real bloodsuckers attatched to this relative. I hope his attorney is truly looking out for his best interests if he is mentally incompetent.

[Hemiready]

It's one of those where one complains about how ther other is taking advantage of this guy. And at the same time, they are doing the same thing too. It's just aweful to hear anything in conversation because it never ends. They are living for free. Got money to pay debts. Got a new car. You figure that's it..... No, now there are more bills that they kept it a secret until the lawyer start to call. And finally confess that there were more bills. Sorry, I just venting. Thanks for reading. I guess this is my outlet.

I almost hate going back for Christmas. It's sad to see. Yes, I once had respect for them. It's not about hard luck and getting help. I'm all for helping people. I can't even say what this is all about. It just never ends. How do I let my kids expose to stuff like this?
I do feel for you. As I noted above I just went through some stuff not exactly like this but similar in some ways. It was 1.5 years of almost daily calls to my dad to try and protect him from a predatory stepbrother who is by the way a lawyer. Could have buried him (the stepson) and left him with nothing from his mom's estate but we didn't.
Money brings out the animal in people. It is ugly business your relatives are involved in. Don't get jealous and stick to your own morals. Bad money has a way of taking the soul out of the people who grab it - unless they had no sould to begin with.
And by God don't let your kids see this stuff or hear what is going on - or if you do it let them see how you conduct yourself and maybe they'll learn a great life lesson.

[Hemiready]

Thanks. Yeah, my father, mother-in-law and step-father-in-law were all killed instantly. My mother lived for 13 days, before passing from complications due to her injuries. It has been a really bad Lifetime movie.

Here is a link to a couple of articles:
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ/MGArticle/WSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353328666
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArti cle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353443641&path=!localnews!crimesafety!&s=1041611505007

The guy that was driving the tractor trailer was a real piece of work. Independent trucker, insurance revoked back in Feb 2007, has 2 felony convictions (sexual offence against person 12 year old or older...and Grand Theft of over $10k)...makes the nightmare even worse!!

Sorry about the hi-jack...back to the original programming...
Teriblbe story. My heart goes out to you and your family. They sound like they were wonderful people.

[NoHemi]

*First, I'm talking about a professional massage. Not the kinky stuff.*

Have any of you had a massage by a female massue? For no reason, all my massages have been done by men in the past. That's the way they "assigned it." However, this time, due to a change in schedule, I had a female massue.

I felt it to be more sensual, kind of a strange feeling because as a married man, here is another woman touching me. So in some ways, it felt a bit more tense. At times, it did get a bit close for comfort, where as a male massue would stay away all together. It's more like a male massue does the job, but I enjoy the process more with a female massue.

Would I ask for her again? Yes.

Can some of you share your massage experiences?

On a side note: I wonder at a massage spa, are most of their customers men or women. And I wonder the age group of the customer. Now for my illusion of grander. I'm in good shape physically. Workout, weights, etc. Do massue see customers as a slab of meat, or are they more "human?" Honestly, I think she had a gleem in her eye, and seem shy about making eye contract afterwards.

[soccerbachelor]

I've never had a male massue so I don't know the difference, the most recent I was in Cyprus getting off of 45 days out to sea so it didn't matter what she did it felt right but I too am married so I felt guilty even though there were other people in the room and I did nothing wrong, it was just cool and very relaxing.

[NoHemi]

I too am married so I felt guilty even though there were other people in the room and I did nothing wrong,

Ok, glad to hear this feeling is common.

[soccerbachelor]

Yeah breathe easier, I'm so used to my wife's touch anything else is just weird, lol.

[CHARLIE]

I have alway had massages by females. I don't think I would feel comfortable at all if I got a message by a man.

[soccerbachelor]

I have alway had massages by females. I don't think I would feel comfortable at all if I got a message by a man.

Same here I'm not into that man on man love or touching.

[blairian]

Never had a massage but I'm thinking about getting one, I'm a single man myself so need to worry about that...

But I can definitely say that I wouldn't want a man :eek:

[CHARLIE]

Same here I'm not into that man on man love or touching.

Yep, I would insist on a massage by a female. If they can't, i'll just change doctors:grin:

[charger08srt]

Never had a massage but I'm thinking about getting one, I'm a single man myself so need to worry about that...

But I can definitely say that I wouldn't want a man :eek:

yeah, i definitely wouldn't want a guy giving me a massage:sick: ... my fiancee hooks me up though:grin:

[MagnesiumPearlR/t]

id say i would have to agree with not wanting a man as a masseuse, but im not a homophobe so as long as the dude was professional it wouldn't be an issue, but if he crossed the line, well, he would be the one needing a massage after the beating he would get, but all in all, Man, Woman, a massage is a massage any way you look at it, For EX. if you need a physical from your doctor...you need to give the ol turn you head and cough right? well im sure some of us have female doctors and some have male doctors, would you not want your male doctor touching the no no area? No. id rather have the chick do it, but, its all business, its when they want to mix business with pleasure, thats when you have to draw the line IMO.

[charger08srt]

id say i would have to agree with not wanting a man as a masseuse, but im not a homophobe so as long as the dude was professional it wouldn't be an issue, but if he crossed the line, well, he would be the one needing a massage after the beating he would get, but all in all, Man, Woman, a massage is a massage any way you look at it, For EX. if you need a physical from your doctor...you need to give the ol turn you head and cough right? well im sure some of us have female doctors and some have male doctors, would you not want your male doctor touching the no no area? No. id rather have the chick do it, but, its all business, its when they want to mix business with pleasure, thats when you have to draw the line IMO.

yeah i understand the male doctor thing... i actually prefer a male doctor over a woman doctor but the massage thing is a different story

[SupremeG]

The first time I had a massage was by a female student, one of the local colleges has a massuse course and the way the students learn is from practicing on the paying public. The student practices on the person and the person gets a massage.

[MagnesiumPearlR/t]

yeah i understand the male doctor thing... i actually prefer a male doctor over a woman doctor but the massage thing is a different story

yeah i hear ya...i was just trying to make a generalization.

[Challenger Lover]

My ex's have given me massages, I never had a professional one, I would like to one day.
I rather have a woman, and all my doctors are woman too. Not that I swing that way (meow) No NO NO, but I feel more comfortable.

[Ksleigh]

I get a massage every month or so. When i go i request a female. I'm not a homophobe but i dont want a guys hands rubbing me down with oil. Not thats its wrong for a guy to massage you, but to me it would freak me out a little bit. I dont get weird either from another female rubbing me down thats not my girl. My girl puts no effort into my massages and i need a professional.

[Crazy Charger SRT-8]

Ive only had a female so I don't know how it would feel to have a man do it. But I knowingly pick a woman all the time. But, all in all I feel I can relax more with a woman than a man.

[momoney4sho]

a female is the only way i would go

[Aremel]

Geez, I need to get out more. Never had one. Well, except for physical therapy on the knees but not quite the same thing...

[ChargerSXT]

My wife and I used to go in every month or so to a place in Ghent (VA) to get a couples massage. I was worried at first that I'd be uncomfortable...but that didn't last long. Every time we'd go, my wife would tell the gal (we requested the same ones everytime), that she was the only other woman who could make me moan like that. :D My gal left about a year ago, and I haven't been back. Luckily for me, she's back, and my wife and I have an appointment on Monday for our Valentine's Day present to each other. :D

[NoHemi]

Also, what is/was your comfort level? Completely disrobe or in your underwear? She instructed me to be at my comfort level.

This time (with the female massue) I stayed in my underwear. Just feel more secured that way. Just in case. Plus I was afraid what she might think if I was completely disrobed. I shouldn't be, but I do.

When I had the male massue, they all say to be completely disrobed. Again, they never work close to "the area." And man on man stuff don't work for me either, so I don't have to worry about it.

[Ron380]

One of my martial-arts seminars was 5 days long. On the 4th day, one of our classes was on Shiatsu massage and there were only 5 ladies in a class of 40. By that time though, it really didn't matter who did the massage so long as the pain and soreness went away! :grin:

[NoHemi]

- Pre WWII era
- 1950s
- 1960s
- 1970s
- 1980s
- 1990s
- Post 2000
- Today

I normally would say women from the 1970s were the most attractive. Mostly because I'm generally turned off by plastic surgeries, or other enhancements, both major or minor, that is popular today. In search of perfection, the natural beauty of a women is lost. Sometimes women destroy their natural beauty. The clothing and style emphases sexuality, without just letting it all hang out or looking like a used whore on drugs. The 80s and 90s is second in my opion. But I'm not a fan of the big hair.

I was only a few years old in the 1970s. So I find it surprising that I perfer the look back then.

[best3175]

I liked them back before they had pockets in which to put money.

[cmooremax]

I liked them back before they had pockets in which to put money.

LMAO:lol: :lol: :lol:

[MR-SMITH]

I like them now cause round butts are cool. I am a fanny man.

[pikapp]

I liked them back before they had pockets in which to put money.

x2 LMAO!!! As for my answer to the OP, I'm non-discriminatory... I just love women period.

[cmooremax]

as am i. you know what, the next gen is going to really be something. not to sound like chester the molester, but i remember the girls when i was growing up and they were nowhere near todays.

[TopBanana107]

I'm partial to those born in the '60s...I myself was born in '74.

[CHARLIE]

I am partial women from 80's era, although i like the clean shave look of the women of the late 90s.

[hiDes]

Anytime in B.C. was good.

[TopBanana107]

Anytime in B.C. was good.

LMAO...when they had mustaches and beards??? Yeah, ok! :grin:

[FLEX]

Well...



<----------------I like women that look like this :D

[cmooremax]

who doesn't? no disrespect

[CHARLIE]

Well...



<----------------I like women that look like this :D

Flex scoring more brownie points.:grin: ^^^^^^

[hiDes]

Flex scoring more brownie points.:grin: ^^^^^^


:yes: As usual. :lol:

[REB]

The Married man's answer - "I think women are most attractive at whatever age my wife is at....." REB's personal answer as well!


The Single man's answer - " There's a 'best-by' date?"


The confirmed bachelor's answer - "What are women?"


The Modern answer - "Any woman that makes above 6 figures a year...."


BTW, you got a lot of guts, a masochistic streak, or just wanted to get a whole lot of guys in trouble.....


REB

[skeletonizer]

Any decade that Audrey Hepburn was alive in. No woman before, since, or in the future could ever hope to compete.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb217/skeletonized/vtl_40.jpg

[MR-SMITH]

Yeah I couldnt have lived back when pubic hair on a woman was popular.

[LRBaLLa00]

Yeah I couldnt have lived back when pubic hair on a woman was popular.

lol

[REB]

Yeah I couldnt have lived back when pubic hair on a woman was popular.

Women have pubic hair? I thought that was just us.....


Thank GOD for the 80s, the thong bikini (and the bikini wax), and cheap disposable razors....


REB

[TopBanana107]

What's wrong with pubic hair on a lady?!?:grin: :knockout: :knockout:

[cmooremax]

get one caught in your throat. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[TopBanana107]

get one caught in your throat. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:knockout: Has never happened and I hope I just didn't jinx myself on that one! i hope this doesn't pop into my head the next time I head "downtown"! I just couldn't imagine any explanation for bursting out laughing in the middle of doing this! Damn you, I say!:grin:

[Black Bullet]

1950's

Should do a poll on this, would be fun

[FistFullofDollars]

Today, they dress scandalous nowadays, lovin it

[Nightops]

I liked them back before they had pockets in which to put money.
I think they have allways had a pocket that makes money dissapear.

[cmooremax]

:knockout: Has never happened and I hope I just didn't jinx myself on that one! i hope this doesn't pop into my head the next time I head "downtown"! I just couldn't imagine any explanation for bursting out laughing in the middle of doing this! Damn you, I say!:grin:
:lol: :lol: you def will now
Today, they dress scandalous nowadays, lovin it

i will admit that most of the girls that i'm seeing are younger than i, but the whole scandelous thing is a problem. when you can't go out in public without someone trying to cop a feel and then drama erupts. i was out this weekend with one and she wasn't dolled up, she has a natuarl look to her that works. she was wearing a wifebeater and sometight jeans and out of nowhere she gets pissed. i am about 5' away and i can't tell what she is saying but this ahole tries to choke her. i didn't even make it over there before she had this guy on his a$$ looking up and stupid. you got to love a 110 lb woman that can take care of herself. although she did hog all the fun, i just got to kick him while he was down before his escort out.

[Challenger Lover]

I'm partial to those born in the '60s...I myself was born in '74.

IM a 60's girl ;)

get one caught in your throat. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

LMAO....... you know this statement is going to pop in your head at the wrong time, you know that right? LOL



I would say the woman from the 20's - 40's were alot classer. Just the way they handle themselfs to there dress.
The girls now a days are out of hand, I hate to see what happens in the next 20 years.

As for me I like the 60-70 flower child look with bell bottoms and go-go boots.

[theicedmaiden]

its a tie between the 20's when they obeyed the man and back in the cavemen days. bash em over the head with a club drag em home **** em then throw em out (the typical 18 year old boy's answer)

[cmooremax]

IM a 60's girl ;)

As for me I like the 60-70 flower child look with bell bottoms and go-go boots.

its picture time, picture time, everyone loves picture time:yes:

[Challenger Lover]

its a tie between the 20's when they obeyed the man and back in the cavemen days. bash em over the head with a club drag em home **** em then throw em out (the typical 18 year old boy's answer)

Thats when the men were real men, they had to take care of the whole clan, kill for food and territory now a days most men a lazy. They dont want to work, dont want to learn how to cook, to take any care of themselfs. Always running home to mommy and daddy.
*** You asked for it!!!!

[Challenger Lover]

its picture time, picture time, everyone loves picture time:yes:

Yeah, okay cool aid, theres enough pix of me on here...

[theicedmaiden]

Thats when the men were real men, they had to take care of the whole clan, kill for food and territory now a days most men a lazy. They dont want to work, dont want to learn how to cook, to take any care of themselfs. Always running home to mommy and daddy.
*** You asked for it!!!!

i know... we got lazy. especially me.

[Challenger Lover]

i know... we got lazy. especially me.

Least your honest...
I could have went on and on

[Aremel]

Yeah, okay cool aid, theres enough pix of me on here...

Where? I just see that scary one where your pupil is a skull.

[Challenger Lover]

Where? I just see that scary one where your pupil is a skull.

There's a bunch floating around, but you can click where it says Challenger Lover and there's a small one in my profile, or you can view my myspace page.

I dont see any of your pix's

[Aremel]

Ah hah! Not bad for 100 years old.


And yes, you're right. No pics of me...

[NoHemi]

1950's

Should do a poll on this, would be fun

I wanted to. I didn't know how to make a poll. Show me where to look.

[ChargerChick]

I think the most attractive women were born in 1961. ;)

[Challenger Lover]

I think the most attractive women were born in 1961. ;)


2X on that one chick'a :D

[TopBanana107]

IM a 60's girl ;)


Yes, yes you are...:grin:

[TopBanana107]

I think the most attractive women were born in 1961. ;)

...or '62.

*Hi honey...look what I wrote about you*

*What? I gave away your age...you didn't want me to do THAT?*

*Please forgive me honey...I was only saying the most beautiful lady was born in '62...* :grin:

Man, I barely avoided the doghouse there!:knockout:

[ChargerChick]

2X on that one chick'a :D

http://th270.photobucket.com/albums/jj106/MaPetite225/smilies/th_hi5.gif (http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi270.photobucket.com%2Falbums% 2Fjj106%2FMaPetite225%2Fsmilies%2Fhi5.gif&searchTerm=high five smiley&pageOffset=3)

[PlumCrazyDaytona]

All women, I only have a preferrence to those that like me

[Challenger Lover]

http://th270.photobucket.com/albums/jj106/MaPetite225/smilies/th_hi5.gif (http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi270.photobucket.com%2Falbums% 2Fjj106%2FMaPetite225%2Fsmilies%2Fhi5.gif&searchTerm=high five smiley&pageOffset=3)

LOL...... I like that!

I want a vette of the year I was born.

[MrDolomite]

WWII era, when clothes and makeup and hair were classy, not trampy.

Think Gwen Stefani in the video for "Don't Speak" (video link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=welnlg3svTw)) and Christina Aguilera in "Candyman" (video link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4kR8OQCrlQ))

[HornedWildebeast]

Well since I wasn't alive anytime before the 90's, I guess more recently for me.

[ChargerChick]

All women, I only have a preferrence to those that like me

I like ya. ;)

[pikapp]

Well since I wasn't alive anytime before the 90's, I guess more recently for me.

Holy Crap, are you even old enough to drive a charger???

[Challenger Lover]

Holy Crap, are you even old enough to drive a charger???

Barely.......... he doesnt know this, but he's my little jailbait pet.

[pikapp]

Barely.......... he doesnt know this, but he's my little jailbait pet.

LMAO!!!!!:grin: :grin: :grin:

[TopBanana107]

Barely.......... he doesnt know this, but he's my little jailbait pet.

:knockout: :knockout: :knockout:

[HornedWildebeast]

You guys are mean.

[Ron380]

What decade do you find women most attractive?

Every decade I've been alive, so far... hopefully I'll keep finding them attractive for many more decades, too! :grin:

:D

[Crazy Charger SRT-8]

I think the most attractive women were born in 1961. ;)

that's a year after my mom was born :ninja: :tongue: :D

I think women from 1974 are most attractive. :) love ya Jennifer :wink: (my GF)

[ChargerChick]

that's a year after my mom was born :ninja: :tongue: :D

I think women from 1974 are most attractive. :) love ya Jennifer :wink: (my GF)

You are trying to hurt me, aren't you? :knockout: :)

[Crazy Charger SRT-8]

You are trying to hurt me, aren't you? :knockout: :)

:( I'm sorry I didnt mean to hurt you :nervous s :smoke:

[ChargerChick]

:( I'm sorry I didnt mean to hurt you

I'm just teasing you!! I know I'm old enough to be most of you guys' mom! :)

[Ron380]

Well I think you're gorgeous, CC! :grin: :love:

(... and I'm smart enough and polite enough to NOT ask a woman her age!) :D

[TopBanana107]

Women are like a fine wine...they get better with age. Honestly, my gf knows where she is at, knows what she wants/doesn't want, tells it like it is, is not insecure...but best of all, she loves me!

[FLEX]

(... and I'm smart enough and polite enough to NOT ask a woman her age!) :D

Bah! I can appreciate your chivalry ROn, but does anyone even care anymore?

Miss Foxxxy doesn't care how old she is or who knows it. She's 43, so what? She's sexy as he11.

She works with this lunatic that's been there for years and won't tell anyone how old she is. Makes a big deal about it. :bored: Who cares?

-=FLEX=-

[Ladybreeanna]

Pre WWII era The makeup and hair & style were just so cool!

[Ladybreeanna]

Bah! I can appreciate your chivalry ROn, but does anyone even care anymore?

Miss Foxxxy doesn't care how old she is or who knows it. She's 43, so what? She's sexy as he11.



-=FLEX=-



I totally agree & I have no problem saying my age (42) and when I do most people can not believe it anyway I look a lot younger then that. Plus I still dont know what I want to do when I grow up!! LOL

[Ron380]

Hi LB. That's cool. Most people think I'm 6-8 years younger than I am too... guess it's different for guys.

I work in an office with mostly women, and I swear this part of the country just makes them different... not in good ways, either. :confused:

[Ladybreeanna]

Hi Ron :)
In the past I have worked with all women and I hated it! Throw me in a warehouse office or production company anyday... I know what you mean!
I guess thats why I curse like no tomorrow..

[TBYDaytona40]

I dig the 90's chicks........ lovin skin and big fake plastic boobs

[ChargeRonDavinS]

Honestly, today. Every generation gets more and more attractive, it's like darwinism. The ugly women don't breed as much, and don't produce as many children, which is why the further along you go, the more "beautiful" women there are.

Selective breeding is evident.

[Ron380]

^^ Can't say that's true around these parts... Fortunately, I've travelled a lot! :D

[ChargeRonDavinS]

^^ Can't say that's true around these parts... Fortunately, I've travelled a lot! :D

In some areas people breed with their sister/brother and the offspring are not only alien and abnormal, they are ugly.

[jmiahhenry]

I just like women that has some curves...a nice rack and some junk in the trunk.

[bigjim.srt-8]

I dig the 90's chicks........ lovin skin and big fake plastic boobs
I with you!!! Fake boobs=science heading in the right direction....:grin:

[FLEX]

100% Natural:


http://www.jskinner.com/flex/Pics3/Picture%20108.jpg


:D:D:D

-=FLEX=-

[TopBanana107]

Hey Flex...She ok with that photo being on here, or did she actually pose for it when you asked her to? Gotta love the natural beauty in her! :grin:

[ChargeRonDavinS]

thats how big my boobs are, and im a guy. Im at least 800lbs.

[FLEX]

Hey Flex...She ok with that photo being on here, or did she actually pose for it when you asked her to? Gotta love the natural beauty in her! :grin:

I didn't ask, but she's sitting right next to me and I haven't been slapped...yet...

:nervous s

-=FLEX=-

PS, I agree 100% with the second part of your comment... :yes:

[CHARGERTREV]

I like the clean look of today....if you KNOW what I mean.

[ChargeRonDavinS]

big boobs are cool and all as long as the bra is on. Even a little bit of sagging is absolutely disgusting. I'd much rather have a woman with no boobs who has "other skills". Boobs aren't so important to me, I'd say im about 65% face, 20% butt, 10% legs, 5% boobs. And my only requirement is that there is SOMETHING there to tell that the body belongs to a woman, and does NOT sag.

Not picky really, i steer clear of big boobs cause if they dont sag now, they will later!

A lot of the reason a girls face is so important, is it's what I see, features like the face itself is huge, but a lot of it is hair also. But you can't polish a turd, an ugly girl with beautiful hair is like 10,000 dollar rims on a 1988 buick.

[TopBanana107]

I didn't ask, but she's sitting right next to me and I haven't been slapped...yet...

:nervous s

-=FLEX=-

PS, I agree 100% with the second part of your comment... :yes:

You lucky guy, you!

*Knock, knock* <---Flex knocking on wood that he doesn't get slapped by Miss Foxxxy after exposing her breasts to all Charger Forum users...

Sorry, buddy...you might get slapped now. My bad. :grin: I'm sure you like it though when she slaps you... :knockout:

[FLEX]

I'd say im about 65% face, 20% butt, 10% legs, 5% boobs.

WOW!

Not a single mention of PERSONALITY, INTELLIGENCE, or SENSE OF HUMOR.

No offence, but I think you just said "Hey everyone, I'm a shallow guy".

For me it's all about the personality and the compatibility. Looks are just the icing on the cake.

-=FLEX=-

[ChargeRonDavinS]

WOW!

Not a single mention of PERSONALITY, INTELLIGENCE, or SENSE OF HUMOR.

No offence, but I think you just said "Hey everyone, I'm a shallow guy".

For me it's all about the personality and the compatibility. Looks are just the icing on the cake.

-=FLEX=-

I thought we were discussing looks?

Yeah, I'm shallow, but not THAT shallow, looks are probably half, and personality half, realistically. This thread is about attractiveness not personality? or am I misunderstood?

[ca400hp]

have to say the women of today are the most appealing to me

[wickedchargerrt]

any woman that talks to me gets my vote :grin:

[ChargeRonDavinS]

what does that say about you, wicked? :grin:

[PlumCrazy814]

'80s women - oh wait, this century?
Anyway - women who love children.

[ChargeRonDavinS]

'80s women - oh wait, this century?
Anyway - women who love children.

cant dig the hair, too much for me.

[Aremel]

any woman that talks to me gets my vote :grin:

Yeah, EXACTLY! Those are the best ones by far.

[Challenger Lover]

I just like women that has some curves...a nice rack and some junk in the trunk.

I love this man :love: :love: :love:

[charger08srt]

marilyn monroe days...

[TopBanana107]

I just like women that has some curves...a nice rack and some junk in the trunk.

I love this man :love: :love: :love:

So...is that a description of you? :love:

:grin:

[NoHemi]

Not picky really, i steer clear of big boobs cause if they dont sag now, they will later!



Women could say the same about men. I know a guy that was a competition body builder in his 20s. Gym rat. Years later, he got "lazy" and fat. We could not believe our eyes. His massive pecks that get girls going turned into man-boobs. Really, he needed a bra with a bigger cup than most women.

[cmooremax]

that would be the only time i would ok a breast reduction lol

[NoHemi]

Ok, not really. She was this tiny thin girl and now she is "oh...Yeah...." if you know what I mean. :) She is still smokin hot with just a bit more. :) Not trying to brag, she would have no problem having guys hit on her walking down the street. But I'm see a very bad trend. Before I get into more trouble here. I'll change the direction.

She just can't stop eating ice cream, chocolate, and drinking soda. And I'm concern. In the last two years, we spend about $5,000 on her teeth. And will spend another $1,500 next month. This is with insurance. Every trip to the dentist is $1K+. I don't think we have gold digger dentist. There's just something wrong each time.

How do you say "Stop eating ice cream, chocolate, and drinking soda." I tired that "I'm concern about your teeth" angle. It turns into "You don't want me to get fat" speech. I tired the "good for your health" angle, it turns into "you don't want me to get fat" speech. Every angle turns into "you don't want me to get fat."

YES, I don't want her to get "fat."

[Crazy Charger SRT-8]

get a gym membership and work out together. The ice cream and chocolate she eats could be offset by the exercise you two do at the gym?

[cmooremax]

so is this the reason for the other thread? the only way to get around it and still get your way is do cut back and be healthy together that way its not like you think she is ugly and fat, even if you feel she is getting that way. the best way to get something you want from someone is to work with them so it seems like it isn't them just doing something for you with no benefit.

[TopBanana107]

Well, why is she eating all those things...does she sense that you're not there for her? yes, i'm referring to your "other" thread...are you showing her that you truly want to be with her? ...This may be her way to see if you really want that... Just a theory! Take it as you want!

[FLEX]

You start some seriously messed up threads. :clap:

-=FLEX=-

[pikapp]

Is that your wife in your avatar? If so, I'll give her some damn ice cream. J/K x2 on working out together, that's your best bet.

[Challenger Lover]

Ok, not really. She was this tiny thin girl and now she is "oh...Yeah...." if you know what I mean. :) She is still smokin hot with just a bit more. :) Not trying to brag, she would have no problem having guys hit on her walking down the street. But I'm see a very bad trend. Before I get into more trouble here. I'll change the direction.

She just can't stop eating ice cream, chocolate, and drinking soda. And I'm concern. In the last two years, we spend about $5,000 on her teeth. And will spend another $1,500 next month. This is with insurance. Every trip to the dentist is $1K+. I don't think we have gold digger dentist. There's just something wrong each time.

How do you say "Stop eating ice cream, chocolate, and drinking soda." I tired that "I'm concern about your teeth" angle. It turns into "You don't want me to get fat" speech. I tired the "good for your health" angle, it turns into "you don't want me to get fat" speech. Every angle turns into "you don't want me to get fat."

YES, I don't want her to get "fat."


Instead of talking to us you should start talking to her. I feel sorry for YOUR WIFE. First you have dirty thoughts about her best friend, now its her getting fat and her teeth.

(Deep breath)
When you go to the dentist they ask you what foods you eat and they tell you what you shouldnt eat, so she knows whats good and whats not. Dental work is very expensive, and if everytime she goes the bill is that high its not her eatting sweets, she has deeper problems then that, as in deep cleaning.
IM sure she dont enjoy going to the dentist and having to open "her wallet"as well.
I know your hating me..............lol

[Challenger Lover]

So...is that a description of you? :love:

:grin:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[cmooremax]

Hmmmmm..........

[charger08srt]

You start some seriously messed up threads. :clap:

-=FLEX=-

i agree... and what type of toothpaste does she use because i eat all those things to and don't have any problems

[cmooremax]

I know your hating me..............lol

Can't hate the truth

[Challenger Lover]

TOO, much junk I have yes I do.

[Aremel]

I seriously have to double check to make sure what forums I'm in.

:shifty: :confused:

[pikapp]

Some people just simply have problems with their teeth. Doesn't matter how much they brush, floss and take care of them etc. they just end up with cavities. There really isn't anything they can do about it. I know a lady like that. She had so many problems with her teeth, and kept getting cavities, no matter what she did, that eventually, the dentist pulled them all out and gave her false teeth. She was only like 25 or so when that happened.

[bigjim.srt-8]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

WE NEED PICS!!!!!!! BIG fan of curves.......

[cmooremax]

if there is too much booty in the pants, take it out :clap:

[Aremel]

TOO, much junk I have yes I do.


And you sound like Yoda too!

[charger08srt]

Some people just simply have problems with their teeth. Doesn't matter how much they brush, floss and take care of them etc. they just end up with cavities. There really isn't anything they can do about it. I know a lady like that. She had so many problems with her teeth, and kept getting cavities, no matter what she did, that eventually, the dentist pulled them all out and gave her false teeth. She was only like 25 or so when that happened.

i know... some teeth have stronger enamel than others but brushing, floss, and everything in between should help out

[charger08srt]

Vida Guerra gets my blood pumpin:silenced:

[pikapp]

i know... some teeth have stronger enamel than others but brushing, floss, and everything in between should help out

Absolutely, I'm just pointing out to the OP that it may not have anything to do with what his wife is eating. She just may have a problem like this. Besides, it shouldn't matter if she is putting on weight. He married her because he loved her, not because she looked like a model (hopefully). And he has to know that she wasn't going to stay looking like she looked in college for ever.

[Challenger Lover]

WE NEED PICS!!!!!!! BIG fan of curves.......

No, its not a good thing trust me.

if there is too much booty in the pants, take it out :clap:

OMG, my big fat booty stays in the pants

And you sound like Yoda too!

LMAO....... thats funny. I was going to Dr.Seuss, but I'll take Yoda anyday :D

[Aremel]

I used to work on my six pack. It worked too well and now I have a pony keg.

[charger08srt]

Absolutely, I'm just pointing out to the OP that it may not have anything to do with what his wife is eating. She just may have a problem like this. Besides, it shouldn't matter if she is putting on weight. He married her because he loved her, not because she looked like a model (hopefully). And he has to know that she wasn't going to stay looking like she looked in college for ever.


exactly... guys can have a beer gut and so forth but as soon as some women put on a little extra weight, it's a whole different set of standards

[charger08srt]

plus, would anyone in their right mind tell their partner in, hey, i think you're getting fat and your teeth are rotting out and costing me butt loads of money in the process:silenced: :knockout:

[MR-SMITH]

Fat girls need loving too.

[charger08srt]

I used to work on my six pack. It worked too well and now I have a pony keg.

why bring a six pack to the party when you can bring a whole keg:smoke:

[charger08srt]

Fat girls need loving too.

you know it:lol:

[cmooremax]

why bring a six pack to the party when you can bring a whole keg:smoke:

Because not everyone might like whats inside,
i preffer killians red:headbang:

[PaCharger]

I seriously have to double check to make sure what forums I'm in.

:shifty: :confused:

yeah...

www.drphilgivesacrapsopostabouthisoverthere.com

...might be a better place for starting a bunch of 'i need to cheat' & 'my girl is...' threads.

[charger08srt]

Because not everyone might like whats inside,
i preffer killians red:headbang:

that was a joke... why bring a six pack stomach when you can bring the whole keg meaning the guys big gut

[cmooremax]

i know that was a joke too

[hiDes]

She may be overeating due to depression or cuz she's feeling a void, which remember, women are very intuitive, so she is probably sensing you're attention and passion aint totally on her.

In ref. to teeth, I've heard that it's really a lack of calcium.

[Hideoutdodge]

its a tie between the 20's when they obeyed the man and back in the cavemen days. bash em over the head with a club drag em home **** em then throw em out (the typical 18 year old boy's answer)

You have to drag them by the hair, because if you drag them by the feet, they fill up with dirt!

[Ksleigh]

No big deal. You have to change your lifestyle and want her to follow. Tell her you been reading about eating right and exercising. Get a gym membership for you and her or start jogging or ridding bikes. Just get out and be active. You have to make it sound like its for the both of you so she doesn't think you r just talking about her

[pikapp]

Watch it buddy, dont be an a@@.....

Sorry, I just couldn't resist...

[charger08srt]

Sorry, I just couldn't resist...

damn i cant see photobucket pics

[wickedchargerrt]

You start some seriously messed up threads. :clap:

-=FLEX=-

x100.

no new member has ever made such contriversial threads before.


I like it:cool:

[charger08srt]

x100.

no new member has ever made such contriversial threads before.


I like it:cool:

yeah i can only imagine what his next one will be:silenced:

[wickedchargerrt]

dont matter, as long as it keeps hemee busy and away from my posts i'm good. :grin:

[pikapp]

dont matter, as long as it keeps hemee busy and away from my posts i'm good. :grin:

Now that's funny!

[charger08srt]

Now that's funny!

true dat:lol:

[ChargeRonDavinS]

Women could say the same about men. I know a guy that was a competition body builder in his 20s. Gym rat. Years later, he got "lazy" and fat. We could not believe our eyes. His massive pecks that get girls going turned into man-boobs. Really, he needed a bra with a bigger cup than most women.

ahaha thats hott im lazy and fat right now, beggers can be choosers.

[wickedchargerrt]

i bet $5 that pic is removed by admin by the end of the day. I just cant see it hanging out very long:shifty:

[ChargeRonDavinS]

Oh but it's so funny, so funny.

[pikapp]

i bet $5 that pic is removed by admin by the end of the day. I just cant see it hanging out very long:shifty:

Pic? What Pic? .....:whistle:

[ChargeRonDavinS]

I have no idea what he's talking about

[ChargerChick]

Well I think you're gorgeous, CC! :grin: :love:

(... and I'm smart enough and polite enough to NOT ask a woman her age!) :D

Thanks Ron! You are a sweetie! :love:

It's funny, anytime someone asked me how old I was I would tell them 29. Until I hit 40. Now I say exactly how old I am. I'll be 47 next month. :)

I dig the 90's chicks........ lovin skin and big fake plastic boobs

Why does this not surprise me???? :knockout:

It was great to see you again last Saturday, Jack! :)

You have to drag them by the hair, because if you drag them by the feet, they fill up with dirt!

OMG! That made me laugh! :D

[Nightops]

Sorry, I just couldn't resist... It isn't because they are hungry, it is because they have to. Many hot women are used to getting male attention just for beeing hot. The big girls have to work harder.

As for the OP, tell your wife that if she gets fat, you are going to start chasing her hot friends. This will definitely solve the problem of having a fat wife in one way or another.

[sublime 781]

47 wow you're old.....

[YoungMedic23]

TODAY because every girl has the 2 B's(boobs and booty) from all the fast food and steroid injected beef....Does their body good! Atleast around my age....then i stay away after it catches up to them!

[ChargeRonDavinS]

It isn't because they are hungry, it is because they have to. Many hot women are used to getting male attention just for beeing hot. The big girls have to work harder.

As for the OP, tell your wife that if she gets fat, you are going to start chasing her hot friends. This will definitely solve the problem of having a fat wife in one way or another.

LOTS of truth behind this, but for once I held back in saying it.

I would tell my gf straight up if she gets fatter than me, we aren't talking till she does something about it. How awful is that? bad

[ChargerChick]

47 wow you're old.....

Haven't seen you around in ages and you come out of the woodwork to slam me? BUTTHEAD!!!! :fuming:

Where have YOU been?? Nice to see you back! I think. :)

[ChargeRonDavinS]

TODAY because every girl has the 2 B's(boobs and booty) from all the fast food and steroid injected beef....Does their body good! Atleast around my age....then i stay away after it catches up to them!

haahaha yes, a genuine arrogant egotistical a$$hole. Just like myself.

Kudos, brother.

[ChargerChick]

Makes you wonder what they are gonna look like when they are my age though. :)

[sublime 781]

have had to work on a secure network cant get on to many places.... see most of the old crowd......

[ChargeRonDavinS]

have had to work on a secure network cant get on to many places.... see most of the old crowd......

Are you bringing yourself to the M&G in columbus? Everybodys doin it!

[ChargerOnDavins girl]

LOTS of truth behind this, but for once I held back in saying it.

I would tell my gf straight up if she gets fatter than me, we aren't talking till she does something about it. How awful is that? bad

yes. bad. i'll kill you. that's all.

[sublime 781]

of course thats where i live....

[ChargeRonDavinS]

of course thats where i live....

says you live in the state of denial? What is that? California?

hehehe

Ok well I'll see you there then, sucker!

[ChargeRonDavinS]

yes. bad. i'll kill you. that's all.

I don't think its much of a danger, woman. You weigh like 102lbs. And you eat well.. well ok MUCH better than I do.

[ChargerChick]

of course thats where i live....

Then you better watch what you say to me. I'll be there and I'm not afraid to slap you if you get out of line anymore. :D

[Aremel]

Makes you wonder what they are gonna look like when they are my age though. :)

Not half as good as you do. And don't let 'em dog ya. I'm 48; just turned a couple of weeks ago.


:love: :love:

[ChargeRonDavinS]

I'm 14, I stole my dads car.

[NoHemi]

I'm 14, I stole my dads car.

Does she know that?
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/member.php?u=9436

[Chefjason777]

As for the OP, tell your wife that if she gets fat, you are going to start chasing her hot friends. This will definitely solve the problem of having a fat wife in one way or another.

Yep, nothing spells true happiness like a child support/alamony payment, weekend visitation, theropy bills, moving into a 1 bedroom apt and being a middle aged balding overweight man at the night club trying to find a "friend" so you can give your hand a rest.:yes: That's the way I want to spend my forties...:no:

[ChargerChick]

Not half as good as you do. And don't let 'em dog ya. I'm 48; just turned a couple of weeks ago.


:love: :love:

Wow! This thread is good for my ego today! Thanks! :love:

Does she know that?
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/member.php?u=9436

She must like younger men. :D

[MySRT8U]

you better PRAY you never leave the forum pages up on your comp for her to see!

[ChargeRonDavinS]

you better PRAY you never leave the forum pages up on your comp for her to see!

ahahahaha

[deem0nessa]

I am what most of you all would consider "fat" I have for the most part accepted my weight and have learned to live with it...i dont let it stop me from enjoying life....it may bother others but hell thats their life not mine..they have the option to turn and look away...

seeing this thread isnt upsetting its quite entertaining...for the most part its typical reactions to an uncomfy situation....and yes fat and funny sometimes go hand in hand...

but let us get on to the real subject...its not about her weight its about her TEETH...i suspect there was something that broke down the surface enamel more than icecream...sometimes if you are on certain antibiotics they can affect teeth that way as does other drugs...maybe the dentist isnt informing you of whats really going on...

[Utecharger]

DUDE! It appears to me that you have alot of issues with your wife that need to be addressed or maybe they are just small issues that you are making bigger because you are unhappy.

Regardless of what they are, if your wife is the woman in your avatar then send her my way. I live in Utah so its ok to have mulitiple wives ;).

[NoHemi]

you better PRAY you never leave the forum pages up on your comp for her to see!

I'm smarter than that. I don't do computers at home. Even thou some of you may think I'm an a$$hat, I (we) actually do make an honest effort to spend time with each other in our busy lives.

However, I will say the "lack of communication" (as many of you mentioned) is on my part. Guilty here.

[charger08srt]

I'm smarter than that. I don't do computers at home. Even thou some of you may think I'm an a$$hat, I (we) actually do make an honest effort to spend time with each other in our busy lives.

However, I will say the "lack of communication" (as many of you mentioned) is on my part. Guilty here.

is that your wife in your sig pic or what

[ChargeRonDavinS]

I'm smarter than that. I don't do computers at home. Even thou some of you may think I'm an a$$hat, I (we) actually do make an honest effort to spend time with each other in our busy lives.

However, I will say the "lack of communication" (as many of you mentioned) is on my part. Guilty here.

at least you're man enough to admit that. And honestly, I respect this man enough for at least having the balls to ask us what we think of his situation, on numerous occasions, despite KNOWING he's probably going to get chewed out.

He's a realist, and to me that is to be respected. Sure he has his issues, but so do I and who doesn't?

[ChargeRonDavinS]

Does she know that?
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/member.php?u=9436

Yeah, I mean i've been with her for 6 years. She has accepted that I am pre pubescent and loves me anyway.

[NoHemi]

is that your wife in your sig pic or what

Yes.

[BlkOnBlkSXT]

yeah...

www.drphilgivesacrapsopostabouthisoverthere.com

...might be a better place for starting a bunch of 'i need to cheat' & 'my girl is...' threads.

Now that I think about it, all of his threads/posts could be merged into Demonspeed's relationship thread where she can play Dr.Phil for him. :rolleyes:

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58108

(and maybe they can also talk about not having chargers as well :ninja: )

[skeletonizer]

subscribed












It's like "Springer". :smoke: I can't look away.

[pikapp]

Yes.

Then WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT!!!

NoHemi: "Wah, my hot wife likes to eat icecream... Boo Hoo"

Bro, I'm about to make myself into an ice cream sundae... Wheres the chocolate syrup at?

[charger08srt]

Yes.

kewl... so maybe you should have said... and with all the respect in the world to you and your wife... my wife is getting PHAT:D

[Chefjason777]

Yes.

Hey NoHEMI, I got ya link to check out!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=opthamologist+arizona&spell=1

Cause clearly you need an eye doctor!

[DonatoM3]

Then WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT!!!

NoHemi: "Wah, my hot wife likes to eat icecream... Boo Hoo"

Bro, I'm about to make myself into an ice cream sundae... Wheres the chocolate syrup at?

Totally Agreed, especially if she's about the same age as you and still looks like that.

To NoHemi:

And I think the best advice was kinda given already. You both can start doing things like the gym together, and maybe start eating healthier together.

You mentioning that the communication on your side has broken down is good, what you do after admitting that will make the bigger difference though.

[Challenger Lover]

Thats right boys, you go have your keg, your hot wings, jumping in your car to notice that the steering wheel is pressing against your gut.
Waves bye-bye as clumbs of your hair runs down the drain.
You dont care how you look, as long as your woman still fits in her skinny jeans, her boobs dont sag and laughs at your stupid jokes.

Be careful what you wish for boys..........

Yes, NoHemi has major issue's, and some of your boys are right behind him.

[ChargeRonDavinS]

Thats right boys, you go have your keg, your hot wings, jumping in your car to notice that the steering wheel is pressing against your gut.
Waves bye-bye as clumbs of your hair runs down the drain.
You dont care how you look, as long as your woman still fits in her skinny jeans, her boobs dont sag and laughs at your stupid jokes.

Be careful what you wish for boys..........

lol im ugly and fat, no suprise there! :lol:

[DonatoM3]

Thats right boys, you go have your keg, your hot wings, jumping in your car to notice that the steering wheel is pressing against your gut.
Waves bye-bye as clumbs of your hair runs down the drain.
You dont care how you look, as long as your woman still fits in her skinny jeans, her boobs dont sag and laughs at your stupid jokes.

Be careful what you wish for boys..........

Yes, NoHemi has major issue's, and some of your boys are right behind him.

While I definitely agree with your whole "look in the mirror first" philosophy I do remember NoHemi in another thread mentioning being in good shape and working out, so that part may not apply to him.

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Thats right boys, you go have your keg, your hot wings, jumping in your car to notice that the steering wheel is pressing against your gut.
Waves bye-bye as clumbs of your hair runs down the drain.
You dont care how you look, as long as your woman still fits in her skinny jeans, her boobs dont sag and laughs at your stupid jokes.

Be careful what you wish for boys..........

Yes, NoHemi has major issue's, and some of your boys are right behind him.

Women put the stigma of having to look good all the time on themselves! Dont blame us cause we think we look good no matter how fat or bald we are! You're just jealous LOL

[Challenger Lover]

lol im ugly and fat, no suprise there! :lol:

Okay, but you expect your woman to look a certain way. Maybe one day big boy she'll get tried of your fat #$%^ and trade you in for a better model. :D

[Challenger Lover]

Women put the stigma of having to look good all the time on themselves! Dont blame us cause we think we look good no matter how fat or bald we are! You're just jealous LOL

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOo
Its you boys that do it too us. Its all your fault. Now if only you can say "yes dear" LOL

[Challenger Lover]

While I definitely agree with your whole "look in the mirror first" philosophy I do remember NoHemi in another thread mentioning being in good shape and working out, so that part may not apply to him.

He might have a well toned body, what about the other stuff like a FACE.
How about a personality to go with it.

[DonatoM3]

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOo
Its you boys that do it too us. Its all your fault. Now if only you can say "yes dear" LOL

Many of us learned how to say "yes dear". In my case a woman taught me to say "yes dear" and another one taught me to stop saying "yes dear". Funny thing is both ended up using the same method.

[Challenger Lover]

Now you boys got me all worked up!!!! LOL

[Chefjason777]

Uh oh!! Got a woman on the rampage. You guys better buckle up for a long hard bumpy ride...oh wait...maybe that's what she needs!

[ChargerChick]

Kevin??? Is that you??? :D

[ChargeRonDavinS]

Okay, but you expect your woman to look a certain way. Maybe one day big boy she'll get tried of your fat #$%^ and trade you in for a better model. :D

Naw, I'd love her anyway. I more or less joke that if she got fat I'd dump her, although I wouldn't be as attracted to her, I would still love my woman. Been with her for 6 years, about to be engaged, I often joke too much and people think I am an @$$.. ok maybe I am but I love my girl.

[Vanilla Gorilla]

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOo
Its you boys that do it too us. Its all your fault. Now if only you can say "yes dear" LOL

Nope its you ladies who read all the magazines with models in them and care about what the celebrities look like and cant leave the house without makeup on....

[ChargeRonDavinS]

Nope its you ladies who read all the magazines with models in them and care about what the celebrities look like and cant leave the house without makeup on....

he has a VERY valid point. I can't tell you how many times I've heard...

"am i prettier than megan fox, jessica alba, etc. etc."

Who cares? I love YOU not them!.... but are you in to 3-somes?

[ChargerOnDavins girl]

Nope its you ladies who read all the magazines with models in them and care about what the celebrities look like and cant leave the house without makeup on....

no, that's only because GUYS care that we look like that or don't leave the house without make up on. trust me, we dont do it to impress ourselves! :bored:

[Vanilla Gorilla]

I love YOU not them!.... but are you in to 3-somes?

:clap: Nicely said LOL

[Curz]

:silenced: Ok, not really. She was this tiny thin girl and now she is "oh...Yeah...." if you know what I mean. :) She is still smokin hot with just a bit more. :) Not trying to brag, she would have no problem having guys hit on her walking down the street. But I'm see a very bad trend. Before I get into more trouble here. I'll change the direction.

She just can't stop eating ice cream, chocolate, and drinking soda. And I'm concern. In the last two years, we spend about $5,000 on her teeth. And will spend another $1,500 next month. This is with insurance. Every trip to the dentist is $1K+. I don't think we have gold digger dentist. There's just something wrong each time.

How do you say "Stop eating ice cream, chocolate, and drinking soda." I tired that "I'm concern about your teeth" angle. It turns into "You don't want me to get fat" speech. I tired the "good for your health" angle, it turns into "you don't want me to get fat" speech. Every angle turns into "you don't want me to get fat."

YES, I don't want her to get "fat."

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/kerseym1/sequence.jpg

[ChargeRonDavinS]

no, that's only because GUYS care that we look like that or don't leave the house without make up on. trust me, we dont do it to impress ourselves! :bored:

Ok then Kristen, explain then why you STILL put makeup on, every day, when I am 3 hours away, and you're at college in a different state? You aren't impressing me, who ARE you impressing? I never see you 90% of the time when you're in school? DONT pull the "You want people to think your gf is pretty dont you?" I KNOW NOBODY THERE IN OHIO! nor do I care what people think of how you look.

:clap: Nicely said LOL

thank you! Applause noted.

[DonatoM3]

He might have a well toned body, what about the other stuff like a FACE.
How about a personality to go with it.

True and if he were complaining about her getting wrinkles and things that really aren't under her control then he'd have to look at that too. It is fair for him to be concerned about her body changing significantly from when they originally met especially if the guy has kept up their appearance. Of course you can't expect everyone to stay as thin forever, but there is a reasonable amoutn of change that should be expected.

And the personality argument can only be used if his personality has changed from the time they met.

[pikapp]

:silenced:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/kerseym1/sequence.jpg

HA HA HA HA HA ROFLMAO!!!!!!

[ChargerOnDavins girl]

Ok then Kristen, explain then why you STILL put makeup on, every day, when I am 3 hours away, and you're at college in a different state? You aren't impressing me, who ARE you impressing? I never see you 90% of the time when you're in school?

because it's expected, that's what i'm saying. duuuh. everyone just expects girls to look good. i'm just saying. and if you don't see me, how do u know i even wear make up here? :ninja:

[charger08srt]

i think he meant PHAT... pretty hot and tempting:grin:

[DonatoM3]

because it's expected, that's what i'm saying. duuuh. everyone just expects girls to look good. i'm just saying. and if you don't see me, how do u know i even wear make up here? :ninja:

We guys look out for eachother that's how he knows.

[soxfan4eva]

I used to work with a girl that was smoking hot, two years later she's got a double chin and her butt is 6" wider. Come on ladies, gas is too expensive to be pulling wide loads.

You're bum gets larger
20 pounds you need to lose
If you wanna cruise
In my pimpin Charger

I think that's a Haiku :geek:

[Vanilla Gorilla]

no, that's only because GUYS care that we look like that or don't leave the house without make up on. trust me, we dont do it to impress ourselves! :bored:

Come on lets be real.... Its girls who want to be pretty and cute all the time. You want guys to look at you and be attracted to you. We dont ask you to leave the house wearing makeup because we want other guys to look at you, you do that yourselves. Lets take a good look at oursleves ladies and stop blaming us men!

[pikapp]

Wow, a couple fight for all our enjoyment! What an awsome thread! lol

[Chefjason777]

Is itjsut me or does anyone else see a lovers quarel going on here?