12.562 @ 113.47 in a MSRT-8 with just a tune! (Video)

[10SecS4]

So my buddy and I went down to Island Dragway in Great Meadows, NJ today for what we thought was going to be just a regular test and tune day. We were wrong. They were running an event with tons of race cars. I got only two runs.

After icing the car down for a good 2+ hours in the staging lanes and getting restless, I decided to hook up the Predator. I went through all the settings just out of sheer boredom and then thought to myself, "what the hell," and advanced the timing in the mid range and top end by 1.5 degrees. I figured since it was a cool day (low 60's with not much humidity) and I was icing the thing down good, an extra 1 1/2 degrees over what the timing is in the performance 93 tune might be good for a couple more horsepower.

By the time it was our turn to run, my engine's water temperature was under 100 degrees. As I approached the tree, it crept up to 150. I thought this was going to be my only pass, so I just left off idle and eased into the throttle off the line for fear of boiling the 245 all seasons. The 0-60 time on this pass according to the EVIC was a 4.16. When I got the slip it was a 12.623 @ 111.25. I was pretty happy.

For the second run, I put the ice back on the intake manifold but I only had about 10 minutes to cool it down. By the time I was at the line, the water temps were in the 175-185 range. This time I came out just a little bit harder and this resulted in a 4.14 0-60 on the EVIC. I thought this would probably be another 12.6x, but surprise surprise, it was a 12.562 @ 113.47! I read on one of these forums that if your engine's water temp is TOO low, you'll lose power. I forget who said that, but from the looks of it, they were definitely right.

After I ran the 12.56, a bunch of guys came over to me asking if I had a supercharger. Haha. I told them it was stock. And this one dude was saying there's no way, that I must have at least a computer chip?!? I was like WTF?!? So I confessed that all I had was a measly tune and I showed him the Predator. Sorry guys, but I'm a bit old skool and in my book this car is still stock. It turns out that all those guys were friends with a dude who had a supercharged Mach 1 and I had just beaten him by 4 thousandths of a second. :smoke: That's probably why they thought I had a supercharger. Haha. He ran 12.566 @ 115.09 to my 12.562 @ 113.47.

So... how many of you still don't think I'll run at least an 11.999 after I put in the Airhammer CAI, JBA 3" exhaust, high flow cats, 17's with 275/40/17 BFG Drag Radials (effectively having 3.42 gears), 2800 converter, and a little street tuning for ~100 octane? At this point, I don't think it's gonna be tough at all. Hell, I think JUST the drag radials will get me a 12.3!

12.562 video: http://titsup-racing.com/video/maggie/maggie_12.56.wmv

12.562 timeslip: http://titsup-racing.com/video/maggie/12_56_slip.jpg

[X E Ryder]

Yeah nice run, Well Done!

......But your buddies commentary on the Viper thing was HILARIOUS hehehe :lol:

[SRT8U]

What were your 60 ft times?

[10SecS4]

1.909 on the 12.562 @ 113.47 (EVIC showed 0-60 MPH in 4.14)
1.956 on the 12.623 @ 111.25 (EVIC showed 0-60 MPH in 4.16)

I'm running the stock 245 RSA all seasons (for now). :)

[08MagRacer]

so a stock M SRT8 does the quarter in like 13.2 correct?
the predator must be one hell of a chip for you to be .5-.8 faster dam i wonder what they do to R/Ts

stock R/T 14.0-14.2
with predator- 13.5???????????????

[10SecS4]

so a stock M SRT8 does the quarter in like 13.2 correct?
the predator must be one hell of a chip for you to be .5-.8 faster dam i wonder what they do to R/Ts

stock R/T 14.0-14.2
with predator- 13.5???????????????No sir, I ran 12.802@109.12 bone stock without the Predator in slightly warmer temps.

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52383

[roman371]

Nice run. I am seeing the tune is for real! Thanks for the vid.

[SRT8U]

Nice times but in all honesty you cut some super great 60 foot times, I am sure the tune helped but w those kind of 60's I think you would have been into teh 12's without a tune. Nice job, your track must do agreat job prepping, most people have a hard time getting under 2.00 w drag radials.

[10SecS4]

Nice times but in all honesty you cut some super great 60 foot times, I am sure the tune helped but w those kind of 60's I think you would have been into teh 12's without a tune. Nice job, your track must dod agreat job prepping, most peopel have a hard time getting under 2.00 w drag radials.She ran 12.80@109 stock before the Predator on a slightly warmer day.

Not sure how the track prep was... I didn't get a chance to test it since I only got two runs. First run I left off idle and eased into the throttle. Second run I left a hundred or two RPMs higher, but still eased into it. With more practice, I think she's got a high 12.4 in her as she sits.

[SRT8U]

Great times, I would love to be on a track that is that grippy

[Fast One]

Way to go Marc! You have magic feet. Maybe you can drive my charger for me:)

Alan

[10SecS4]

Way to go Marc! You have magic feet. Maybe you can drive my charger for me:)

AlanAnytime. Just say the word. We can even try the Predator out on that badboy. :knockout:

[Daywalker]

So what exactly did you have done to your car at the time u ran 12.56-12.6 and what kind of preps and what had you changed with the predator. Also if i were to get a predator and then went in for some warranty issues stuff, would they void my warranty or could you remove any record of the tune being done to the car? Also what kind of options does the Diablo offer?

[10SecS4]

So what exactly did you have done to your car at the time u ran 12.56-12.6 and what kind of preps and what had you changed with the predator. Just the Predator with 93 octane performance tune. I raised the shift points and also added 1.5 degrees of timing.

Also if i were to get a predator and then went in for some warranty issues stuff, would they void my warranty or could you remove any record of the tune being done to the car?There's an option in the Predator to restore your original tune, but I'm not sure if your dealer would see that it had been re-flashed recently and if that would raise any suspicion or not. This would be a good question to ask the tech support staff at Diablo.

Also what kind of options does the Diablo offer?http://www.diablosport.com/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=118

[metgo]

so a stock M SRT8 does the quarter in like 13.2 correct?



Actually the charger and 300 srt8 does 1/4 mile in about 13.2 stock on a good day. The magnum is actually a tenth of two slower because they weight 100 lbs more. When I went to the track back in early spring on a 60 degree night there was a guy there with a msrt8 with just catbacks and his best time of the night was like 13.4. It isn't uncommon for someone with an SRT to run mid to upper 13s on a bad day.

[EricG]

Especially with no drag racing experience. My first time ever at the track came with the SRT8, I went home with a 13.5@107 and thought I was disgracing the breed. Second time I got a 13.39@105, third time a 13.12@108.4 and fourth time a 13.19@108.97. I'm getting there, still haven't got my 60 foot time below 2 seconds though which is necessary for a 12 second pass I think.

I've read that the Maggie may launch a little better because the weight transfers harder or better. I dunno, I haven't seen any evidence that one LX SRT8 is faster than another...cannot lose either way really.

Eric

[Carlos Garza]

Just the Predator with 93 octane performance tune. I raised the shift points and also added 1.5 degrees of timing.

There's an option in the Predator to restore your original tune, but I'm not sure if your dealer would see that it had been re-flashed recently and if that would raise any suspicion or not. This would be a good question to ask the tech support staff at Diablo.

http://www.diablosport.com/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=118

how did you add the 1.5 degrees of timeing?

[jay2puff]

great time .Congrat

[Carlos Garza]

So my buddy and I went down to Island Dragway in Great Meadows, NJ today for what we thought was going to be just a regular test and tune day. We were wrong. They were running an event with tons of race cars. I got only two runs.

After icing the car down for a good 2+ hours in the staging lanes and getting restless, I decided to hook up the Predator. I went through all the settings just out of sheer boredom and then thought to myself, "what the hell," and advanced the timing in the mid range and top end by 1.5 degrees. I figured since it was a cool day (low 60's with not much humidity) and I was icing the thing down good, an extra 1 1/2 degrees over what the timing is in the performance 93 tune might be good for a couple more horsepower.

By the time it was our turn to run, my engine's water temperature was under 100 degrees. As I approached the tree, it crept up to 150. I thought this was going to be my only pass, so I just left off idle and eased into the throttle off the line for fear of boiling the 245 all seasons. The 0-60 time on this pass according to the EVIC was a 4.16. When I got the slip it was a 12.623 @ 111.25. I was pretty happy.

For the second run, I put the ice back on the intake manifold but I only had about 10 minutes to cool it down. By the time I was at the line, the water temps were in the 175-185 range. This time I came out just a little bit harder and this resulted in a 4.14 0-60 on the EVIC. I thought this would probably be another 12.6x, but surprise surprise, it was a 12.562 @ 113.47! I read on one of these forums that if your engine's water temp is TOO low, you'll lose power. I forget who said that, but from the looks of it, they were definitely right.

After I ran the 12.56, a bunch of guys came over to me asking if I had a supercharger. Haha. I told them it was stock. And this one dude was saying there's no way, that I must have at least a computer chip?!? I was like WTF?!? So I confessed that all I had was a measly tune and I showed him the Predator. Sorry guys, but I'm a bit old skool and in my book this car is still stock. It turns out that all those guys were friends with a dude who had a supercharged Mach 1 and I had just beaten him by 4 thousandths of a second. :smoke: That's probably why they thought I had a supercharger. Haha. He ran 12.566 @ 115.09 to my 12.562 @ 113.47.

So... how many of you still don't think I'll run at least an 11.999 after I put in the Airhammer CAI, JBA 3" exhaust, high flow cats, 17's with 275/40/17 BFG Drag Radials (effectively having 3.42 gears), 2800 converter, and a little street tuning for ~100 octane? At this point, I don't think it's gonna be tough at all. Hell, I think JUST the drag radials will get me a 12.3!

12.562 video: http://titsup-racing.com/video/maggie/maggie_12.56.wmv

12.562 timeslip: http://titsup-racing.com/video/maggie/12_56_slip.jpg

Kick @ss runs!!! do you know what was the DA?

[10SecS4]

Kick @ss runs!!! do you know what was the DA?Thanks. The DA was 598 feet.

how did you add the 1.5 degrees of timeing?With the Diablo Predator programmer.

[10SecS4]

Actually the charger and 300 srt8 does 1/4 mile in about 13.2 stock on a good day. The magnum is actually a tenth of two slower because they weight 100 lbs more. When I went to the track back in early spring on a 60 degree night there was a guy there with a msrt8 with just catbacks and his best time of the night was like 13.4. It isn't uncommon for someone with an SRT to run mid to upper 13s on a bad day.So then how'd my Magnum go 12.80 bone stock?

[metgo]

So then how'd my Magnum go 12.80 bone stock?

I don't know, I am just saying from the SRT owners I've met at the track, most run mid to low 13s stock. There is a lot of guys with heavily modded SRTs that don't run 12.5s.

[MagnesiumPearlR/t]

this is just a theory i have about early build R/Ts and SRTs...everyone that i have seen putting down low ets stock are early build date cars...im not precise with this but its a theory of mine...

[doctorc4]

I gotta tell you, the predator is sick. Now that it's had some time to "sink into" the car, it's getting kind of scary. I'll be rolling along at like 10mph, then floor it, and the back end is fishtailing all over the place. I was on a slight decline on-ramp the other day doing this same thing and though I was going to die. I just started yelling, "hell yes!". This thing is freakin crazy. And my beast is completely stock so far. I have yet to even test my zero to sixty (livin in downtown dallas is kind of hard to find a place with no traffic).

All I have to say is it's the best $350 I ever spent (aside from my 16GB ipod touch)! Go get one people!

[roman371]

this is just a theory i have about early build R/Ts and SRTs...everyone that i have seen putting down low ets stock are early build date cars...im not precise with this but its a theory of mine...

Weezy had the same feeling about his car, until he ran 14 flat...:lol: :lol: :lol:

[metgo]

I gotta tell you, the predator is sick. Now that it's had some time to "sink into" the car, it's getting kind of scary. I'll be rolling along at like 10mph, then floor it, and the back end is fishtailing all over the place. I was on a slight decline on-ramp the other day doing this same thing and though I was going to die. I just started yelling, "hell yes!". This thing is freakin crazy. And my beast is completely stock so far. I have yet to even test my zero to sixty (livin in downtown dallas is kind of hard to find a place with no traffic).

All I have to say is it's the best $350 I ever spent (aside from my 16GB ipod touch)! Go get one people!

I was getting on a ramp the other day and it was raining and I could see my esp light flashing all the way up to about 50-60 mph and that was being kinda easy on the throttle.

[metgo]

this is just a theory i have about early build R/Ts and SRTs...everyone that i have seen putting down low ets stock are early build date cars...im not precise with this but its a theory of mine...

I have an early build and it isn't feakishly fast. It is pretty much typical.

[RR/TT]

what altitude is your track?

[4DEATER]

550' would be the altitude.

Here is a cool site to find tracks all over the USA and Canada.
http://www.chasinracin.com/track-locator/viamap.shtml

[MagnesiumPearlR/t]

I have an early build and it isn't feakishly fast. It is pretty much typical.

but i bet that cam helps out a lot though...

[MagnesiumPearlR/t]

Weezy had the same feeling about his car, until he ran 14 flat...:lol: :lol: :lol:

yeah but 14 flat with a bone stock car is not bad at all, its actually quite impressive...

[Carlos Garza]

After icing the car down for a good 2+ hours in the staging lanes and getting restless, I decided to hook up the Predator. I went through all the settings just out of sheer boredom and then thought to myself, "what the hell," and advanced the timing in the mid range and top end by 1.5 degrees. I figured since it was a cool day (low 60's with not much humidity) and I was icing the thing down good, an extra 1 1/2 degrees over what the timing is in the performance 93 tune might be good for a couple more horsepower.

What gasoline are you using 93 octane?

[blown03mach1]

Great times for what I consider a stock SRT as well. However, I would not use a S/C Mach running 12.5's as your yard stick for a hot rod. I have only been to the track twice in my life and I snapped off 3 12.1's@118 back to back to back with no cool down in between. Oh BTW my DA wa 1900' on a warm Florida afternoon. Obviously that Mach driver needs more seat time as do I. I have a high 11 second car with a low 12 second driver.

But none the less, a two ton car running 12.5's in stock form is impressive!

[rw99]

On RSAs, too! holy crap!

Predator now on order.

[10SecS4]

What gasoline are you using 93 octane?Yep, the cheapest NJ 93 octane that I could find! :)

[MarylandSRT8]

So my buddy and I went down to Island Dragway in Great Meadows, NJ today for what we thought was going to be just a regular test and tune day. We were wrong. They were running an event with tons of race cars. I got only two runs.

After icing the car down for a good 2+ hours in the staging lanes and getting restless, I decided to hook up the Predator. I went through all the settings just out of sheer boredom and then thought to myself, "what the hell," and advanced the timing in the mid range and top end by 1.5 degrees. I figured since it was a cool day (low 60's with not much humidity) and I was icing the thing down good, an extra 1 1/2 degrees over what the timing is in the performance 93 tune might be good for a couple more horsepower.

By the time it was our turn to run, my engine's water temperature was under 100 degrees. As I approached the tree, it crept up to 150. I thought this was going to be my only pass, so I just left off idle and eased into the throttle off the line for fear of boiling the 245 all seasons. The 0-60 time on this pass according to the EVIC was a 4.16. When I got the slip it was a 12.623 @ 111.25. I was pretty happy.

For the second run, I put the ice back on the intake manifold but I only had about 10 minutes to cool it down. By the time I was at the line, the water temps were in the 175-185 range. This time I came out just a little bit harder and this resulted in a 4.14 0-60 on the EVIC. I thought this would probably be another 12.6x, but surprise surprise, it was a 12.562 @ 113.47! I read on one of these forums that if your engine's water temp is TOO low, you'll lose power. I forget who said that, but from the looks of it, they were definitely right.

After I ran the 12.56, a bunch of guys came over to me asking if I had a supercharger. Haha. I told them it was stock. And this one dude was saying there's no way, that I must have at least a computer chip?!? I was like WTF?!? So I confessed that all I had was a measly tune and I showed him the Predator. Sorry guys, but I'm a bit old skool and in my book this car is still stock. It turns out that all those guys were friends with a dude who had a supercharged Mach 1 and I had just beaten him by 4 thousandths of a second. :smoke: That's probably why they thought I had a supercharger. Haha. He ran 12.566 @ 115.09 to my 12.562 @ 113.47.

So... how many of you still don't think I'll run at least an 11.999 after I put in the Airhammer CAI, JBA 3" exhaust, high flow cats, 17's with 275/40/17 BFG Drag Radials (effectively having 3.42 gears), 2800 converter, and a little street tuning for ~100 octane? At this point, I don't think it's gonna be tough at all. Hell, I think JUST the drag radials will get me a 12.3!

12.562 video: http://titsup-racing.com/video/maggie/maggie_12.56.wmv

12.562 timeslip: http://titsup-racing.com/video/maggie/12_56_slip.jpgI just came across this web site. I kept wondering using physics and some calculus how I could compute the horse power needed to propel say a 4200 lb object a 1/4 mile in under 11.99 seconds concidering gravity, standard head winds, temp, humidity and the variables go on...well I found this web site:

http://www.web-cars.com/math/qtr_mile.html

It says you need 481.59 horsepower. I think you're moving in the right direction. Keep us posted!!!!!!!

[doctorc4]

yah, but this is only if you get all of that horsepower to the wheels, then make sure the wheels don't spin and you have good traction.