Auto Light Switch Installed

[PaCharger]

Okay...really easy.

I got the switch for $29.28 from MoparSuperCenter.com.
Came in 3 days.

Part number 4602348 - AD Switch HE 8053059.

This is the whole light assembly. Switch and panel.

Easy step by steps...

1. Take existing knob off.
2. Using 2 flat headed screwdrivers, take 1 into the slot where the knob ran, pressing up into the unit, pry the TOP of the panel away from the dash. (doesn't require much movement).
3. There are two metal tabs on top, press one down, till it releases, then the next.
4. Use a tad bit of force to pull forward, using the bottom, much like a hinge, this will release the 3rd clip on the bottom.
5. Take wire module off
6. Clip wire onto new unit
7. pRess into dash, test, smile, drink a beer

Total install time...including opening box...about 2mins total.

Good luck.

Doug

[mywhitecharger]

What exactly does that Auto switch do?

[PaCharger]

Auto light switch allows your headlights to come on when its dark.
This is only for folks with the bubble on the dash, part of convenience packages.

DJ

[TJchargerRT]

Thanks Doug i am glad i found this, so there were no wires to run?
This is the whole light assembly.What exactly do you mean? Is the new switch just a relay? Thanks, i Just want to make sure before i order one.

[PaCharger]

No wires...it has a modular plug in the back...notice the first picture. It slides in...done...easy...

Good luck!

DJ

[bstowers]

Thanks Doug i am glad i found this, so there were no wires to run?
What exactly do you mean? Is the new switch just a relay? Thanks, i Just want to make sure before i order one.The new switch is the same the old switch, it just doesn't block you from turning it to the auto position, and it has a nice "A" on it for that position. The "brains" for the auto headlight are already in the car if you have the right package. Easiest way to tell is if you have dual climate control. If you do, you can pop this switch in and you'll have auto headlights. Or, you can be a cheap bastage like me and dremel the stop off the back of the existing switch knob. :)

[PaCharger]

...and i too was going to dremel......but really didnt want to mess up the dash......both are good solves...except now i have a really cool "A" on the dash...and i'm sure if i dyno'd it would be good for .124 hp ...:wink:

DJ

[R/TommyB]

Thanks man. Just ordered mine.

[Dano_HB]

Just ordered this. Very clean looking.

[#430 Daytona]

Ok, I know I'm going to get smacked for this but how does the headlight knob come off? I ordered the new auto switch and I tried to pull the knob off today and it won't comeoff. I dont have the new switch yet, I just wanted to see if it really takes about 2 minutes to install. :embarrese
Ron

Dodge Charger Daytona R/T #430 :rockon: :headbang:

[R/TommyB]

small flatheaded jeweler's screwdriver. slide it into the gap and gently work it off. since the new part you ordered comes with a new knob and faceplate, it won't matter if you dent the current knob or faceplate with the screwdriver.

[Maxell]

Took the 5 minutes to remove a 1/4 inch from the stop on my knob tonight. Works like a champ. Gonna put that extra $30 towards my exhaust.

Wife asked what I was doing, told her "installing" auto activating headlights. She then asked if I knew what I was doing. Told her, "Hell no. I always screw up $40k cars at night in my driveway." After she was done laughing, I showed her the setup.

[Dano_HB]

I did this too and love it. No more forgetting to either turn on or off your lights. Plus I have the HIDs i n now, so looks extra clean.

[#430 Daytona]

Ok, I got my switch today and it is VERY easy to install. When trying to remove the old switch, you DONT need to take the knob off. I used 3 butter knives, two to pry off the switch at the top and one on the side closest to the sterring wheel to pop it out. I found that once the two clips ontop where unclipped, the switch slid down a bit and I couldn't get a knife in to unclip the bottom clip. I also didn't have to unplug the battery.
Now my next mod is hood struts...............
Ron

Dodge Charger Daytona R/T #430 :rockon: :headbang:

[CG Daytona]

Somebody help the blind guy, I am not able to locate this part on mopar.

[PaCharger]

4602348AD - HEADLAMP SWITCH, QTY: 1.00 @ $29.28 = $29.28

Subtotal: $29.28
Discount: $0.00
Shipping: $4.95
Taxes: $0.00


www.moparsupercenter.com
Just put the partnumber in the partnumber search, it'll come up.

Good luck

[CG Daytona]

Got it thanks PA, I owe you one.

[HEM1 PWR]

I just went out and pulled the knob off with a little scewdriver. Took a dremel cut of the the plastic section that keeps it from turn to auto position. Now I have Auto Head Lights and 30 bucks in my pocket. I wonder how many more mods can be done this way.
Could an "A" be etched in to the thin layer of black on the switch? This black layer is all that stops the light from shining though.
Any I now have Auto lights, I just need to remeber not to reach for the headlights when I shut the car off.

[CG Daytona]

Are you serious? This really worked?

[BILLSHOE]

Ordered Mine From Mopar Super Center And Installed Very Easy Thanks Pacharger Asked For Part At Local Dealership And They Sad I Cant Do It And What The Hell Is This Charger Forum..i Would Be Lost Without You Guys And Having To Turn Lights On And Off...

[PaCharger]

glad it worked out for you...yeah...parts departments don't know these cars yet....be patient with them...we'll teach them yet!

[dlyle]

Well now I know what that A stands for by the headlight switch. I thought it meant automatic but wasn't sure. And it's not in the SRT8 manual.

[1RTw/RT4ME]

I havn't gone 'midevil' on the switch yet, but I can't get the clips to let go. The knob was easy. Taking screwdriver up inside hole and using as a pry lever. See clips. Taking wife's expensive 'Pampered Chef' thin iceing spreader and stabing the spring clip. Nothing. I see how the clips work on my replacement switch, but the factory one refuses to let go under the pressure I've put it under so far.

Any advice other than poke and yank harder?

[#430 Daytona]

I havn't gone 'midevil' on the switch yet, but I can't get the clips to let go. The knob was easy. Taking screwdriver up inside hole and using as a pry lever. See clips. Taking wife's expensive 'Pampered Chef' thin iceing spreader and stabing the spring clip. Nothing. I see how the clips work on my replacement switch, but the factory one refuses to let go under the pressure I've put it under so far.

Any advice other than poke and yank harder?


I used three butter knives, lol. I used two to pry the switch from the dashboard at the top. When the switch unclipped it shifted down a bit and I couldn't get the other butter knife in the bottom to pry the bottom clip off. I used the third knife on the right side closest to the steering wheel to pop it out. It then came off with no problem. I didn't have to disconnect the battery at all. I just unplugged the headlight wiring harness, plugged it to the new switch and popped it back in the dashboard. 3 minutes tops from the time I sat down in the car to the time I closed the door and drove off. I NEVER had to take the knob off at all.............

[WhiteSXT]

I just went out and pulled the knob off with a little scewdriver. Took a dremel cut of the the plastic section that keeps it from turn to auto position. Now I have Auto Head Lights and 30 bucks in my pocket. I wonder how many more mods can be done this way.
...snip...

Tons..for instance, a very *large* dremel could be used to create your very own sunroof! :whistle:

[R/TommyB]

I just went out and pulled the knob off with a little scewdriver. Took a dremel cut of the the plastic section that keeps it from turn to auto position. Now I have Auto Head Lights and 30 bucks in my pocket. I wonder how many more mods can be done this way.
Could an "A" be etched in to the thin layer of black on the switch? This black layer is all that stops the light from shining though.


Sure, but it'll cost you about $30. :)

[Hemiready]

I havn't gone 'midevil' on the switch yet, but I can't get the clips to let go. The knob was easy. Taking screwdriver up inside hole and using as a pry lever. See clips. Taking wife's expensive 'Pampered Chef' thin iceing spreader and stabing the spring clip. Nothing. I see how the clips work on my replacement switch, but the factory one refuses to let go under the pressure I've put it under so far.

Any advice other than poke and yank harder?


Go easy on it. I'm the master at applying just a little too much force and winding up with an undesired mod :happy:
I got the switch plate out with no problem. The icing spreader sounds like a good start. What you want is two other tools that are thin and stiff. I snapped off two feeler guages from a valve adjustment feeler guage i hadn't used in years. Very thin metal but firm enough to push the other clips once the first tool was in place.
Let us know how you do.

[PaCharger]

i used to small jewelers screwdrivers if i recall, pulled from the top...it popped, without too much force.

[Hemiready]

i used to small jewelers screwdrivers if i recall, pulled from the top...it popped, without too much force.
PA, what the hell is that thing chasing the Charger back down the track?

[PaCharger]

a14umbra created my signature, he hosts it on his anydot.com website, and thus...he plays....that is a HAlo Ghost warship from what I've come to understand.

I'm cool with it either way..pretty cool animations...he's getting better with this stuff, but I'm afraid we are seeing fewer and fewer photoshops from him. I sense a bit of rust...however, when he gets these animations done....and he can photoshop our cars ....rumour is he'll combine the talents and show my charger with the air ram hood, spoiler, 275 bfg drag radials actually moving as if we were watching a video...:grin:

[Hemiready]

a14umbra created my signature, he hosts it on his anydot.com website, and thus...he plays....that is a HAlo Ghost warship from what I've come to understand.
LOL!!!!

I'm cool with it either way..pretty cool animations...he's getting better with this stuff, but I'm afraid we are seeing fewer and fewer photoshops from him. I sense a bit of rust...however, when he gets these animations done....and he can photoshop our cars ....rumour is he'll combine the talents and show my charger with the air ram hood, spoiler, 275 bfg drag radials actually moving as if we were watching a video...:grin:

Can't wait to see the next generation of sigs

[Kim+Charger]

I modded the original switch. The lights came on and stay on all the time. Is this right?

[BILLSHOE]

I modded the original switch. The lights came on and stay on all the time. Is this right?
I DONT THINK YOU HAVE AUTO LIGHTS IT HAPPENED TO A FRIND WITH MAGNUM WHO DID NOT HAVE OPTION BUT NOW HE HAS ALL THE TIME RUNNING LIGHTS

[Kim+Charger]

That makes sence. Thanks.

[PaCharger]

do you have the convenience group with auto climate controls?

DJ

[PaCharger]

...and is there a bubble on the dash, about 2 inches from the front windsheild....looks like a bubble gum ring container...kinda.....plastic cap....if not...no auto lights for you!

[Kim+Charger]

Yes, the bubble is there and duel air also. I had the EEPROM chip out for a while, to get a hex dump off of it, but that should't have done anything.

[PaCharger]

do you turn the switch past the final spot on the left.

in other words, about where my "A" is....

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1402

[Kim+Charger]

Yes, and the lights don't come on till you turn the key on.

[johnrx]

Just used Pa's method - worked well. Auto lights now, yeah!

[whiteje2]

This is a neat site. I've got a Charger R/T with 6k miles on it and really like it. Learned a bunch of neat tricks today. If you can do without the "A" there is even an easier way. Instead of Dremeling off the tab on the switch assembly, just firmly pull the round switch knob off. Now reach in and turn the switch stalk back counterclockwise one position (you now have activated the "auto light" feature). I did this at 60 mph. In order get the round knob back on fully, you take a straight edge razor blade and trim the knob backing just a small knotch (parked now). This takes about 30 seconds and 5 or 6 nibbles with the razor blade. You can test fit to make sure the knob fully depresses. This is basically making room for the plastic knotch you would otherwise be trimming off. On some Ford vehicles the only difference in the "autolight" feature is the round knob itself.

Jeff

[cip5150]

interesting, i might give that one a try instead of purchasing the switch. thanks

[a14umbra]

interesting, i might give that one a try instead of purchasing the switch. thanks

Did it that way, in parking lot while waiting for a business to open.

[cip5150]

i will definetely try it in the morning!

[GO MAN GO 392]

I messed with my light switch today before I ordered one. I shaved the botton stop out of the hole the knob fits in and when it hits the other stop it is aligned perfect. I also had an old license plate decal sticker with washington in small letters on the botton and cut the A out carefully and put it in the auto position. I think it looks pretty close to factory but it does not light up is the only thing. I dont think Im going to order a new switch just to have it light an A. I went over to the dealership and to get the daytime running lights turned on. The tech saw the switch and was telling me how the Auto worked. I probably should not have but I told him probably 3 times before it sank in that I put the A on there and modified the switch and that had nothing to do with auto running lights. They put the star scaner and after the help of 3 techs they found the enable running lights. It uses the high beams only and runs like 8 volts through them. I wish I would have know that before I added a running light below the front license plate. Thanks for the info on the lights and all. GO MAN GO 392

[DAB3234]

Ok I had an ordeal with trying to mod the knob to do the auto lights. As I was shaving the stop on the knob with a razorblade, I slipped and sliced my finger open. I saw it coming too, but I just kept on working and sure enough I cut myself. It bled like a b*tch. Had to go to an urgent care center...waited for an hour with my middel finger in the air (I cut that one) to get a tetanus shot, and some strips to hold a the wound closed. I am such a retard. I am what is referred to as shortbus special. Needless to say I will just order the autoswitch module. :redface:

[Pursuit]

just did the auto headlight mod but broke the medal clips in the process.... doh
oh well. i just hope the clips don't cost $30

[ATX Daytona]

Just took a dremel cut off wheel and trimmed a few milimeters fm the stop. Tks guys, sweet!!!!

[danaM]

I did the auto light mod manually. Auto lights are in the on postion (The A) Should I tunnr it to off? I thought you could leave the knob in the auto ligth postion all the time. Should the knob be n the off postion when you leave the car?

[jeffvb9]

I did the auto light mod manually. Auto lights are in the on postion (The A) Should I tunnr it to off? I thought you could leave the knob in the auto ligth postion all the time. Should the knob be n the off postion when you leave the car?


If you werent able to leave the switch in the "A" position wouldnt that defeat the purpose of having automatic headlights?

Yes you can leave them in the "A" position all the time.

[danaM]

If you werent able to leave the switch in the "A" position wouldnt that defeat the purpose of having automatic headlights?

Yes you can leave them in the "A" position all the time.
Groovy!
thx!

[HISH1]

So let me get this straight ,If I order the switch kit I should have the bubble on the dash, which I dont. Or I the manual mod and it will work without the bubble, yes? someone please respond.

[DAB3234]

No, you have to have the bubble on top of your dash for the mod to work. It is part of a convienience group that also includes the automatic dual zone temp controls for the cabin. This group comes standard on the daytonas and I believe the road and track package and srt8. Just getting the switch will not work. If you don't have the bubble and dual zone temp controls you cannot do this mod. I hope this helps.

[KennyB]

I used three butter knives, lol. I used two to pry the switch from the dashboard at the top. When the switch unclipped it shifted down a bit and I couldn't get the other butter knife in the bottom to pry the bottom clip off. I used the third knife on the right side closest to the steering wheel to pop it out. It then came off with no problem. I didn't have to disconnect the battery at all. I just unplugged the headlight wiring harness, plugged it to the new switch and popped it back in the dashboard. 3 minutes tops from the time I sat down in the car to the time I closed the door and drove off. I NEVER had to take the knob off at all.............

This forum is awesome! Just did the mod per above, installed new switch, and works perfectly!

[PaCharger]

welcome to the club...congrats on your first mod!!! It was mine too...I think...lmao

[djgietzen]

has any one had a chance to see how involved it is to install the bubble itself? assuming you could get the parts.

[R/TommyB]

you'd probably need more than just the bubble. You'd need all electronics and software code required to operate and collect data from the bubble.

[MidlifeCrisis]

I want to do this but I am the antithesis of "mechanically inclined." I'm too scared that I'd break something and wouldn't have headlights at all. :) Anyway, my previous car had auto headlights and I really miss that feature...it's weird for me to have to remember to turn on the headlights when it gets dark.

I don't understand why they would have the functionality for auto-headlights but then wouldn't make it available...bizarre.

[ravenkeeper98]

Post where you live, I'm sure there maybe someone that lives near you willing to do it for you.

[MidlifeCrisis]

Seems like Chrysler should do it free-of-charge since "Auto Headlamps" is one of the listed features in Convenience Package II, but it isn't true unless your car was built after a certain date. Unless they changed the description of CPII at some point?

[Indiana Hemi]

Seems like Chrysler should do it free-of-charge since "Auto Headlamps" is one of the listed features in Convenience Package II, but it isn't true unless your car was built after a certain date. Unless they changed the description of CPII at some point?
Actually, You got the Autoheadlight feature regardless of built date. You just don't have the switch. If you have that bubble in the middle of the dash towards the windshield than you do have the Autoheadlight feature.
You can either modify your current switch or order the Autoheadlight switch from MoparSupercenter. Talk to Jeff he will send it to you.

[R/TommyB]

I want to do this but I am the antithesis of "mechanically inclined." I'm too scared that I'd break something and wouldn't have headlights at all. :) Anyway, my previous car had auto headlights and I really miss that feature...it's weird for me to have to remember to turn on the headlights when it gets dark.

Well, actually, it is a risk-free mod. You can't break it so that you don't have headlights at all without being really rough on it. If you do break, scratch, ding, deface, damage, etc any part of it, then head over to your dealer and plop down $33 for a replacement switch with the auto-headlight feature in it!

[mattbob20]

I was upset at the dealer for not telling me about the lack of auto headlights when I bought the car, even though it had the right package. So now, I read this forum and in five minutes I have auto headlights. I cut off the tab like you guys said to do, for the short term fix, but I also ordered th part so it looks good, too.

Anyway, what I don't get is why they would do this? The only thing I can figure is somehow the supplier had a shortage of faceplates with the "A" on them. I mean, everything else is there. At the very least, the dealer should know how to modify or maybe DC couls supply them with a new knob.

Whatever. So I lived with it for the two months I had the car. Now, if I can only get the auto up/down windows that I was also promised.

Thanks everyone for the help on this simple, but silly to have to do on my own, mod.

[MidlifeCrisis]

I was upset at the dealer for not telling me about the lack of auto headlights when I bought the car, even though it had the right package.

Yeah, seems like false advertising to me.

Now, if I can only get the auto up/down windows that I was also promised.

I forgot about that one, but yeah, I was wondering what happened to mine too. That's crap.

[danaM]

I have the auto window but that is a feature I have never found useful in any car. Actually, it sort of bugs me in other cars. Seems to work as it should in the Charger.

[Maiingaan]

Get this, my dealer told me that it was illegal to install the module in the car. He said he couldn't even order it. So, I just shaved of a bit of tab on the nob. No problem, works great.

[Indiana Hemi]

Get this, my dealer told me that it was illegal to install the module in the car. He said he couldn't even order it. So, I just shaved of a bit of tab on the nob. No problem, works great.
What? Is your dealer a total idiot or what? It's a Dodge/Mopar part and it even comes standard now on all the later production Chargers so why the heck would it be illegal for him to install that module in your car? It's a 2 minute swap and only adds that little A on the left side. A function that is already there. Next your dealer will tell you that it is illegal to install any oil in your car since it didn't come with it. I think your dealer should get his head examined or maybe work for GM instead.

[PaCharger]

Get this, my dealer told me that it was illegal to install the module in the car. He said he couldn't even order it. So, I just shaved of a bit of tab on the nob. No problem, works great.

Worthy of letting your dealer know that you won't buy any of your next 12 cars there since he's such a flaming idiot and an obvious liar. Hope he isn't driving a highly illegal sable, explorer, celica, cadillac, etc...with those VERY dangerous auto headlights. What a freaking moron....darwinian award winner for today...
:lol:

[Starbase00]

Hmm, lets see, the things that were advertised as "available" accessories on the Charger but not actually installed:


* Auto Head Lights
* One Touch Up/Down Front Windows
* Heated Exterior Mirrors
* Rain Sensing Wipors (Not sure about this one)


We have the fix for the first one but not the second two and according to my dealer, the second two are actually only available on the Chrysler 300. They dont show up as available options in his book. Neither does the Auto Head Lamps, so go figure, lol!

[gciarami]

Great mod! Took me about 5 minutes to do (Might have taken less time if I didn't want to cleanly dremel away all excess plastic). Thanks for posting this!

One thing I'd like to add.. I had some trouble just plucking off the headlight knob. Until I got a small screwdriver and inserted into the notch on the knob opposite the indicator. My one note to add to these instructions would be not to use the small screwdriver as a lever. You'll only end up marring the surface of the switch assembly. Instead, insert the screwdriver into the notch and then just pull off the knob using the screwdriver. Not sure if this makes any sense to anyone but me.. but I figured I'd add my $0.02.

[Indiana Hemi]

Why take the knob off? I just popped out the whole switch and put the new one back in without taking the knob off.

[grinder]

I live in the Houston area and woudl love to get the auto headlight mod installed. I asked the dealer, even showed it to then on another Daytona and they insisted that it could not be done without programming and then it may not be possible at all.

Is there anyone in the Houston area that would consider helping me out with this mod that has already done it before? I really appreciate any responses.... maybe I am being too paranoid about the mod and should just give it a go....

[grinder]

I live in the Houston area and would love to get the auto headlight mod installed. I asked the dealer, even showed it to them on another Daytona and they insisted that it could not be done without programming and then it may not be possible at all.

Is there anyone in the Houston area that would consider helping me out with this mod that has already done it before? I really appreciate any responses.... maybe I am being too paranoid about the mod and should just give it a go....

[Indiana Hemi]

I live in the Houston area and would love to get the auto headlight mod installed. I asked the dealer, even showed it to them on another Daytona and they insisted that it could not be done without programming and then it may not be possible at all.

Is there anyone in the Houston area that would consider helping me out with this mod that has already done it before? I really appreciate any responses.... maybe I am being too paranoid about the mod and should just give it a go....
Your Dealer is an idiot. Just order the Autoheadlight switch from the MoparSuperCenter (Part Number 1-04602348AD) and be done with it.
Takes about 5 minutes to install. Just pop out the old switch and install the new. It is that simple. No reprogramming required.
Take a look at your dashboard. Do you ever wonder what that round Plastic bubble is in the center of the dash? Well, guess what it is your light sensor for the Autoheadlight switch. As long as you have the bubble you have the Autoheadlight switch capability. It really is that simple.
You can easily do it yourself.

[SilverRT]

Funny story, I took my car into the dealer for a quick free oil change and wash. When I did, the guy at the dealer mentions to me that I could have auto headlights. I told him I was aware (thanks to this forum).

He then proceeded to tell me that they could set me up with it for the low low cost of 200 bucks! I responded by choking on the water I was drinking. Cant believe they are selling a 30 dollar switch to people for that price!

[Indiana Hemi]

Funny story, I took my car into the dealer for a quick free oil change and wash. When I did, the guy at the dealer mentions to me that I could have auto headlights. I told him I was aware (thanks to this forum).

He then proceeded to tell me that they could set me up with it for the low low cost of 200 bucks! I responded by choking on the water I was drinking. Cant believe they are selling a 30 dollar switch to people for that price!
DCX needs the money since they are giving away their cars :laugh: :rolleyes:

[ChargerMadness84]

HELP! I just got my switch today and installed it like 5 min ago. I covered up the light sensor but that lights still do not come up automatically. Where could I have gone wrong??

[PaCharger]

hmmmm, you put the clips in the back right?

[Mikey0o0o]

how long did u cover it for .. it take about 10 seconds to turn on

[ChargerMadness84]

I'm not sure what I did wrong but after a couple days of it not working I just pulled it out and reinstalled it and it worked. Thanks for the reply.

[ronaldrwl]

Ok, I'm the biggest retard, 20 minutes and it wasn't pretty. Mine won't come off. Taking the knob off didn't help me?

[qytenyce]

Ok, I don't know crap about cars, but I used the butter knife trick, two on the top and one the right side, to pry it out and it took less then 30 seconds. You don't have to fiddle with trying to remove the knob, although it may work for others, i didn't even have to try that route! Just look at where the clips are on the new one and put the knives where each one is and on the right, should pop out with a little pressure, but nothing damaging.

[ZergTheBear]

Got the knob off with no problem, cut a section off of it, and back on with no problems! First mod, thanks for the great tips!

[TorRed]

OK, since I'm a noob, I gotta ask... if the wiring and everything is already there, why doesn't the car come with the Auto switch from the factory?

[Bolicious]

Ha! Great find. I have to do this now as I have been missing the function from my last car and I have the light sensor on my dash.

[Mooney]

Okay...really easy.

I got the switch for $29.28 from MoparSuperCenter.com.
Came in 3 days.

Part number 4602348 - AD Switch HE 8053059.

This is the whole light assembly. Switch and panel.

Easy step by steps...

1. Take existing knob off.
2. Using 2 flat headed screwdrivers, take 1 into the slot where the knob ran, pressing up into the unit, pry the TOP of the panel away from the dash. (doesn't require much movement).
3. There are two metal tabs on top, press one down, till it releases, then the next.
4. Use a tad bit of force to pull forward, using the bottom, much like a hinge, this will release the 3rd clip on the bottom.
5. Take wire module off
6. Clip wire onto new unit
7. pRess into dash, test, smile, drink a beer

Total install time...including opening box...about 2mins total.

Good luck.

Doug

I saw this it looks way nice but how can I tell if this will work in my charger I do not have dual climate control? I bought the charger R/T

[R/T Hemi Nut]

I saw this it looks way nice but how can I tell if this will work in my charger I do not have dual climate control? I bought the charger R/T

If you don't have the dash sensor up by the windshield, it will not work.

[MrBorkis]

im so confused, my knob looks exactly like that... but its stock

[OddrodRT]

That switch doesnt come with the convenience group II? I honestly think it should have and I'd check with your dealers. I have group I and I have no sensor, just a circle in the middle but i think group II has automatic lights in the specs and something is wrong.

[MidlifeCrisis]

I could be wrong, but I think more recently built Chargers already have the auto-headlight switch. Ones built earlier don't. I have no idea why they would build cars with auto-headlight functionality but not put in a switch to allow you to use it, but apparently that's what they did.

It' like the auto-up windows. The specs say my car should have it, but it doesn't. That's because they changed the specs after my car was built.

[R/T Hemi Nut]

I found that using a credit card for removing the switch works great.
You can pull out on the knob just enough to expose the two metal retainer tabs on the top, and then use a credit card to depress them both at once.
Then just rock foreward and work the bottom tab loose, and it's out.
Little chance of making a tool mark in the surrounding plastic this way.

[Coreyviper]

My daytona has the bubble thing on the dash. So does that mean I have the auto thing already installed?

[Humey]

no, the bubble means you can install the auto switch. Without the bubble, adding the swtich or modifying the current switch wont do anything

[STLMARINE]

Does this mod work for the Charger SXT, because I want it to be my first modification

[STLMARINE]

And where is this bubble located????

[MidlifeCrisis]

And where is this bubble located????

Right in the front middle where the dash and windshield meet. It's really obvious; if you have it, you can't miss it. I don't know if this mod applies to the SXT but I would guess that it does?

[choder]

Just did this on my R/T with a very small flat head screwdriver and a fresh razor blade.

The knob came off easily with the screwdriver slotted under it, directly opposite the white indicator line. No prying was nessesscary, it simply popped right off.

I then began shaving bits of plastic from the back of the knob. It took about half a centimeter in three attempts, but the third one worked perfectly.

Thanks for the kickass mod guys! :D

[Hemiman_CT]

I like the credit card approach. Nice touch!

[FloridaKeys]

2006 Charger SE Built on 03/2006.

My Charger has a circular protrusion on the middle of the dash near the windscreen, about an inch in diameter; Is this the 'bubble' described in this thread?

I don't have the convenience group or the dual zone A/C; the car has an electrically adjustable driver seat and power adjustable pedal heights.

Will the auto headlight mod work in this car? Opinions appreciated before I
order the switch.

Thanks in advance.

[rbaroncpd]

Hey Silver RT and Indiana Hemi,

Where did you guy's get the awsome HEMI Charger graphic?

Does it come in black?

If you have it in black could you please send it to me and if not where can I go to get it.

Thanks,

Rich

[georgiyp]

I just ordered mine today. Did anybody was given a hard time by a dealership for doing this mod? I want to make shure that it will not void my warranty. I am afraid that if something else goes wrong that they will refused to cover it and will say that switch caused it.

[Crow]

The auto HL switch is a direct replacement. Plug it in and don't worry about it.

[Redsox5810]

Can that sensor bubble be easily installed? I would imagine the wiring is there, just need to knock out the pop out. Also, I read that all cars are set up with day time running lights, that you just have to have the computer re-programmed

[RobbsRamSST]

I installed my auto headlight switch tonight. It was a snap.

[HemiChemi]

Can that sensor bubble be easily installed? I would imagine the wiring is there, just need to knock out the pop out. Also, I read that all cars are set up with day time running lights, that you just have to have the computer re-programmedDon't remember hearing of anyone adding the sensor...

Yes DRLs can be enabled by your dealer with his StarScan...

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=20512

[rbaroncpd]

Hi All,

As a relatively new Dodge Charger Modifier I am sometimes lost in the lingo used here. I, and I hope others, would really benefit if someone could post a er, post explaining some of the terms used here.

For example:

RockBlocker
Silver Stars
Billet Door Locks
Billet Head Rest Spacers
Brylcreem Exhaust
Visor Decals (where to get them)

Just to name a few. I did not want to start a new thread because, well, just because.

It is really new to some of us and maybe if someone could answer the above and where to get some of this stuff I know I wood appreciate it.

Thanks,
Rich

[MidlifeCrisis]

Actually, I think a "modding for dummies" thread would be extremely valuable. I mean, there are questions that come up all the time such as "Which performance exhaust is best?" It would be nice to actually have some central reference for all that stuff.

[HemiChemi]

RockBlocker = protective (optionally colored) plastic film for headlight/taillight assemblies

Silver Stars = Sylvania hi-output headlight/foglight bulbs

Billet Door Locks = fancy, machined metal doorlock knobs

Billet Head Rest Spacers = fancy, machined things for your headrest posts

Brylcreem Exhaust = remove the muffler (replace with just pipes), leave the resonators

Visor Decals (where to get them) = ebay

[rbaroncpd]

HemiChemi,

Thanks for the breakdown. I searched for the Visor Decals but I was not successful. Maybe I am using the wrong search terms. Oh well.

Thanks again,
Rich

[HemiChemi]

http://www.streamlinedesign.com/visordisguiser.html

[Crow]

You know, I put those visor decals on, and anyone who gets into the car says, hey those are nice. Come from the factory like this? LOL

[Texas_HEMI]

Mod Installed. Just fixed the knob for now, but I think I will order the actual part this week. Thanks everyone

[ksw870]

i lost one of the metal clips(actually its probablly in my dash somewhere, but its been about 8 months since ive done this and it has never fell out), so does the new one come with the metal clips?

[snookerdude]

This is a neat site. I've got a Charger R/T with 6k miles on it and really like it. Learned a bunch of neat tricks today. If you can do without the "A" there is even an easier way. Instead of Dremeling off the tab on the switch assembly, just firmly pull the round switch knob off. Now reach in and turn the switch stalk back counterclockwise one position (you now have activated the "auto light" feature). I did this at 60 mph. In order get the round knob back on fully, you take a straight edge razor blade and trim the knob backing just a small knotch (parked now). This takes about 30 seconds and 5 or 6 nibbles with the razor blade. You can test fit to make sure the knob fully depresses. This is basically making room for the plastic knotch you would otherwise be trimming off. On some Ford vehicles the only difference in the "autolight" feature is the round knob itself.

Jeff


So, I just did this (with my car parked in the garage for safety) and I must say that this is ridiculously easy. Why the heck didn't Dodge just make this part of the convenience package to begin with? Dang!

Removed knob (~25 seconds) switched one notch to the left anf started vehicle with garage lights off and ... we have light (auto that is). Whipped out the Dremmel (why, power...Arr arr arr) and shaved about an 1/8" of plastic from the stopper and repleced (about 2 minutes cause it took 2 tries to shave enough) and then done!!! Great! Thanks to those of you who thought this was worth looking into. :grin:

[ManGO]

Just did the free mod @ 3am.
Works perfectly!

THANKS!

[pdubois64]

Taken from Dodge's website today:

Road and Track Performance Group


18 x 7.5-in Aluminum Wheels
Automatic Headlamps
Seats - Heated Front
High Speed Engine Controller
Load Levelling and Height Control
P235/55R18 BSW All Season Performance Tires
Performance Seats with Preferred Suede®
Performance Steering
Performance Suspension
Seats - Power Front, Driver/Passenger
One-Touch Power Front Windows with Express Up/Down

My car was built in Nov/05 and does not have the switch. I have e-mailed a couple of people I know at DC about this. Want to know why I should have to pay $40 for a switch on a car I paid $40K for...Personally I don't care if I have them as I drive with my lights on always day or night..it's just the principal of getting what you pay for.

[gomango2860]

Taken from Dodge's website today:

Road and Track Performance Group


18 x 7.5-in Aluminum Wheels
Automatic Headlamps
Seats - Heated Front
High Speed Engine Controller
Load Levelling and Height Control
P235/55R18 BSW All Season Performance Tires
Performance Seats with Preferred Suede®
Performance Steering
Performance Suspension
Seats - Power Front, Driver/Passenger
One-Touch Power Front Windows with Express Up/Down

My car was built in Nov/05 and does not have the switch. I have e-mailed a couple of people I know at DC about this. Want to know why I should have to pay $40 for a switch on a car I paid $40K for...Personally I don't care if I have them as I drive with my lights on always day or night..it's just the principal of getting what you pay for.


The auto headlamp switch was a change they made sometime late in 05. My Daytona was made in September 05 and does not have it. I would be interested in hearing if you get anyplace with DCX as I've thought about calling and b*tching about this as well. I'm prepaired to dremel the stop off and make my switch work but it sure would be sweet if DCX would send me a new one for free! :grin:

[pdubois64]

I'll let you know if I hear anything back from them...not holding my breath:sick:

[MidlifeCrisis]

My car was built in Nov/05 and does not have the switch. I have e-mailed a couple of people I know at DC about this. Want to know why I should have to pay $40 for a switch on a car I paid $40K for...Personally I don't care if I have them as I drive with my lights on always day or night..it's just the principal of getting what you pay for.

I felt the same as you, but I did some digging and learned that they changed the specs mid-year. My R/T was also built in November 05 and it doesn't have the switch either. But I have the switch coming in the mail now.

If I remember correctly, another change they made mid-year was auto up/down for both front windows. Mine only has auto down for the driver window. That also infuriated me for a while, because I knew it was in the features list but didn't realize the features list changed after my car was built. When I bought the car I didn't look at those details on the window sticker because I didn't realize that the specs could change mid-year.

I'm still not happy that my car didn't have those features, but I've learned to live with it. I figure it might be a goof-up since this is a first year model...they fixed their mistakes at some point in the middle, and my car was just built before the fixes.

[pdubois64]

I felt the same as you, but I did some digging and learned that they changed the specs mid-year. My R/T was also built in November 05 and it doesn't have the switch either. But I have the switch coming in the mail now.

If I remember correctly, another change they made mid-year was auto up/down for both front windows. Mine only has auto down for the driver window. That also infuriated me for a while, because I knew it was in the features list but didn't realize the features list changed after my car was built. When I bought the car I didn't look at those details on the window sticker because I didn't realize that the specs could change mid-year.

I'm still not happy that my car didn't have those features, but I've learned to live with it. I figure it might be a goof-up since this is a first year model...they fixed their mistakes at some point in the middle, and my car was just built before the fixes.

I looked at the sticker and it is not listed there so that probably has the final say....just wish they wouldn't list it on the website, unless cars built now do have it....same thing with the windows.

[MidlifeCrisis]

I looked at the sticker and it is not listed there so that probably has the final say....just wish they wouldn't list it on the website, unless cars built now do have it....same thing with the windows.

Cars built now DO have it, that's why it's on the website. Unfortunately, our cars were built before the change but we didn't buy them until after the change, so the website specs are more recent than what applies to our cars. :(

[BADXMPL]

i did this mod last week and it works great. the onlt thing was that the headlights didnt come on with the wipers so being that i work for the dealership i had a tech hook up the star scan to the car and turn on that feature now it works really good.

[gomango2860]

i did this mod last week and it works great. the onlt thing was that the headlights didnt come on with the wipers so being that i work for the dealership i had a tech hook up the star scan to the car and turn on that feature now it works really good.

So they not only come on when it gets dark but when you turn the wipers on?? Does that also have a delay so they don't come on when you use your washer or if you give one quick wipe?

[Bogey70]

It took me longer to get the darn knob off then if took for me to dremel the little thingy off. I was worried about breaking something. Thanks for the free mod.

[mjl1960]

Took the 5 minutes to remove a 1/4 inch from the stop on my knob tonight. Works like a champ. Gonna put that extra $30 towards my exhaust.

Wife asked what I was doing, told her "installing" auto activating headlights. She then asked if I knew what I was doing. Told her, "Hell no. I always screw up $40k cars at night in my driveway." After she was done laughing, I showed her the setup.

Is your wife my g/f? Sounds just like her...lol!! Told her next time find an electrical engineer or an auto mechanic to date...

[pdubois64]

Cars built now DO have it, that's why it's on the website. Unfortunately, our cars were built before the change but we didn't buy them until after the change, so the website specs are more recent than what applies to our cars. :(

Ya DC got back to me and that indeed is the case.

[MidlifeCrisis]

I did this mod last night, and it kicked my butt! :) I was expecting it to take just a couple minutes, but I ended up spending at least 25 minutes trying to get the old switch out. I was using butter knives, and it was hard to get them on top of the tabs so I could push down...when I did get them in place, they would slip off. Eventually I got the knob off and thought that might make it easier, but it didn't.

Then I somehow broke one of the tabs clean off the switch...the entire metal piece fell through the bottom of the dash to the floorboard. That made it easier 'cause I only had one top tab to deal with. I eventually got that unhooked, and after some pulling the whole thing popped out. From that point it was a trivial task. But getting that switch out was harder than I was expecting! :)

[dybaxter]

Just installed today, Instructions above were right on, pretty easy mod. Works just fine. At last I can stop the wife telling me her car is more high tech. LOL.

[Jaedee33]

is this only for RT models?

[Concept]

Putting this mod on my christmas list.

[pdubois64]

is this only for RT models?

You have to have the dual zone climate control and the "bubble" eye thing in the middle of the dash near the windshield.

[drivingintowallz]

Ok, I know somwhere in here somebody bought the switch with the "A" on it for like $30 and I think a link to where they got it from. Could someone please repost that link for me? If not, I must have imagined the whole thing.....I hate working mids.

[RitzRT]

Ok, I know somwhere in here somebody bought the switch with the "A" on it for like $30 and I think a link to where they got it from. Could someone please repost that link for me? If not, I must have imagined the whole thing.....I hate working mids.

http://www.moparsupercenter.com

Part #: 4602348AD

$32.10 + shipping

Cheers,

[geocha]

Ok, new member, first Mod worked no problems at all.

Have a 2006 Charger r/t. (not with r/t)

Got to work and pulled the knob off, the entire piece came out. Don't worry too much about the clips, i used a key from the charger and 2 came off and simply landed on the floor after bouncing around the dash a bit.

If you pull the knob out a bit but still leave it attached you will see how you can turn it to the left and it goes further then before.

If you look closely you see what is stopping it from moving normally.

I noched out about a 1/4 inch from part stopping movement using a trusty swiss army knife.

Works great, if I trade it in I'll get some rub on letters and put an A on dash, other then that completly happy, works like a charm.

Amazing they keep this out, i was going through the options list and got pissed that a 35k car doesn't have auto lights while my other cars do.

Problem solved,

this board rocks.

gmoney

[GRR8Charger]

I'm new to the forum, saw this thread and just finished this mod - took all of five minutes. Thanks! I've always wondered why the car didn't have this when it was listed as included for the group and the sensor was on the dash.

MODS: Many Audio Upgrades, Free No ESP, Free Auto Headlights, Built-In Garage Door Opener (My own mod), Demoulding soon, Replacement Head-Unit w/Nav System (Winter Project)

GRR8Charger
Go Man-Go 1640 of 4000
Western PA.

[optimus124]

Did the dremel way. Cleanup was easy and cost a lot less

[Manitoba_RT]

Did I get sent the wrong part? P68019789AB

This auto headlight switch assembly doesn't have the separate square button for turning the fog lamps on and off. You actually push the round knob in to activate and de-activate the fog lamps.

Does anybody else have this setup, and is it going to work?

[Manitoba_RT]

Well, it works! Just finished the install and everything is functioning perfectly -- even the fog lamps.

I guess this is the new style, without the separate fog lamp button??


http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1839/dscf0253pp2.jpg

[Manitoba_RT]

Bueller???

[MidlifeCrisis]

I've never seen that style of switch before; is that what they're using on the 2007 models?

[JVracer04]

Okay...really easy.

I got the switch for $29.28 from MoparSuperCenter.com.
Came in 3 days.

Part number 4602348 - AD Switch HE 8053059.

This is the whole light assembly. Switch and panel.

Easy step by steps...

1. Take existing knob off.
2. Using 2 flat headed screwdrivers, take 1 into the slot where the knob ran, pressing up into the unit, pry the TOP of the panel away from the dash. (doesn't require much movement).
3. There are two metal tabs on top, press one down, till it releases, then the next.
4. Use a tad bit of force to pull forward, using the bottom, much like a hinge, this will release the 3rd clip on the bottom.
5. Take wire module off
6. Clip wire onto new unit
7. pRess into dash, test, smile, drink a beer

Total install time...including opening box...about 2mins total.

Good luck.

Doug

did u have to add the light sensor on the dash? or was urs already there?

[JVracer04]

also ...anyone doing this mod

can i have your old headlight switch with the fog light button under the dial?

[prodart440]

I did the mod tonight. My wife loves it (her car). I trimmed the switch, instead of the knob.

Aaron

[Stormblast]

Does this work on all cars?
i have a SE 2007 3.5 ...

what do you mean by it works with people who has the bubble on the dash?

thanks :)

[Preds]

I was just on moparsupercenter and could not find the switch. Any ideas? I was trying to order one for a friend.

[paul9sec]

Thanks for the auto headlight swicht mod. I just cut the stoper with a razor blade and work great.

[flyer08]

does this work with the SE Plus?

[killerbee88]

Does anyone know this works on SE plus ????

[OtrFLOYD]

I think it should work as long as you have the light sensor on the top of the dash.

[blindpig]

I took the dremel approach and was finished in about 10 minutes. Thanks!

[Yamahog]

I just stumbled upon this thread and I'm going to have a look at my daughters 08 SXT when she comes home. From what I have read if she has the bubble (sensor) on the dash than the switch "should" be able to be modified by taking off the knob and removing the tab preventing the switch from going into the auto position.

If I am wrong can someone chime in? Thanks...